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Purplevioletsherbert · 11/04/2024 22:57

Two new friends, have known each other a few months and have seen each other socially a couple of times. Both going through a bit of a tricky time.

Friend A has called Friend B a couple of times, B hasn’t answered but usually texts within a few minutes to check in and see if A is ok. After the last time this happened yesterday, B made a comment about not really being a phone call kind of person.

This evening B text A asking how they are and said “I’m gunna call in five mins” to give them a heads up rather than calling out of the blue.

B sent this response:

“Hiya, currently in the middle of settling DC into bed, and pretty exhausted myself from work. As I said the other day I really don't do phone calls, I find even when it's my close family they cause me lots of stress. How are you doing?xx”

Would you find this response rude? Is B just brushing off A?

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daisychain01 · 13/04/2024 04:28

Lovetotravel123 · 12/04/2024 15:47

I hate talking on the phone but really like it when people text me. Don’t take it personally and keep going with the friendship.

I'vedragged myself kicking and screaming into the 18th century got into WhatsApp lately, it's so versatile being able to send photos and updates, whereas texts now seem a bit dull by comparison. I don't do Facebook, Insta etc it sends my head into a spin, I don't need 700 friends Grin but WhatsApp is the best of all worlds.

And I get stupidly excited when I open my phone to see a WhatsApp notification squeeee!

Backtoblack1 · 13/04/2024 04:14

I am person B! I really don’t like phone calls, even from family. I will happily text or voice note all night but I dread the phone ringing! I had to explain this to a new friend also who I would see all day at work and who would ring me in the evenings or weekends for a chat. It’s too much for me so I sympathise with OP x

pilates · 13/04/2024 04:07

No not rude and a friend would understand this.

nothingsforgotten · 13/04/2024 04:00

Pottedpalm · 11/04/2024 23:14

It seems to be a thing, now, that people are incapable of having a phone conversation. Very few on Mumsnet answer the door either, and many seem to have no contact with their neighbours. Makes me wonder where we are heading with social interactions.

I was just thinking the same. What on earth has gone wrong with people that they are incapable of having a phone conversation? - and the number of posters who seem to think it's fine is staggering. I'm sure it's a MN thing and I'm beginning to think I really don't belong here but should stay in the real world where people answer the door and talk on the phone. How can talking to someone on the phone be hard work?

StockpotSoup · 13/04/2024 01:40

What about friend A's needs and/or preferences?

She can exercise her preference by choosing a different friend. OP has made her feelings clear.

decionsdecisions62 · 13/04/2024 01:15

This is me and my brother. He insists on ringing and talking and I find it draining. He could make the arrangement in two texts but he wants to discuss the arrangements in a phone call every time. 😡

Flowersfield · 13/04/2024 01:07

I feel you B...im B too!

EnglishBluebell · 13/04/2024 00:13

What about friend A's needs and/or preferences? I get it if friend A is draining and chats for ages, regularly etc. In that case then it's different but OP didn't say that was the case. OP said that the issue is with her (Friend B) rather than with friend A.

So what if Friend A really needs a friend right now? Friendships are a two way street. No, we don't have^^ to go out of our way for anyone but just sometimes, a decent friend goes a little out of their comfort zone as it makes a huuge difference to a friend who needs a chat.
Like I said, not frequently but this sounds like it was just one chat which friend A attempted to have on two separate occasions, rather than wanting to chat two days in a row

Lavender14 · 13/04/2024 00:09

OneTC · 11/04/2024 23:13

Someone giving you a five minute "heads up" for something you've explained you don't want to do is the rude bit

^this.

I hate phone calls, especially long surprise ones at ds bedtime or afterwards when I just want to sit on the sofa for an hour with dh. I think you've been honest about your boundaries and the other person needs to respect it.

EnglishBluebell · 13/04/2024 00:04

Person B obviously doesn't think much of person A

EnglishBluebell · 13/04/2024 00:03

Yeah that's a brush off. Why on earth^^ would talking to friends or family on the phone cause stress? I struggle with anxiety making calls to companies etc but not my bloody friends or family. Self-absorbed, sorry

aSpanielintheworks · 12/04/2024 22:29

I love my closest friend to bits but honestly my heart sinks when my phone rings, because it always stops me from what I'm doing or worse, when I have a precious few minutes to relax. Phone calls take a lot of mental energy for me, I would far far rather text.

SweetFemaleAttitude · 12/04/2024 22:26

I talk to horrible people on the phone for the majority of the day. The last thing I want when I get in is to chat one the phone.

I find it awkward and also I don't enjoy it.

Messaging is much better for me.

Iwantamarshmallowman · 12/04/2024 22:22

A needs to bugger off. I'd have blocked her by now. I bet she'll start sending WhatsApp voice messages next.

hopscotcher · 12/04/2024 21:48

No, I think that's B being honest, and A needs to get the message.

literalviolence · 12/04/2024 21:44

PassingStranger · 12/04/2024 21:37

Exactly. Speaking on the phone is much better than pressing buttons. You get to hear the voice and the tone.
Texting is a cop out.

I don't think it's a cop out but I think it's a much more superficial interaction. Personally I don't value texting other than for specific pieces of info ("I'm running late, be there in 10", "Let meet the costa by the bus station at 11" kind of thing). It's pants for anything more deep, heart to heart, complicated - the kind of things which allow people to really connect and bond.

PassingStranger · 12/04/2024 21:37

Pottedpalm · 11/04/2024 23:14

It seems to be a thing, now, that people are incapable of having a phone conversation. Very few on Mumsnet answer the door either, and many seem to have no contact with their neighbours. Makes me wonder where we are heading with social interactions.

Exactly. Speaking on the phone is much better than pressing buttons. You get to hear the voice and the tone.
Texting is a cop out.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 12/04/2024 21:25

A is very rude. B is not rude at all.

Thingthattellstime · 12/04/2024 17:55

I don’t think you were rude, you’ve told her before that you don’t like doing calls and the last message was polite but explained again.

Alicewinn · 12/04/2024 17:52

No I don't think it's rude, it's clear and compassionate. Nobody is obliged to pick up a ringing phone. I'd appreciate the clarity if I got that and I'd also completely understand it. I think it uses a different part of your brain, texting can be reflective, phone calls less so

OriginalUsername2 · 12/04/2024 17:45

I’ve felt like you during very stressful times. I really get it. Sometimes I can’t even construct a text message.

Theres a lot to get done in an evening for a regular working person without caring responsibilities so I don’t really get how people in this day and age still expect to be able to phone someone on a whim for a chat! I would never assume anyone is just lazing around ready to take my phone call.

StockpotSoup · 12/04/2024 17:32

Well surely that’s up to them? No one owes anyone a conversation.

Pottedpalm · 12/04/2024 17:24

@StockpotSoup
Thanks for the mini lecture on communication. My point was that many people now ‘set boundaries” and simply don’t speak or hold a conversation.

literalviolence · 12/04/2024 16:32

Purplevioletsherbert · 12/04/2024 16:28

I get this. But I met her in December, have seen her at the group where we met about five times since and have seen her socially twice, with another plan in the works. So I’m not just seeing her once a year and then just texts in between.

And for what it’s worth, I probably only see my best friend once a year (long distance) and keep up our friendship of 18 years over text. So 🤷‍♀️

I think different things just work for different people. It would not work for me to text someone and only properly connect once a year but if that works for both you and your best friend then clearly there's nothing wrong with that. It sounds like, even if A is someone who would find that a bit superficial and disconnected, that's not the only way you're connecting anyway. Either way she needs to accept that you don't want to talk on the phone and decide whether she wants to continue the friendship or not. She should not pressurise you to do something which does not work for you. You're allowed your own boundaries.

Purplevioletsherbert · 12/04/2024 16:28

literalviolence · 12/04/2024 16:16

It's not rude but unless you speak to someone regularly I'm not sure it's much of a friendship. If you see each other in person, all good, if it's just texts and meeting once a year, then I personally would bow out of the friendship because you can't have much depth of conversation in a text exchange - I may be showing my age there though!

I get this. But I met her in December, have seen her at the group where we met about five times since and have seen her socially twice, with another plan in the works. So I’m not just seeing her once a year and then just texts in between.

And for what it’s worth, I probably only see my best friend once a year (long distance) and keep up our friendship of 18 years over text. So 🤷‍♀️

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