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To distance myself from this friend?

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GreenHome · 11/04/2024 18:23

Met friend A when we were both pregnant, now our DDs are 3.5.

Friend A has the habit to turn up on people’s house (mine and other friends’ house) unannounced or very little notice.

She feels very low when her DH is at work and she has to stay on her own with her DD. She is very extrovert and likes constant company. Even with her DD is with her PILs and her DH is at work, she can’t enjoy time on her own.

So yesterday mid morning, Friend A called to say she was just round the corner, could she pop in for a coffee and a quick playdate? I said yes.

She came in and as the girls settle and start to play, she sits on my sofa and thumbs through the coffee table books/magazines while I’m in the kitchen.

I then bring coffee, water and some biscuits and sit on the other sofa. We start to drink and I start chatting - the usual.
After a few minutes she asks if I can just ‘leave her alone so she can read the magazine she selected please?’
I’m weirded by that but I say sure, so I take my coffee to the kitchen and finish it there while tidying up and stuff. When I have nothing to do in the kitchen anymore, I go to my DD’s bedroom where the girls are playing and stay there.

Then I receive a text message from friend B inviting me for lunch at her house as she has some good news to share (she was ttc so I know what it means).

After about 45 minutes (from me leaving the sitting room to now), friend A comes to the bedroom and asks me what I’m planning to eat for lunch. I tell her that I’m going to friend B’s house for lunch and she asks if she can come too. I tell her to call friend B and ask. She tells me that I should call because I was the one invited. I said no, I don’t think this is how it is suppose to work.
She then decides to leave. She said she might call friend B soon.

When I get to friend B’s house, I ask her if friend A called. She didn’t. I explain she was at mine when I received the text and she knows about the lunch. Friend B knows it means she might turn up unannounced. But she doesn’t.

So I received a text from friend A saying that she hoped we had a good lunch and hope to be included next time.
She also said she might pop at mine again tomorrow, same time.

I just don’t have energy for this nonsense anymore. I get it that she needs constant company but her behaviour at mine yesterday turned me off this friendship, I need to create some distance.

AIBU?

How should I reply?

OP posts:
ArtyWren · 12/04/2024 09:36

I cannot believe what I just read! She was bossing you around in your own home, and dictating when she will be coming round and how long she will be staying? She made you leave your own living room!!

What is the dilemma? Tell her that her behaviour and expectations are rude and then block and ignore.

Dontbeme · 12/04/2024 09:16

She doesn't see You as a friend, she thinks of you as free childminding and free café. You need to end this now before you are doing all her school runs for her as you're bringing your child to school anyway and sure you might as well collect her kid and bring her back to yours after school for dinner too. Since you collected junior on a Friday she might as well have a sleepover and she's collect her Saturday lunchtime, maybe, but certainly on Sunday after dinner. Do you see where this is heading OP, run now and don't look back.

Redpaisley · 12/04/2024 08:34

GreenHome · 11/04/2024 19:16

We are both not British but we both been here a long time

She is from a Central Europe country.

I’m from South America - we tend to be very hospitable. Turning up unannounced is kinda normal where I live, I think people still have the habit even nowadays with mobile phones and etc and she takes adavantage of that but rudeness is not part of the culture I grew up in, so I had enough.

Don’t know much about her country’s hispitality culture though (their flag is black, red, yellow).

Message her this arrangement does not work for you anymore. There is no point in meeting, she came last time and then asked you to leave her alone, and you ended up watching kids.
She is very direct, so she shouldn't have problem with you being direct.

HalebiHabibti · 12/04/2024 07:43

Friend A is using you. Also, you should expect her to ask you for an apology for not including her in the lunch with Friend B, because that is how users think unfortunately. Have a reply ready for that if/when it comes up.

crockofshite · 12/04/2024 06:28

Tell A you weren't happy to be dismissed so she could read your magazine in peace after you made her a coffee.

Ask her if she realises how that made you feel.

Tell her, thanks for the offer of a get together, but not today.

IAmThe1AndOnly · 12/04/2024 06:24

If you don’t want the confrontation you could just ghost her.

I know that technically ghosting people is frowned on, but I also think that there are times when it’s justified, and for me this would be one of those, although I might do the “I’m not available/will let you know when I’m around,” line a few times first to see if she gets the message. But if not then I would ghost with impunity.

fedupwithbeingcold · 12/04/2024 06:23

That's rude in Germany, Belgium and I imagine anywhere in the world. She's clearly not afraid of being direct and she's taking advantage of you. It might not come natural to you so you can practise in front of the mirror. Suitable answers would be:

"No, I'm busy. Maybe next time"

"Very busy this week. What about next week?"

"Sorry but I am not happy to be dismissed in my own house. If you want to be alone, maybe stay at yours"

"I don't feel like having company today but thanks for the offer"

And anything along those lines

IAmThe1AndOnly · 12/04/2024 06:17

Nomorelittlebabybum · 11/04/2024 19:31

Do you think she might be autistic?

Fuck’s sake. Must every thread contain a post with this line?

BusyMummy001 · 12/04/2024 06:04

I’d do the avoid - just say no, you are busy and have plans. You could be blunt and say that you prefer to spend your time with people who don’t tell you to go away in your own home, so will likely be busy a lot going forward. [I would probably do this, but I can be snarky when ‘friends’ take the piss, but appreciate there are other more diplomatic approaches available.]

If she arrives unannounced again, just say you are busy and don’t have time to see her today. She’ll keep coming unless you [re]set your boundaries.

If she gets stroppy, then so be it. The friendship has run its course.

Catsmere · 12/04/2024 03:42

How about “Fuck off, I’m not your free cafe and childminding service.”

TheSoundThatIWasHearing · 12/04/2024 00:20

"No, I'm not available tomorrow as I will be reading my magazine."

Frangipanyoul8r · 11/04/2024 23:56

She sounds like a nightmare.

Starsandflowers · 11/04/2024 23:55

Omg that's given me the fear. I had a 'friend' like this for years and it took me ages to get rid of her. And even then it was only because of stalker levels of batshittery. It started out like you have described.. no concern for other people's boundaries.. jealousy of anyone doing anything without her even if she didn't really know the people involved
she once messaged me because she saw a picture of me on Instagram at a birthday party in Bristol which is across the other side of the country.. saying 'why have you gone to Bristol without me?'... I was at the birthday party of an old friend she only vaguely knew and who doesn't like her.....
even if it's something she hates....got upset I'd gone wild camping with a friend and she hadn't been invited.. even tho she hates camping...
she also once got cross because she saw I'd been for a coffee on a softplay with a friend.. it was a playdate for our 5yo children and her only child is 19.
She once rang me and I was at a BBQ at a friend's house that she didn't know at all and said 'oh can I come over?' I said the host didn't know her... she asked me to ask the host if she could come over and I said I didn't want to put that pressure on the host as it was rude. And she was so so angry at me about that for ages.
She was also the type of person who message you, and if you didn't reply within a few mins would follow up with 'Hello??"

Just distance yourself from this person now while you can. I tried repeatedly to talk to my 'friend' about boundaries and how I needed a certain amount of space... and she reacted terribly. Like constant angry messages and emails and voicemails. Entire essays. It was horrific. Eventually I had to block her on every method of contact.
I later found out many mutual friends had also had to do this.

BarbaraWoodlouse1 · 11/04/2024 23:54

How awful for you to have such a rude woman inconveniencing your day. She’s so inappropriate. What terrible manners. I’d also be distancing myself from her. Make it clear you need to spend more time alone. She sounds stroppy so might not take much for her to sling her hook! Don’t put up with it.

hottchocolatte · 11/04/2024 23:33

Option 1!

After a few minutes she asks if I can just ‘leave her alone so she can read the magazine she selected please?’

This is really rude OP! I'd like to think I'd have said "Works for me. I wouldn't mind some time alone too. Why don't you just take the magazine with you?"

Be unavailable next time and don't tell her what your plans are specifically if she is a tag along.

Psychoticbreak · 11/04/2024 23:25

I actually cannot believe two things, one someone could be so rude and disrespectful to come into YOUR home and as you to leave the room. I dont care if she needed to strip naked you do not come into someone elses home as tell them what to do.

Secondly I cannot believe you didnt tell her to fuck off and you actually left the room for 45 mins in your own home for her.

localnotail · 11/04/2024 22:54

Just say to her you will be busy. If she turns up, don't open the door.

Noseybookworm · 11/04/2024 22:35

Tell her not to come round again and tell her why - she was rude to you in your own home and appeared to not want your company, just some unpaid childcare. This is not the behaviour of a friend.

Garlicchilli · 11/04/2024 22:13

Does she actually want company or is she like two people I’ve met who deliberately visit others to keep their own homes clean and tidy? They were very open about not having to clean up after a child at the end of the day and having child care. For them refreshments, a magazine and lunch would be even more added bonuses.
Don’t indulge her. She’s not bothered about offending you. Use the coat trick.

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 11/04/2024 21:51

bananasstink · 11/04/2024 18:41

Playing devils advocate for a second. Did she mean to leave her alone or did she just want some companionable silence? Let's sit together whilst the kids play and look at our phones/magazines type thing. Is she so comfortable with you that she thought you could do this instead of making conversation?

That is still incredibly rude.

Calliopespa · 11/04/2024 21:49

Ofmince · 11/04/2024 21:33

"Lunch was lovely thank you. I'm not available tomorrow. I have to say I found it a bit strange and quite rude when you effectively dismissed me from my own living room earlier. I would appreciate it if you do not turn up unannounced and uninvited again in future to read my magazines in peace, you can do that at home. Today felt like you wanted free childcare and a free lunch."

I think this gets the message across without being unnecessarily aggressive.

Robyn847 · 11/04/2024 21:47

If you perhaps think "Fuck off" is too blunt you need to start employing the 'coat trick'.

I had to start doing this when a friend would keep turning up unannounced with her very badly behaviour daughters. I loved her company, but her Daughters were horrors.

Doorbell rings. Not sure who it's going to be? Put your coat on before you answer the door. Someone you like? Postman with a parcel? Neighbour with an emergency? "Oh hello, Good to see you. That's perfect timing. I've JUST got back in. Come in.". Someone you don't like? Friend wanting childcare? Friend wanting to read your magazines in peace? "Oh no, I'm just putting my coat on to go out! Bad timing!".

It's saved me many a time!

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 11/04/2024 21:38

I think you were incredibly rude to tell me to "go away" in my own home, so I don't want to see you again.

Done.

Isitautumnyet23 · 11/04/2024 21:38

Totally odd behaviour and I think everyone likes a little bit of time on their own (does she not think you might want some time alone at home even if she doesn’t?). Surely she must have things to do at home or want to spend time with her child, rather than just knocking on friends doors for coffee?

I wouldn’t get into the stress of having to ignore the doorbell/calls etc as that will just start to affect your life. In a polite but very firm way, I would make it clear (in a message or face to face if you can), that you need your own time at home and she cant just turn up unannounced. She has to text or call to arrange coffees in the future.

Ofmince · 11/04/2024 21:33

"Lunch was lovely thank you. I'm not available tomorrow. I have to say I found it a bit strange and quite rude when you effectively dismissed me from my own living room earlier. I would appreciate it if you do not turn up unannounced and uninvited again in future to read my magazines in peace, you can do that at home. Today felt like you wanted free childcare and a free lunch."

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