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This can't be normal!!!!!??

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Thempolsoltch · 11/04/2024 21:19

I'm an only child and got married 10 months ago. I just turned 30. My husband and I originally planned to ttc straight away, but nothing was happening and around 4 months into the marriage DH said he wanted to wait a little longer for financial reasons. We stopped ttc for 3 months then decided not to waste time and started ttc again.

So my mum and I aren't close and we have had a weird relationship since I was a teen. Shortly after we got married, she said she wanted to know 'where she stood' in terms of my plans to have a family. I told her, at the time, that we were planning to ttc. I didn't tell her when we decided to put a pause button on it as it just seemed a bit tmi but may have mentioned some things that hinted at it. I didn't tell her that we had started ttc again either. I've kept everything vague.

Anyway to add another level of complications, an amazing job opportunity came up on the other side of the country. My current contract is coming to an end so it seemed sensible to look elsewhere. As ttc was up in the air/nothing happening, I decided to go for the new job. I didn't want life to pass me by while ttc and so decided to just keep going with career and baby plans until something happened and deal with it as and when. I got the job and we are moving next month.

My mum has taken that to mean that we've sropped ttc so I can pursue my career and when i told her that 'nothing is happening (ie not getting pregnant)' she snapped at me that 'of course nothing is happening if youre preventing a pregnancy'. I didn't put her straight as it just felt too invasive and i felt shocked at what she said and how annoyed she had seemed. She went to bed in the middle of the afternoon and stayed there all night.

She has basically gone really cold and funny ever since, and has been acting like I've done something wrong, being very quiet and stand offish. I didn't want an argument and assumed I was imagining things so didn't say anything. She gets very defensive so I have to choose my words carefully.

Anyway, recently my dad told me that my cousin who I hardly know but got married a few months before me, was pregnant with her first. He said I couldn't tell mum as it would upset her too much, as I wasn't pregnant yet. He said she is really down about it. I couldn't believe what I was hearing but it all adds up. I think my mum is actually angry with me and really upset for what she thinks is me trying not to get pregnant.

This surely isn't normal? I just don't want to get into my fertility etc with her and I also think its just none of her business. Does she have a right to know the ins and outs of our family planning decisions? Is it courtesy to let potential grandparents know what your intentions are? I feel like she is overstepping by expecting this but not sure if maybe I am being unfair and I shouldn't keep her in limbo? I feel like I'll tell her when I'm ready but feel really reluctant to open up to her about anything at the minute.

This probably makes no sense but I'm very tired so thank you if you got this far!

OP posts:
RoundWeGoAgain2 · 13/04/2024 21:06

I'm really sorry you are dealing with this. It sounds hard.

Tbh, I think you would be as well to take the job and move far away, and that will give your DM the clarity that she needs. She can then do what she needs to do to get her head straight. Good luck.

FWIW, I am a mother of a very much loved only child. One downside of being a Mum to an only child is that the parents a lot of the time have to act as playmate, sibling and friend as well as parent. That means that they have to work very very hard and walk a number of extremely fine lines. I could well imagine they they could end up a bit knackered and failing to separate at the end of it. I think that unhooking your Mum for a bit and leaving her to gently steam could be a good idea.

AllyArty · 13/04/2024 21:03

My MIL phoned me twice a week for 2years + and the first thing she would say in a loud voice was ‘any news’ which really meant ‘are you pregnant yet’? I was over 30 with a good job but I got loads of vague remarks about this person (that I never met) has had a baby girl and that person (that I was introduced once to at a wedding) had a premature baby boy. She was relentless. So I feel your pain and I’m sorry but your mother is only thinking about herself and needs to cop herself on. If you don’t have a close relationship with her then you would think that now is the time for her to build bridges. Try to ignore her behaviour.

Pumpkinseeds22 · 13/04/2024 21:00

She sounds rather controlling. This is why she'd be a difficult grandma. Clear boundaries are needed.

BestDIL · 13/04/2024 20:59

What a nightmare for you. She has no right to any information. Don’t tell her anything you don’t want to.

Julimia · 13/04/2024 20:57

Its got absolutely nithing to do with her. I n future tell her nothing. She needs to live her own life not yours. Mum to 2x 30years old plus children here.

Thempolsoltch · 13/04/2024 20:56

I've had a very busy day so haven't had a chance to reply as individually as I would have liked. I feel like this has been so therapeutic and helpful. Thank you to everyone for all of the support! It has been so helpful. Thank you.

OP posts:
DriftingDora · 13/04/2024 20:54

NeedSomeHeadspace · 13/04/2024 18:55

Is she a bit lonely and desperate to get closer and feel better connected to you? Obviously being a grandmother would be an ideal opportunity for her.

Then she needs to get a life of her own, not interfere with her daughter's life. Living your life vicariously through your children and imposing your ideas on them is not loving, it's smothering.

That is not what a good parent does.

katseyes7 · 13/04/2024 20:46

This is way too intrusive, even from a close family member.
I'd been married a couple of years when l met an acquaintance in the street.
Her first words were "No family YET?"
I was so taken aback, l just said no. If she hadn't caught me on the back foot, l'd have replied with something like "No, not yet, Christine. We've been at it like rabbits for months, but no joy so far."
For all she knew l could have been desperate to get pregnant, but hadn't, or we could have been having problems, and was extremely sensitive and upset about what she said.

It's beyond crass and unbelievably rude. No one's business but yours.

Laurmolonlabe · 13/04/2024 20:42

Obviously it's none of her business (or your Dad's), I don't really understand why she feels so invested, is she planning to be full time childcare?

It doesn't matter if you have battalions of cousins having babies it's still none of their business.
Your relationship with your Mum obviously means it would be best to tell her as little as possible.
Good luck with the career move- Your baby plans will happen on their own schedule, stop worrying and that will help.

gavisconismyfriend · 13/04/2024 20:41

Coming out of the FOG is really hard, so go easy on yourself as you process things. It is great that you have a loving and supportive DH. The job opportunity sounds great too and moving further away from your parents could be seen as a bonus in many many ways. If/when you do have children, the last thing you need is your mum on the doorstep criticising your parenting! Getting married puts a distance between you and her, gives her less power. Likewise you moving away. She won’t like that and will layer on the guilt. Do whatever you can to resist it - agree boundaries with your DH, get some therapy (can’t tell you how incredibly helpful I’ve found it), post on MN for support - these early stages of realisation are the hardest both for you and for her, so expect her to keep pushing back hard for a while. Stand firm OP!

TeaGinandFags · 13/04/2024 20:32

In my experience this is perfectly normal.

Unfortunately it's also totally unacceptable behaviour.

Congratulations on your new flash job and well done for moving well away ftom her. She's going to need to be kept on a short leash, that one.

Whatever you decide and whatever happens your fertility is none of her beeswax.

Epidote · 13/04/2024 20:24

You are right, it is not normal.

AngryBookworm · 13/04/2024 20:19

Absolutely baffling behaviour. Not normal and a worrying overidentification in that she seems to think this situation is about her. It sounds like the move will be really good for you to get some distance from her. I'd refuse to give her any information about ttc and when/if you do get pregnant I'd be very vague, because it sounds like she has a real issue with boundaries and should there be any complications she'd be a nightmare (I imagine a miscarriage would also be about her). Really feeling for you OP, and your dad having to tiptoe around it. She's allowed to feel what she feels, but it's not OK that she's made it a problem for you and others.

Oldtigernidster · 13/04/2024 20:11

It’s absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with her and she has no business asking you. Sounds like she would be a very meddling GM if you did have a child. You need to be firm with her from now on.

Pantaloons99 · 13/04/2024 20:02

BlessedKali · 11/04/2024 22:34

She sounds narcisisstic. Look up narcisisstic mothers.

Exactly my thoughts. You often don't realise how messed up a relationship is when you're in this dynamic. At some point you will see it with absolute clarity. She is not treating you well with all this one bit!

ttcat37 · 13/04/2024 19:54

None of her business, tell her to pull herself together and stop being so fucking wet. Good job you’re moving to the other side of the country because she sounds like she’d be an absolute nightmare of an entitled grandparent. Run away!!!

Aydel · 13/04/2024 19:52

She sounds like my mother. Desperate for grandchildren. No interest in them once they arrived apart from showing photos and boasting about their achievements to her friends at the Over 60s Club.

Toptops · 13/04/2024 19:51

Good grief! She is not normal and none of this is any of her business!
It sounds like she has problems with boundaries, so if and when you have a baby, you'll need to anticipate how you want the relationship to go with your mum. And jump on any infractions straight away.
Btw, congrats on your new job! You'll do the right thing re mum when the time comes x

nopuppiesallowed · 13/04/2024 19:50

I'm a mum of 3 adult children. I love them to the moon and back and they are wonderful. Two are married and I would absolutely never have asked them of their plans to have children pr anything personal. It looks like our third adult child may decide to get married to her boyfriend soon, but I will never ask her about her plans unless she drops elephant sized hints that she'd like my input. It's up to her to tell us. One raises children to be independent adults. It's completely their decision to tell you what they want you to know.

SecondHandFurniture · 13/04/2024 19:44

Yeesh. No, not normal. My mum only found out we wanted kids when I told her I was 12 weeks and had had my first scan. I'd always said we wouldn't!

Despite DS being the only one on both sides there was no pressure.

PMAmostofthetime · 13/04/2024 19:40

I'm glad your moving I feel like she would be a nightmare if you did get pregnant and want to co trim everything and have the Abby on her terms.

Your business, your life tell her to butt out x

Delphiniumandlupins · 13/04/2024 19:36

Your mother needs to live her own life and let you live yours. She put far too much weight on how people might perceive your wedding and now, on how she will look as a grandmother. Instead of being proud of you and your life she is making an issue when things don't follow the plan in her head. I think you need to set boundaries, it's up to you whether you let her know those boundaries.

exaltedwombat · 13/04/2024 19:35

The poor woman’s ‘broody by proxy’. Not uncommon, I believe. Live through it.

Famfirst · 13/04/2024 19:34

Not normal, very petulant, self obsessed and controlling. Much like my mother but when I was expecting my 3rd she refused to speak to me are all. Loads of distance and give bland and minimum information. Strict boundaries or you'll find your baby becomes "her" baby.

GeeEss · 13/04/2024 19:32

Your mum sounds a “bit” controlling” and I think you may be a pleaser. I, too, am an only child and can resonate with your feelings. It’s hard, but you need to stick to your guns and don’t let emotions and sentiments creep in. Your mum should be proud of you and your choices, rather than everything being on her terms. Sorry, I don’t think your Dad helps matters either. So sorry, but you are 30, not 13. You and your husband need to do your own thing and hope your Mum sees this as a “no - win” for her. Only way to change her attitude. Good luck!