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Should petrol money and accommodation be charged?

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PinkStarAtNight · 11/04/2024 10:23

I am looking for opinions on whether a person should be charged petrol money and accommodation fees or not.

So the situation is, person A and person B agreed to go on holiday with each other and booked a holiday together last year. They paid half for the holiday itself and, because it involves person A driving them there, they of course agreed they would split the petrol money.

Months later, person C, who is a close family member of person A, is going through a tough time and was invited to tag along on the holiday as they live alone and are struggling.

There is now a debate as to whether person C should pay a third of the petrol money and a third of the accommodation costs.

Accommodation has already been paid in full between person A and B, so paying for accommodation would involve person C handing over cash to person A and B to make it so they have essentially all paid a third each. And petrol money would be split three ways on the days of travel.

So...
Should person C pay an equal share of accommodation and petrol?

Or should they not have to pay, because person A and B planned this trip a while ago and would be paying half regardless of whether person C attends or not.

Person C will not be increasing costs in any way as the accommodation has always been big enough for three people, as person A and B booked a large caravan. Person C has agreed that they will not be dictating what happens on the holiday or factored into any decisions or plans for the activities, as they are only going because they don't want to be alone right now.

Also, does it make a difference that person C is close family member of one of the original people?

OP posts:
BusyMummy001 · 11/04/2024 16:13

Depends on the wording of the invite:

Ie: ’so sorry you’re down. We’ve booked a place for xdates and have plenty of room, why don’t you tag along?’ Probably not reasonable to ask unless money/costs were part of that conversation.

They could talk to person C and say that when the offer was made, the assumption was that the cost would be split 3 ways and they’re sorry if that wasn’t clear - do they still want to come, but the cost is xx?

maddening · 11/04/2024 16:03

Person c should pay their third, or A could cover 2/3s if they want to subsidise C

MoonWoman69 · 11/04/2024 16:01

@Slaapje Ha ha! No problem, I used them as fake names as I'm not keen on the A and B thing. It gets too confusing sometimes!

We also took Beth for a "cheer up" holiday, she'd been through a rough time. And she did offer extra payment when she got some more money, but we wouldn't hear of it.
I'd have thought that's what friends/family do when times are tough. The villa was only a two bedroom, but as Beth was my oldest friend and we'd done it countless times before, she slept in with me. One more person didn't impact on the holiday at all. But I suppose that also depends if you all get on well!

HappiestSleeping · 11/04/2024 15:07

PinkStarAtNight · 11/04/2024 11:13

Yes, A asked B and B is fine with C attending.

There will not be a food shop as each person is taking their own food from home. Meals out will be paid on a per person basis.

So the payment arrangements would have been cleared up at this point then, before person C was actually invited?

Milkand2sugarsplease · 11/04/2024 15:04

Absolutely C should pay their way. Why should others foot the bill to provide C with a free holiday.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 11/04/2024 15:02

Agree Cindy should pay 1/3 of both transportation and accommodations with cash or picking up the equivalent at dinner out.

I’d also be side eying the arrangement of everyone bringing their own food. I’ve seen that go horribly wrong. (One person eating caviar and filets and other eating bread and water).

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 11/04/2024 14:56

@PinkStarAtNight are you A, B or even C , @PinkStarAtNight ?? do you think C should also share costs??? does A think C should share costs also?? does B think C should share costs?? does C think she should be getting a free holiday???

NeedToChangeName · 11/04/2024 14:40

I would expect costs to be shared between people attending ie C should pay

But, if a close friend of mine wanted to bring their sister and I knew they were struggling financially, I might be generous and suggest another arrangement

bellezarara · 11/04/2024 14:35

Yes, A asked B and B is fine with C attending.

Did A confirm with B that B was happy for C to join for free?

Catza · 11/04/2024 14:34

Caroparo52 · 11/04/2024 11:58

From post you are inviting C because they are going through tough time and you are being nice. It wasn't to reduce overall costs to A and B. Therefore if C offers to contribute then accept a token gesture but not full 1/3 whack.. obviously they pay for own food and extras but not accommodation or fuel.

Why not?
Bethany was planning a fun weekend piss up with her friend Alice, and then Alice invited Cindy who is going through a rough time and is going to spend the weekend crying into her Prosecco and rehashing her painful breakup with a Ted. Instead of a fun weekend, Bethany is now stuck in a moan-fest-caravan and is not even going to be compensated for the pleasure?

Riverlee · 11/04/2024 14:33

Yes, C should pay (or at least offer to pay).

Silvers11 · 11/04/2024 14:31

@PinkStarAtNight So much depends on the exact scenario here, which we don't know. Is there any more you can add to the following?

We don't know how happy 'B' is about person C coming, or whether they felt they HAD to say yes and are secretly somewhat dismayed that a third person is now coming to change the dynamics.

Did they say it was ok before or after the invitation was given to 'C'?

How big is the caravan and how many bathrooms/toilets does it have?

What are the sleeping arrangements? How many bedrooms and beds does it have?

We don't know if person 'C' is 'struggling' financially or whether she is just finding life hard currently for other reasons.

We also don't know exactly how the offer from 'A' to 'C' for 'C' to join the holiday was actually worded to 'C' when it was given

My answers would be different depending on the answers to the above questions

bellezarara · 11/04/2024 14:30

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mitogoshi · 11/04/2024 14:24

1/3 each unless there's specific reasons to waive it

MolkosTeenageAngst · 11/04/2024 14:20

This should have been discussed at the time of invite. If B expected C to be paying 1/3 when agreeing to it then it’s a bit late to now say actually C won’t pay. Equally if C expected the trip to be free then it’s a bit late to suddenly say there’s a cost.

However, I do think whilst accommodation costs might be a bit of a grey area as it’s already been paid C should 100% pay towards the petrol on the day alongside the others, it would be very rude for anybody to expect a totally free trip.

MyHornCanPierceTheSky · 11/04/2024 14:16

If I was B I'd be worried this was going to become more expensive than planned and corralled by A and C... 'oh don't you worry C, we'll get this' 'should we get some drinks for the caravan, don't worry C, this is on us'..

Spoonthief · 11/04/2024 14:16

If Person A invited person C and person C can’t pay then person A should pay their share.
Really it shouldn’t impact on Person B financially unless there was an agreement prior.

Did this get discussed before the invite went ahead ?

AmaryllisChorus · 11/04/2024 14:15

If person C is broke, I'd say tag along, we've already budgeted the holiday - but they need to pay their way for food etc.

If they're not broke, then they should pay 1/3. Bit petty but a heavier car load eats more petrol, if utilities are metered at holiday place - showers and cooking will be more. And check holiday company is okay with a third person joining - they may ask more to cover cost of laundry and cleaning.

Londonrach1 · 11/04/2024 14:09

Each person pays a third

Londonrach1 · 11/04/2024 14:09

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Garlicked · 11/04/2024 14:08

Hang on, A & B "invited C to tag along" on a tip they'd already bought and paid for.

Did they actually say "Hey, C, why not come with us? It'll only cost you [a third of holiday price]"

Or did they say "We've already got this booked, an extra bed won't cost us any more so why don't you come along?"

The second invite sounds very much like they only expect C to pay whatever extra costs she incurs - her flights, a third of the food & drinks, etc. And that's what "tag along" sounds like to me. C's had no input to the choice of holiday or dates, which she'd have been entitled to as a full paying member of the party.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 11/04/2024 14:06

If I were B I may be too polite to say I didn’t want C to come - but I would be very pissed off. If I wanted to go away with C I would have suggested it in the first place.
The only thing that might make it better would be if C coughed up, sure as hell wouldn’t subsidise someone’s else’s relatives holiday.

savoycabbage · 11/04/2024 14:05

OMGitsnotgood · 11/04/2024 13:48

You don't invite someone who is having a bad time as though you're looking out for them and say by the way here's the bill.

I'd agree with this if A & B were both close friends/relatives of C. Doesn't seem that way. B has already had her holiday with A changed to add another person, not sure why B should pay for them, although of course A could do so if they wished

True, A could pay two thirds for everything and B one third of everything.

bellezarara · 11/04/2024 13:59

Of course person C should pay their way. It's immaterial that Person C is tagging along.

If both A and B were happy to treat C then that's one thing but if person A is saying C should come for free as they are not costing extra then that's completely unreasonable.

OhmygodDont · 11/04/2024 13:56

OMGitsnotgood · 11/04/2024 13:48

You don't invite someone who is having a bad time as though you're looking out for them and say by the way here's the bill.

I'd agree with this if A & B were both close friends/relatives of C. Doesn't seem that way. B has already had her holiday with A changed to add another person, not sure why B should pay for them, although of course A could do so if they wished

I agree clearly B isn’t actually happy they are effectively subbing A’s family member a freebie otherwise this thread wouldn’t exist.

Not even the offer of paying for a meal from the responses either. It’s taking food from
home and all paying their own when they do eat out.

So sounds like A and B were already doing this on a shoelace. Half their payment towards the caravan could make quite the difference to B and A can always suck up not getting half of what they paid back.

That’s without the fact that technically a heavier car will use more fuel too as it’s got to move a bigger weight of an extra person and their food/luggage. Yeah maybe not a lot in the grand scheme but if B is feeling mugged off already it’s all going to add to a tipping point.