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To home educate for year six only

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 15:35

Has anyone else done this? How did it go?

My DC's school has been great for our family so far and our kids are very happy there, but every year all the Year Six kids seem really fed up until their SATS are over. As far as I can tell, all they do, for most of the year, is practice/revise for SATS. Which feels like an awful way to spend a year of your life when you're 10/11.

Should we just take our kids out of school for Year Six and home educate them? Then let them start Year Seven in secondary school as normal.

What might the pros and cons of this be?

Thanks in advance.

YANBU: home educate for Yr 6
YABU: keep them in school for Yr 6

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:23

VickyEadieofThigh · 11/04/2024 16:22

Are you saying, OP, that in Y6 the children only do maths and English and not the other national curriculum subjects?

That's basically the impression I'm getting from the Yr 6 in my DC's school.

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:22

Got to log of Mumsnet for a bit. Back later to read the replies. Thanks everyone. All your thoughts are much appreciated.

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VickyEadieofThigh · 11/04/2024 16:22

Are you saying, OP, that in Y6 the children only do maths and English and not the other national curriculum subjects?

chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:21

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 11/04/2024 16:17

The message you are sending to your DC that anytime life is tough or boring you don’t have to do it and you can stay home with mummy…. I really think that’s a dangerous message to send at an age when the are transitioning from child to teen

I do take your point though, that I don't want to mistakenly send the message that you can avoid tough things in life. I'd not thought about that until I started this thread. So that's really helpful.

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:21

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 11/04/2024 16:17

The message you are sending to your DC that anytime life is tough or boring you don’t have to do it and you can stay home with mummy…. I really think that’s a dangerous message to send at an age when the are transitioning from child to teen

How do you know they won't be staying home with daddy? Or both parents?

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:20

MintTwirl · 11/04/2024 16:17

I home ed so am naturally in favour of it but I wouldn’t do it because of the SATS alone.

Would you mind explaining a bit more about why you wouldn't do it just because of SATs? Thanks

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:19

KittensSchmittens · 11/04/2024 16:15

If my parents had taken me away from my friends in year 6 I think I would never have forgiven them.

Awh! Bless!

We would definitely ask DC what they wanted and take that into account.

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Maglian · 11/04/2024 16:18

I'd be worried about them not managing to re-integrate back into school. Being in groups of 30 all day, the sheer busy-ness of the cafeteria and breaktime and corridors... it's a big step up even if you're used to a school of 300. To go from being at home all day to that would be a hell of a journey for an 11 year old.

Also Y6 is an interesting time when they grown up a lot and start to spread their wings. The Y6 residential is a key experience for a lot of them. Taking it back down to being at home seems more like clipping their wings somehow. That's debatable, some will see it as giving them opportunities, but it does take away existing social opportunities too.

I think the reason to do it would be if you have serious doubts about whether they will cope at secondary, and you want to give home ed a try when they have time on their side. If all your eggs are in the basket of them re-integrating back into school from Sept of Y7, I wouldn't risk it myself.

chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:18

Majentaplasticglasses · 11/04/2024 16:00

I would advise against it.
I know DDs year group are doing fun stuff around the sats prep. They did an entire week dedicated to sewing, they have a residential next month, they've had cake sales to fundraise for end of year hoodies etc. They also focus a lot on transitioning to secondary school, including trips to do activities at the catchment secondary school. Out of catchment secondaries also offer transition days for pupils who are going there.

I can't advise on how awful or not awful SATs prep is, as DD has SEN so is exempt from doing them. At the risk of sounding like a hypocrite, she is leaving year 6 in 2 weeks though, due to an unavoidable cross country move and will be home educated from then until year 7. Our case is slightly different though as she will be going to a specialist school in year 7 so wouldn't be missing out on taster days etc.

That's really encouraging that there are schools that weave non-SATs focused activities around the SATs prep to break it up a bit. It seems that at DC's school they do fun stuff in September and then again after the SATS, with just solid SATs prep in-between. But I could have got the wrong end of the stick on that - as a PP said I need to talk to the school.

Hope your move goes well.

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PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 11/04/2024 16:17

The message you are sending to your DC that anytime life is tough or boring you don’t have to do it and you can stay home with mummy…. I really think that’s a dangerous message to send at an age when the are transitioning from child to teen

MintTwirl · 11/04/2024 16:17

I home ed so am naturally in favour of it but I wouldn’t do it because of the SATS alone.

KittensSchmittens · 11/04/2024 16:15

If my parents had taken me away from my friends in year 6 I think I would never have forgiven them.

chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:15

NeverDropYourMooncup · 11/04/2024 15:59

Are you so certain that they'll be able to reintegrate into formal education afterwards? It's not guaranteed, especially not when their last memories of school were of the cosy earlier junior years and then they're parachuted into huge secondaries with no close friends/no sense of progression or transition and what can feel like a bear pit to anyone who has gone through the big residential, end of school shows, the parties, last sports day, etc, etc, never mind one who has been in the quiet environment of 1-2-1 teaching and effectively unlimited breaks, snacks, no uniform, no timetable, no formal consequences, unrestricted movement, days off to go to the park or beach because it's sunny, fun trips that are all about them...

To go from that to being very small and anonymous in a louder environment where you get detentions for not doing homework, have to get in by 8.15am, wait in queues for food, etc, can result in a lot of difficulty beyond what happens when they're going from Y6-transition-Y7 along with everybody else they know.

Yes, one of my concerns is reintegration. Thanks for raising that. It's definitely something to think through - if we could keep in touch with school friends during that year or if that's completely unrealistic.

I'm not sure why you think home ed would involve unlimited breaks and snacks and no timetable! And they wait in queues for food (and various other things) at my DC's primary school!

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fashionqueen1183 · 11/04/2024 16:12

The kids at our school seem to love year 6! All the leavers stuff! Their residential trip is amazing. No don’t do it! :)

chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:10

EmilyTjP · 11/04/2024 15:58

This.
You’re teaching them they don’t have to do anything boring if they don’t want to. You’re going to raise kids who want to sit in their bedrooms and not go to work!

I think that very much depends on what we do with the home ed year if we do do it. We definitely wouldn't be sitting our bedrooms for a year! We don't do that at the moment while they're in school.

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:09

Panicmode1 · 11/04/2024 15:56

I think it depends what you tell them about SATs - I told all of mine that it was to test the school, not them (and they are pretty meaningless in that regard where we live because we are in a grammar area, therefore most Y6s are being tutored, so the schools' performances are skewed IMO). And I agree with a PP - there is lots of testing throughout secondary school - are you going to keep your child home every time they have a test?!

They do loads of stuff in Y6 - play, residential, sports day, work around transition to secondary - my fourth child missed his Y6 because we were in lockdown and it was really sad that he missed out on lots of the fun stuff my older ones had done. I wouldn't want to deprive a child of that experience.

Thanks for this. That's a very good idea re telling them the school is being tested not them! Will defintiely do that if we do keep them in school for Yr 6.

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:07

Petrarkanian · 11/04/2024 15:55

At my daughters secondary they do exams and tests every couple of weeks, it is an exam factory. What will the secondary be like that they will go to?
Year 6 is hard but they do have fun after and they get to be the biggest in the school. I remember that feeling.

Wow! Maybe we should home school for secondary too. An 'exam factory' sounds like an awful environment!

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:06

Foxesandsquirrels · 11/04/2024 15:52

I don't know. I think half the fun is the fact they actually appreciate it after a hard year. Yes it's a lot and it's questionable but lots of kids make masses of academic progress in the sats prep. The lesson is delayed gratification and the discipline involved in the academic push, plus the experience of seeing your results after lots of studying is invaluable and I think the cohorts that didn't have this are really struggling in all those areas.

That's really interesting about delayed gratification. That is an important life lesson.

I'm not convinced those who missed SATs are struggling because they missed SATS. I think they're struggling cos COIVD was just a bloody awful time and such a huge chunk of their lives to date, and they missed out on a lot of education generally rather than missing out specifically on SATs.

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maudelovesharold · 11/04/2024 16:04

I wouldn’t dream of doing this if my children were otherwise happy at school. Some of their fond memories will be about having gone through the hard/boring stuff with friends - the camaraderie of all being in the same boat and moaning about it together! I think it would be really counter-productive for them to miss out on the anticipation that comes with knowing they’re in their last year together and about to launch into a wider world.

chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:02

DelurkingAJ · 11/04/2024 15:49

Depends on your DC. DS1 is thoroughly enjoying Y6 because the SATS mean that his class is actually focused for the first time in years…

Glad your DS in enjoying it. That's encouraging to hear. I have a sneaking suspicion that one of mine might enjoy it, but the other won't!

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chocolatefiends · 11/04/2024 16:01

Cadela · 11/04/2024 15:49

Are you going to take them out of school for all exams?

SATs are pants, but it’s good prep for GCSE year, which comes around very fast.

You can’t take your children out of school to limit a bit of stress, any time they don’t want to do something they’ll think well it’s ok mum will sort it out. Not how your raise capable adults!

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Not at all. I just think a 16 year old sitting exams is hugely different to an 11 year sitting then.

Also, GCSEs are of huge benefit to the people who sit them. I could be wrong (happy to hear other's thoughts), but as far as I can tell SATS don't do much for the kids who sit them - they just provide data for the government which they then use to criticise schools.

As you say, SATS are pants, so why do we ask kids to do them?

Lots of aspects of school (and of life in general) cause stress but are worth doing/going through. I'm not looking to teach my children to avoid stress, I'm looking to avoid them possibly wasting a year of their life on something that is of no benefit to them.

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Majentaplasticglasses · 11/04/2024 16:00

I would advise against it.
I know DDs year group are doing fun stuff around the sats prep. They did an entire week dedicated to sewing, they have a residential next month, they've had cake sales to fundraise for end of year hoodies etc. They also focus a lot on transitioning to secondary school, including trips to do activities at the catchment secondary school. Out of catchment secondaries also offer transition days for pupils who are going there.

I can't advise on how awful or not awful SATs prep is, as DD has SEN so is exempt from doing them. At the risk of sounding like a hypocrite, she is leaving year 6 in 2 weeks though, due to an unavoidable cross country move and will be home educated from then until year 7. Our case is slightly different though as she will be going to a specialist school in year 7 so wouldn't be missing out on taster days etc.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 11/04/2024 15:59

Are you so certain that they'll be able to reintegrate into formal education afterwards? It's not guaranteed, especially not when their last memories of school were of the cosy earlier junior years and then they're parachuted into huge secondaries with no close friends/no sense of progression or transition and what can feel like a bear pit to anyone who has gone through the big residential, end of school shows, the parties, last sports day, etc, etc, never mind one who has been in the quiet environment of 1-2-1 teaching and effectively unlimited breaks, snacks, no uniform, no timetable, no formal consequences, unrestricted movement, days off to go to the park or beach because it's sunny, fun trips that are all about them...

To go from that to being very small and anonymous in a louder environment where you get detentions for not doing homework, have to get in by 8.15am, wait in queues for food, etc, can result in a lot of difficulty beyond what happens when they're going from Y6-transition-Y7 along with everybody else they know.

EmilyTjP · 11/04/2024 15:58

Cadela · 11/04/2024 15:49

Are you going to take them out of school for all exams?

SATs are pants, but it’s good prep for GCSE year, which comes around very fast.

You can’t take your children out of school to limit a bit of stress, any time they don’t want to do something they’ll think well it’s ok mum will sort it out. Not how your raise capable adults!

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This.
You’re teaching them they don’t have to do anything boring if they don’t want to. You’re going to raise kids who want to sit in their bedrooms and not go to work!

Panicmode1 · 11/04/2024 15:56

I think it depends what you tell them about SATs - I told all of mine that it was to test the school, not them (and they are pretty meaningless in that regard where we live because we are in a grammar area, therefore most Y6s are being tutored, so the schools' performances are skewed IMO). And I agree with a PP - there is lots of testing throughout secondary school - are you going to keep your child home every time they have a test?!

They do loads of stuff in Y6 - play, residential, sports day, work around transition to secondary - my fourth child missed his Y6 because we were in lockdown and it was really sad that he missed out on lots of the fun stuff my older ones had done. I wouldn't want to deprive a child of that experience.

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