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AIBU to expect a three-day stay with a friend to include some activities?

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potofpins · 11/04/2024 12:27

I'm the kind of person who, when people come to visit and stay over with me, tries to offer a selection of things we can do and places we can go. From my pov as host, it helps break the days up and gives us something to talk about. It can also give us a bit of time out from each other.

I have an old friend who used to live locally. We used to go round to each others' homes for a coffee or a drink or meet up with in town for events etc. A couple of years ago she moved from our town and bought a place a 4-hour drive away. It's quite rural but in lovely countryside.

She regularly asks me to go and visit: I think she's probably a bit lonely. I've been twice, the latest time last autumn. I stayed for three nights and I was desperate to get away by the end of it because she had no interest in going any further than the local village for milk and bread and she wasn't keen on the idea of me going off on my own to explore. We ran out of things to talk about fairly early on so I ended up doing household chores with her (cleaning out kitchen cupboards, gardening, planting bulbs, cleaning our cars) and helping to cook and tidy up. I sat in her living room reading a book while she did life admin. In the evening we watched her choice of TV. All my suggestions to take us out to lunch or to the pub for supper, or to visit a local NT place were refused — even though I made it clear they'd be my treat. When I said that perhaps I'd go to the NT place on my own, as I'd like to see it, she said 'But you're here visiting me, why would you do that?'

She's been asking me to go and visit again next month. Would it be unreasonable to say I will, but only on the basis that we go out and do something each day, at my expense if necessary, or that I go out and get to explore the area on my own?

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ICantThinkofAnythingClever · 11/04/2024 20:54

It seems to me that the OP and the OP's friend/host simply have different views on the purpose of the visit. The host wants to spend a relaxed time together with her guest, chatting, hanging out etc.- she may not be much of a "going out" person, she is prioritising companionship. The OP on the other hand is prioritising the place, making the most of her time off, and approaching it like a tourist visit: what can I see in this area that's worth seeing? How can I get to know the area? What are the best attractions, restaurants etc?

Neither approach is wrong or unreasonable, but they are at odds. They don't have similar personalities, or friendship "styles".

MsLuxLisbon · 11/04/2024 20:27

She's a CF. I would never expect a friend to sit about clearing my cupboards. If you want to visit the area again, stay in a hotel.

Bumblebeeinatree · 11/04/2024 20:27

I think you are going to offend one way or another, she wants you to stay home with her, however politely you say you want to go out it's not going to be acceptable. Invite her to yours, your rules, or arrange to meet up at a hotel for a couple of nights, preferably with on site things to do.

goingdownfighting · 11/04/2024 20:25

Invite her to yours instead.

RazzberryGem · 11/04/2024 20:18

Is she nervous going out and about usually?
Maybe she's got a touch of social anxiety and feels much more comfortable and safe staying at home?

Are there any other activities you could do / take? I don't suppose you're both into any board games or anything? That can pass many hours!

ringoffiire · 11/04/2024 20:15

Why do you think it was, OP?

Is she agoraphobic/ generally doesn't leave the house very much? For example I have a relative like this who just hardly ever goes out herself, and she would never arrange anything when I visit because it's just unknown to her.

Could it be general anxiety?

Or does she have money worries?

Either way it sounds like you have different expectations of hosting/ visiting one another, so you need a conversation to get on the same page before you go again.

Jeannie88 · 11/04/2024 20:08

Totally understand. Could you book a couple of things (without having to pay in advance) and tell her you've done this, as a surprise/treat, something you think would be nice and you really want to do? Xx

sonjadog · 11/04/2024 20:08

It sounds incredibly dull. When I visit friends and when they visit me, we always go out and about. I would go mad sitting inside the house all day long. I think your message is a good idea, and if she refuses to accept you going out and doing things, then I would decline to visit her in future.

StoneTheCrone · 11/04/2024 19:58

God, that sounds dull. As you say, she hasnt learned the art of hosting. You're meant to entertain guests not have them cleaning your cupboards.

I'd stay elsewhere but close by for a couple of nights, arrange to see a few places and just have a flying visit with your friend.

Onelifeonly · 11/04/2024 19:47

I wouldn't accept an invitation to stay over with someone where I knew the conversation would run out AND we wouldn't go out. I'd rather go out but could cope if there was plenty to talk about.

If I were you OP, I'd either decline the invite or insist on booking or agreeing on an activity in advance. It sounds like your last visit was very tedious. I'd rather stay home and do my own housework.

Stickyricepudding · 11/04/2024 15:56

I would stay at a local hotel and visit her and alternate it with visits and trips out. This way you're in control and not hostage to her boring plans.

potofpins · 11/04/2024 15:18

I'm beginning to wonder if hosting is a skill and not everyone learns it. She's stayed with me twice, but on each occasion she came because there was an event on that she wanted to attend. The first time one of our mutual friends had a big birthday bash and the second time there was a concert on that she wanted to attend, so those trips were built around activities. Although now I think of it, she did seem to spend a lot of time just sitting round in my house when we could have been out and about.

I'm going to message her and say that if I come up again, it will be with plans to visit a number of places (I might even list them) and she's welcome to come along, but I need to feel that I'm getting a bit of a break from routine and seeing the area where she lives properly. If she takes offence, well...

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Maninthemoonsmiles · 11/04/2024 14:57

She does not sound like a generous host interms of thinking what guests would most enjoy and seems deadly dull - cleaning out cupboards!!!!! Surely you're worth a bit more than that! I would drop the friendship and spend time with some more fun people who are into doing the activities you like and make you laugh. Life is too short for wasting a whole 3 days and loads of £ on being bored.

nononocontact · 11/04/2024 14:48

Thinking about this some more, I’m getting really annoyed!! I think she’s a rubbish host and by extension a bit of a crap friend. Wouldn’t anyone with an ounce of decency “allow” their friend to go out for the day rather than watching them clean out their cupboards?

I think I would tell her I won’t be visiting and exactly why! Any wonder she’s lonely when this is how she treats friends who come to visit!

I initially gave her the benefit of the doubt but thinking on it, I cannot imagine having a friend round and refusing to go anywhere, also refusing to let them go anywhere without me, and let them clean my home ? It is beyond entitled!

Haydenn · 11/04/2024 14:43

You ended up doing housework? Fancy coming to visit me? 🤣🤣🤣

Riverlee · 11/04/2024 14:41

Just another thought, is she worried about sending money?

Riverlee · 11/04/2024 14:40

Don’ go for so long, or maybe visit her en route to somewhere else?

I agree though, I wouldn’t want to end up doing household stuff in someone else’s house , and would feel embarrassed if a guest came and cleaned my cupboards whilst visiting. It’s okay to
gave a quiet time - go on walks etc, but to be stuck inside would be frustrating. If she was doing life admin, sounds like she ignored you.

nononocontact · 11/04/2024 14:34

I would just say, that might be fun - I could go to X Saturday and Y Sunday that I didn’t get to last time. Would you be up for joining?

Then she can say it doesn’t suit (and you can decline due to the expense) or you can go and you’ve already set the itinerary!

Totally with you on this because if you don’t visit the place you’re in then you could really be anywhere (and the catch-up could be on the phone and not a huge expense!). Honestly the “but you’re here visiting me” is bizarre and truly mortifying!

potofpins · 11/04/2024 13:40

Jf20 · 11/04/2024 13:19

I am not sure either are unreasonable, she thinks you’re coming to see and spend time with her, and doesn’t see it as visitin the area so going off to sight see or out for meals. She thinks you’re there to keep her company and visit. And you don’t wish to do that, which is fair enough,

just decline. You know the score, so say you can’t as busy and make an excuse.

Ah; I wonder if you're onto something here.

When people come to visit me I work on the basis that although I can be good company for an evening or maybe even a day, people will probably get weary of me if we're on top of each other day after day. I certainly get weary of them. So I build in things that will get us out of the house with opportunities for us to have a bit of space and do our own thing. I don't assume that I'm interesting or easygoing enough for people to find pleasure merely in being with me. I find that a bit odd.

@KreedKafer she does go out, but I think she's found it difficult to make friends since moving up there so she doesn't have a social circle. She has an elderly mother she looks after one week in four: she goes to her mum's. So not agoraphobic.

When I proposed, say, going to the pub for supper she'd say that she'd got food planned (it was nothing special that wouldn't keep) and why go out?

I think this has highlighted the difference between those friends who are good company for a day or an evening, but not for 72 hours at a time.

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grapeomelette · 11/04/2024 13:38

I just wouldn't go. It sounds suffocating.

Workawayxx · 11/04/2024 13:27

id say it’s not essential to go places but her carrying on with her normal routine while you slot in doesn’t sound much fun!

Maybe reply something like:

It’s always lovely to see you but I do like to get out and about every day even just for a walk or coffee or a bit of window shopping. So i could come but plan something for the days and you are welcome to join me or not. Would that work for you?

Sirzy · 11/04/2024 13:23

I would find one place locally and then say “that’s great I will be going to x while I am there and would love you to come with me”

Jf20 · 11/04/2024 13:19

I am not sure either are unreasonable, she thinks you’re coming to see and spend time with her, and doesn’t see it as visitin the area so going off to sight see or out for meals. She thinks you’re there to keep her company and visit. And you don’t wish to do that, which is fair enough,

just decline. You know the score, so say you can’t as busy and make an excuse.

YearsofYears · 11/04/2024 13:17

Usually when someone comes to visit I'm better at planning and getting out and about to show them the nice things near me. It's a great excuse. Washing cars on a weekend away would be the last straw for me. I would stick to visiting a restaurant or a group activity in future.

VainAbigail · 11/04/2024 13:15

When I said that perhaps I'd go to the NT place on my own, as I'd like to see it, she said 'But you're here visiting me, why would you do that?

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