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Who's right and who's wrong out of me and my husband?

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SallyMcCarthy · 11/04/2024 15:14

I had major abdominal surgery 2 days ago (gall bladder removal, laparoscopic surgery), and I'm now recovering at home. Knowing I was going to be having the surgery, I booked my dog into Doggy Daycare for every day between now and 22 April. My dog, Fudge, absolutely adores going to daycare. It's a wonderful place and he loves romping around with the other dogs - it's his favourite thing to do. So, I thought: I'll book him in every day for four/five hours, so I'll be able to have a calm house to recover in, and he can be having fun at daycare. I assumed my husband would be willing to drive Fudge to and from the daycare facility. For context: my husband hates being 'stuck in the car'. He finds driving stressful, whereas I love it. Doggy Daycare is a 30 minute drive from our house. While I was in hospital, my husband messaged me and said, 'The traffic was really bad this morning when I was taking Fudge to daycare, so from tomorrow onwards, I'm not going to take him. I'll just look after him at home, it's fine -- I'll take him for walks two or three times a day.' Now, Fudge totally would be fine, but he'd also be a bit bored. His favourite fun is going to play with the other dogs. He has such a wonderful time. And I very much want to recover gently from my operation and ideally do some work too (I have a backlog waiting for me, once I have enough energy) and it would be so much harder for me if there were a bouncy bored dog in the house all day during this period. Another thing, for context, is that I am the sole breadwinner. I earn a lot of money, and my husband hasn't worked for about 15 years (he gave up his job to be at home with the kids because my job required constant travel in those days.)

So, I said to him, 'Listen, I really really want a quiet house so I can work, and for Fudge to go to daycare. Please, please will you drive him there and back while I recover? Just for maybe five days, and then I should be strong enough to drive him myself.' And my husband said no. He said he didn't mind having Fudge at home and would far rather that, and walk him several times, than take him to daycare with all the driving involved. And I just wanted Fudge to have the most fun possible, and for me to have the quiet time I craved too...so I ended up driving Fudge to and from daycare yesterday, the actual day after my abdominal surgery. And I drove him there again today, and will pick him up this afternoon - even though I feel tender and weak and barely recovered. Husband sees me doing this and still doesn't say, 'Look if it means that much to you, I'll drive him there and back.' Am I being unreasonable to think he should just have driven the dog to day care for the days I can't do it?

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Rosscameasdoody · 12/04/2024 09:16

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 06:44

PIP is not dependent on being out of work. And I thought contribution based ESA had a time limit - but maybe I'm wrong?

I didn’t say PIP was dependent on being out of work, I said you can claim it if you are disabled - it’s not means tested and not affected by whether you are able to work or not. Contribution based ESA is limited to one year if you’re in the work related group, and there is no time limit if you’re in the support group - although announcements in the budget indicate that this is set to change soon.

ABirdsEyeView · 12/04/2024 09:07

It's also not very nice to ask someone who is stressed out by driving to do that for 2 hours every day for no better reason than taking a dog to play with its friends!
Not everyone is a confident driver - I get anxious and would rather walk miles to avoid it. I'll do it when I have to but wouldn't just because my dh thought the dog should go to daycare!

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/04/2024 09:07

Pheasantsmate · 11/04/2024 23:22

Mumsnet hates dogs. If you had asked about your freeloading husband honouring any other promise whilst you were recovering from surgery the answers here would be different

I love dogs - I have one and my entire livelihood is centred around them.

I still OP is very, very much in the wrong.

ABirdsEyeView · 12/04/2024 09:03

I think a lot of this hinges on whether he agreed to do the driving before the OP booked the dog into daycare or whether he said he'd do it after it was a done deal.

But he doesn't have to keep the dog out of the house for the amount of time the dog would have been away - he's not the OP's employee ! All he's obliged to do is to walk the dog sufficiently and keep it company.

Re sah, if OP is desperate to reduce her work time/ wants a less full on job but they need a certain level of income, then her dh should try to find work which enables her to do that. If she just thinks he ought to do any old job just 'because', then this is unfair imo because he's ruined his chance to build a meaningful career by looking after the dc and this suited the OP well enough at the time.
There was always the option years ago for both to work but in less travel intensive jobs - it was as much her responsibility as his, that they made a different choice. There are consequences to this decision and her now having a sah partner who doesn't have great earning power is one of them.

We don't actually know what he's doing all day. Might be very little or it might be taking care of everything so the OP has little to do outside of her job.

NadiyahZ · 12/04/2024 08:46

TeaGinandFags · 11/04/2024 18:26

Op states that hubby agreed to take Fudge to daycare. Then changed his mind leaving her up a creek without a paddle.

Fudge shoukd still go to daycare but via taxi not with his mum.

OP should rethink here relationship. If she's keeping him in blover, thdn the least he could do is keep a promise.

Fudge does not need to go to daycare. Fudge is a dog, not a child. He has a human owner at home who is capable and is actively offering to walk him several times a day.
OP is not fudge’s mum, she’s a human and his owner.

It is utterly ridiculous to expect anyone, paid or unpaid to chauffeur a dog around for 2 hours a day- not including traffic.

Tandora · 12/04/2024 08:45

omg this thread!!! Mumsnet slates women who don’t work when their children are old enough to be at school all day. And imagine if on top they complained that they didn’t like driving while their DH recovered from surgery ? You’d all be slating her!!

YANBU OP.
your husband is clearly a selfish , lazy arse, who can’t even put himself out for a couple of hours for five days while you recover from surgery. 😢 can’t believe he’s happy to sit there and let you drive… does he care about you and the dog at all?!

Sparkletastic · 12/04/2024 08:17

It's weird that your dog can't just hang out at home.

Nanny0gg · 12/04/2024 08:10

Pheasantsmate · 11/04/2024 23:22

Mumsnet hates dogs. If you had asked about your freeloading husband honouring any other promise whilst you were recovering from surgery the answers here would be different

I love dogs

I would not agree to do all that driving so it could play with its 'friends'

HFJ · 12/04/2024 07:59

given their children became adults around 6 years ago, that means they’re all, say, at least 25. This puts the parents in their mid to late 50s. I’m wondering if the husband senses something is wrong about his driving ability or his general health/cognitive capacity, hence backing out of his commitment to honour what was a very reasonable request. Perhaps, like so many men, they don’t realise how painful and tiring recovery is from things like birth, hysterectomies, any kind of abdominal surgery.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 12/04/2024 07:51

DearAnt · 12/04/2024 00:14

That’s precisely what he wants to do?

Yep; so she should call his bluff and let him…

ChildcareQ · 12/04/2024 07:43

Oldtigernidster · 11/04/2024 21:47

I hope you make a good recovery.
Fudge is a very lucky dog to have such a lovely, caring owner. Sadly I don’t think your DH feels quite the same about him as you do. Refusing to drive him wasn’t being kind to either of you.

😂

Ihearyousingingdownthewire · 12/04/2024 07:30

I do think that because my husband has been able to be rich and completely free with his time since the kids turned into adults 6 or so years ago, that he could stick to his promise to do just four days of dog drop offs, which he agreed to before I went into hospital, even though he doesn't enjoy driving.

He's in the wrong. He’s ’completely free’ with his time. He should be able to honour a prior agreement while the bankroller of his luxury lifestyle recovers from surgery, even if he doesn’t like being ‘stuck in the car’ all that much. 🙄

Princessfluffy · 12/04/2024 07:20

I can understand that you feel let down that things did not go as planned.

However, your driving immediately after surgery recklessly endangered other peoples lives. This is on you and not on DH.

If DH was really going to walk the dogs lots and keep him out of the way then this was a reasonable alternative course of action.

I suspect that there may be a lot more to this regarding your relationship with DH though.

ziggies · 12/04/2024 07:07

Eviebeans · 12/04/2024 06:05

I know it may sound harsh but I think that if we were talking about a "stay at home mum" instead of a "stay at home dad", I feel the expectation would be that they would be going back to work maybe as soon as the youngest child started in reception. However, in my view they should certainly be doing something to contribute financially as well as practically to the care of the "children" as they get older. Although they may not need so much in the way of hands on care/the presence of one or other parent, as they get older they certainly do not become cheaper!

I think the husband here may be slightly selfish and perhaps a little bit lazy. Perhaps the OP has been so busy working to keep this show on the road that she hasn't had the space to address this. But now she has to take enforced rest to recuperate she does have that time. I hope she uses it wisely.

Not really, if the husband is raking in 6 figs, it's common for the woman to stay at home rather than work a minimum wage job.

Sadly I know a few couples who met at our uni (prestigious uni, prestigious course, so equally good prospects) where the SAHM's chance of a City career died off during the child-rearing years. Financially, there was no point them going to do some crap admin or shelf stacking job for literally pennies compared to what they had enabled their husbands to earn.

Of course there's the whole pride/independence thing but I'm just saying financially this is a common arrangement for many former SAHMs

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 06:47

Rosscameasdoody · 12/04/2024 06:31

As mentioned upthread l had a laparoscopic cholecystectomy and was home the next day - back at work the following week because my job was sedentary. It isn’t considered major surgery in the same way as open cholecystectomy.

Laparoscopic surgery decreases recovery time. However it doesn't change that it is still major surgery.

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 06:44

Rosscameasdoody · 12/04/2024 06:28

PIP - personal independence payment, and contribution based ESA are payable if you are either disabled in the first instance, or sick and unable to work, in the second. PlP isn’t means tested, and ESA allows for personal income such as private pensions up to £85 per week. It doesn’t count household income.

PIP is not dependent on being out of work. And I thought contribution based ESA had a time limit - but maybe I'm wrong?

DotAndCarryOne2 · 12/04/2024 06:41

Poppercorn · 11/04/2024 20:11

You're absolutely not insured if you're driving. Could be two - six weeks before you are, and you need the doctors OK also. If you crashed your car (your fault or not) you wouldn't be covered even if it's nothing to do with your surgery.

You don’t need your doctor to OK your driving. After surgery they just advise the suitable period of recovery before driving again, and away you go. That’s my experience anyway.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 12/04/2024 06:36

SkyBloo · 12/04/2024 06:34

You want your husband to drive for an hour x2 each day just so that your dog can have fun?! Dog needs trumping human needs or what.

This, yabvu. You don't just make a plan that involves someone else spending 2 hours a day doing something they hate, without ok-ing it with them. He has said he'll walk the dog?!

If you read the OP’s subsequent posts you will see that he originally agreed to this.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 12/04/2024 06:35

SallyMcCarthy · 11/04/2024 16:45

Yes, sorry - he did agree, so I assumed his agreement (to do it for just 4 to 5 days) would remain in place, and not change once I was in hospital and he hit one traffic jam.

If he’s not working and it was agreed then yes he should stick to this despite one traffic jam. He’s being a bit precious about this I’d say.

What else doesn’t he do that he could/should do? It does seem like when he gave up work and didn’t return he’s got into a pattern of not wanting to put himself out and then stalling when there’s an issue with this. It’s not LTB territory 🤣but I wouldn’t be happy that he couldn’t make an effort.

SkyBloo · 12/04/2024 06:34

You want your husband to drive for an hour x2 each day just so that your dog can have fun?! Dog needs trumping human needs or what.

This, yabvu. You don't just make a plan that involves someone else spending 2 hours a day doing something they hate, without ok-ing it with them. He has said he'll walk the dog?!

Rosscameasdoody · 12/04/2024 06:31

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 06:24

Actually yes your operation and OPs were both major surgery.

As mentioned upthread l had a laparoscopic cholecystectomy and was home the next day - back at work the following week because my job was sedentary. It isn’t considered major surgery in the same way as open cholecystectomy.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/04/2024 06:28

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 03:54

And what benefits do you get for having disabilities and unable to work if the family is rich?? 😂

PIP - personal independence payment, and contribution based ESA are payable if you are either disabled in the first instance, or sick and unable to work, in the second. PlP isn’t means tested, and ESA allows for personal income such as private pensions up to £85 per week. It doesn’t count household income.

UndertheCedartree · 12/04/2024 06:24

ReadingSoManyThreads · 11/04/2024 23:19

YABU

You've not just had major abdominal surgery, you've had a laparoscopic gall bladder removal, i.e. keyhole surgery. No different to an appendectomy, which I had recently which is very much MINOR surgery!

Anyway, expecting your husband, who you know hates driving to drive for two hours per day, when he can look after the dog at home is completely unreasonable. Just let him look after the dog at home, and rest yourself at home, which will aid your recovery.

Actually yes your operation and OPs were both major surgery.

LoseMeLikeAnArrow · 12/04/2024 06:07

Curious if he drives 30 minutes or more to any hobbies, as that would make him a bit of a twat if so...

Eviebeans · 12/04/2024 06:05

I know it may sound harsh but I think that if we were talking about a "stay at home mum" instead of a "stay at home dad", I feel the expectation would be that they would be going back to work maybe as soon as the youngest child started in reception. However, in my view they should certainly be doing something to contribute financially as well as practically to the care of the "children" as they get older. Although they may not need so much in the way of hands on care/the presence of one or other parent, as they get older they certainly do not become cheaper!

I think the husband here may be slightly selfish and perhaps a little bit lazy. Perhaps the OP has been so busy working to keep this show on the road that she hasn't had the space to address this. But now she has to take enforced rest to recuperate she does have that time. I hope she uses it wisely.