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Should petrol money and accommodation be charged?

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PinkStarAtNight · 11/04/2024 10:23

I am looking for opinions on whether a person should be charged petrol money and accommodation fees or not.

So the situation is, person A and person B agreed to go on holiday with each other and booked a holiday together last year. They paid half for the holiday itself and, because it involves person A driving them there, they of course agreed they would split the petrol money.

Months later, person C, who is a close family member of person A, is going through a tough time and was invited to tag along on the holiday as they live alone and are struggling.

There is now a debate as to whether person C should pay a third of the petrol money and a third of the accommodation costs.

Accommodation has already been paid in full between person A and B, so paying for accommodation would involve person C handing over cash to person A and B to make it so they have essentially all paid a third each. And petrol money would be split three ways on the days of travel.

So...
Should person C pay an equal share of accommodation and petrol?

Or should they not have to pay, because person A and B planned this trip a while ago and would be paying half regardless of whether person C attends or not.

Person C will not be increasing costs in any way as the accommodation has always been big enough for three people, as person A and B booked a large caravan. Person C has agreed that they will not be dictating what happens on the holiday or factored into any decisions or plans for the activities, as they are only going because they don't want to be alone right now.

Also, does it make a difference that person C is close family member of one of the original people?

OP posts:
SweetFemaleAttitude · 13/04/2024 12:02

PinkStarAtNight · 11/04/2024 21:53

Agreed. And B was offered the double bed. However, recently another problem has now arisen over bedding...

There was an option to pay an extra £40 to have all the beds made up on arrival. £40 per caravan not per person. Caravan is made for 4 people so all costs are based on this. £10 per person so £40.

Person A wanted to pay the £40 to get the bedding but person B didn't as didn't see point of extra cost, especially because there wouldn't be 4 people actually going so felt that £40 was too much. So, person A called the holiday company to explain that although the holiday is designed for 4 people, there was only three going so would it be an option to just pay £30 for three people? They said yes, but if there is only three people they won't make up the double bed.

Person A couldn't then backtrack and ask them to make up the double bed because they had already told them there would only be three people and the holiday company said this is how it works...person A is annoyed with person B because person A would have been happy just to split the £40 but person B was quibbling over this and now the double bed will not be made up. So all three of person A B and C are paying £10 each for bedding but if person B is to have the double, they would have to take their own bedding.

Jfc. This along with:

There will not be a 'food shop' - each person is taking a big bag of food from home. Takeaways and alcohol are not part of the plan as no one drinks and two of the three are on a diet

How can you call this a 'holiday'

It sounds miserable AF.

LadyVorkosigan · 13/04/2024 11:57

Person C should definitely and non-negotiably pay for their petrol and food share. As for accommodation, C should offer to pay and it's up to the others to accept or not.
Terrible idea, BTW, to bring the additional person. If I were person B I'd probably not go at all.

TubeScreamer · 13/04/2024 11:46

Always better to err on the side of being too generous than mean or mean-spirited, imho.

TubeScreamer · 13/04/2024 11:44

It would make life easier all round and reduce the risk of any lingering resentment if C paid a third.

Shinyandnew1 · 13/04/2024 09:42

Delphiniumandlupins · 13/04/2024 00:41

So person C "lives alone" but doesn't want to be in a house on their own at night when A and B are on holiday because "usually A is there"?

  1. 3 people instead of 2 in a 4 person caravan WILL make a difference. There will be less storage, less space in the fridge, less private space.
  2. A should ask C to contribute towards the costs
  3. B should not have to pay towards the bedding if they're bringing their own
  4. C should offer to pay one third of petrol and caravan (and half the bedding)

If the holiday had been planned for 3 people how would costs have been split?

Where did it say C lives alone? The OP said Person C lives with person A.

The full story is in the original post.

No, it’s not, OP-you keep adding bits and not answering questions properly…. you’ve said it’s a caravan for 4, but what bedrooms are there? One double and a twin?

Who is driving?
Is C the child or partner of A?

Has C offered any money? Is A expecting to pay for C?

Coconutter24 · 13/04/2024 07:53

Has C not already offered? If not that’s very cheeky of them to say they can’t be alone knowing full well A is off on holiday as they were clearly angling for an invite. If A wants to cover C costs then they can but B shouldn’t be expected to if they don’t want to so C could just pay B their share. If the caravan sleeps 4 and has 1 double 2 single (is that correct?) why will the double not be made up, surely that’s only 2 beds with bedding on then? Also if your neither A B or C why are you involved?

Delphiniumandlupins · 13/04/2024 00:41

So person C "lives alone" but doesn't want to be in a house on their own at night when A and B are on holiday because "usually A is there"?

  1. 3 people instead of 2 in a 4 person caravan WILL make a difference. There will be less storage, less space in the fridge, less private space.
  2. A should ask C to contribute towards the costs
  3. B should not have to pay towards the bedding if they're bringing their own
  4. C should offer to pay one third of petrol and caravan (and half the bedding)

If the holiday had been planned for 3 people how would costs have been split?

friendlycat · 12/04/2024 23:45

For a harmonious situation all round it would be better if everyone paid equally their way.

MrsRaspberry · 12/04/2024 23:37

OP you said in the original post that person C lives alone and further comments state now that person C lives with person A. Whichever way it sounds like B has been goaded into agreeing to C tagging along by both A and C. Considering C is all like they cannot be alone for a week it seems to me like they've used their situation to work in their favour to get to tag along on this holiday. Tell person C if they're wanting to tag along they can pay something toward the holiday as person B absolutely shouldn't have to pay half when an unplanned 3rd person is tagging along whilst the 3rd person pays nothing. I can imagine that person C will probably have an impact on some of the original holiday plans

Pepsiisbetterthancoke · 12/04/2024 23:18

C is a CF who is definitely being manipulative, essentially gatecrashing A & B’s weekend away and then for free

If A wants C to come then total costs should be split into 3 with A&C paying two thirds (how this is split between them is up to them) and B pays one third

Agree with pp that I wouldn’t be surprised if this was A & C’s plan from the start but did it the way they did so B subsidised the cost

FrogTheWarrior · 12/04/2024 23:05

Alwaysalwayscold · 12/04/2024 17:07

I'm 99% sure OP is person C.

That’s what I thought but having read the OP’s posts I think OP is A, C’s mum.

B being A’s good friend (up until now, at least).

Tiptop3 · 12/04/2024 20:19

Yes person C should pay a third no matter who they are as they are basically having the same as person A and B.

JLou08 · 12/04/2024 20:06

Person C should pay a third unless there is a reason that would be difficult for them, for example if they have recently separated from a partner and gone from shared bills to paying it all or if they have lost a job etc. But even in situations like that person A and B need to both be in agreement and that agreement should have been reached between them before person C was invited.
Being a close family member to one person makes no difference in my opinion, if that person wants to cover 2 thirds because its their family its their choice but the other person shouldn't be obliged to do the same.

Dibbydoos · 12/04/2024 19:24

Person C should cover food costs would be my suggestion.

I once paid for a holiday and was going to take one of my dogs and have a lively time exploring. Instead I invited a mate. We went in separate cars at her insistence. She said she'd pay for groceries and bought sod all - spent £20. The next shop she said it was My turn and she loaded the trolley with chocolate and crisps and stuff for herself. I'd arranged to catch up with 2 friends. She said she was too ill to go to visit the first one - her turn to drive c40Miles - but came to the secobdbone and was chuffed my friend copped for the whole bill.

Never again ever will I invite someone who is a little down to a holiday, lesson well and truly learnt....

Vonesk · 12/04/2024 18:40

I was in this situation where a vulnerable person was involved in a situation .
Being kind hearted, I thought of a solution after mulling it over in my mind. There was, for me , no cut and dried approach - rather A Loving Approach so I just said to her " Pay me what YOU think is fair." And she was very fair and generous.

123ZYX · 12/04/2024 18:16

If the caravan is for four people and one bed is a double, how can three beds be made up without the double being one of them?

strawberry2017 · 12/04/2024 18:03

If a 3rd person is added then they need to pay a 3rd of the costs.

Alwaysalwayscold · 12/04/2024 17:07

I'm 99% sure OP is person C.

PeloMom · 12/04/2024 17:05

Yes they should pay- they’re benefiting from the holidays and surely it changes few things for an and B instead of being only them. C being a relative doesn’t matter at all.

DragonFly98 · 12/04/2024 17:01

MetalFences · 12/04/2024 07:41

Did the bear attack the villagers? Because that makes me less likely to leave the 27 year old alone at home with them.

I take it that is an absolutely 'hilarious' and oh so clever comment on SPAG by someone who had to edit their own post.

You do realise the use of "bear" rather than "bare" was correct in the original quote? So no it was not SPAG related.

DottyLottieLou · 12/04/2024 16:51

You know how mumsnet works. It always descends into childish bickering over some made up scenario, sometimes totally unrelated to the OP. Enjoy.

Noglitterallowed · 12/04/2024 16:31

If the accommodation is already paid then I wouldn’t ask for anything but petrol and bedding yes I would. Just casually say ok so it’s now £…per person.

northernbeee · 12/04/2024 16:20

I think if that was me in that situation i'd write off the caravan cost as you've already paid that and i'd split the petrol 3 ways.

Noodles1234 · 12/04/2024 16:13

Tricky only in the sense of close to one of the people. I would suggest Person A lightly suggest to Person B “I wonder if we should ask Person C to contribute towards the petrol and accommodation so it is shared”. If they look aghast maybe they pay all the petrol (if works out similar), or maybe just suggest they pay for the food shop again as long as inline with the share. I probably would have asked when the first comment was mooted.

I think it wise to raise the question, or if Person B is a very good friend, see how the holiday goes (ie Person C is ok), and just forget it.

QualityDog · 12/04/2024 16:01

C doesn’t pay accom, you don’t get invited or told you’re coming on holiday because you need support without also being clearly told cost. Suck it up

You can't know this.

I don't see why B should have her holiday upended and still pay for a holiday for two. Why should she suck it up?

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