Page 6 | Surestart should be reistated for the good of the nation

Wavywoo · 2024-04-10T07:22:12+00:00

The report out today that shows the longterm benefits of the Surestart programme confirms what supporters of the scheme said all along. The government have grossly mismanaged public resource, and done children and families a massive diservice, in defunding Surestart, and yet claiming to have spent several times more on Early Years.

Queijo · 10/04/2024 08:46

Of course they should be reinstated, every study shows that good support in Early Years has far reaching benefits for crime, poor mental health and education in teens and young adults.

The Tories have plenty of billions to line the pockets of their pals, they just don’t give a fuck about anything else.

MarshMarig0ld7364 · 10/04/2024 08:45

soupfiend · 10/04/2024 08:35

As far as I know all the research (in several countries) shows that when the early years are well supported with effective provision, the issues for later childhood difficulties are reduced, including poor MH, drugs, crime etc in teens and young adults

Its more than 'every child matters' as an ideology needs reinstating, along with community hubs and centres that actually deliver a full programme of a mix of activities and support.

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Sorry I don’t agree. My children had Surestart, their generation is in the midst of a mental health crisis and there is no provision anywhere. Money needs to go there. Also the early years are already having a lot of funding.

kelsaycobbles · 10/04/2024 08:41

Yes it should be reinstated and if rich people need to pay more in the short term to make it happen my heart won't bleed

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Wavywoo · 10/04/2024 08:41

TinyYellow · 10/04/2024 08:36

Places like this are a ‘nice to have’ not an essential. At the moment even the essential services aren’t funded properly, so it’s not the time for extras.

It's this sort of short term crisis management based thinking that loses us better outcomes for society overall.

I would argue that the model pays for itself over time in reduction in social isolation, reduction in mental health issues, a better qualified and therefore more employable populace who then are able to pay more tax.

I truly believe that the scheme benefits society as a whole, and we really cannot afford to see it as a nice to have.

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soupfiend · 10/04/2024 08:39

TinyYellow · 10/04/2024 08:36

Places like this are a ‘nice to have’ not an essential. At the moment even the essential services aren’t funded properly, so it’s not the time for extras.

I would say you completely misunderstand what they are/were and what impact they have

Do you work with children/in social care?

Im at the coal face of this and I can tell you the lack of provision and support across the board is now paying off spectacularly - not in a good way

TinyYellow · 10/04/2024 08:36

Places like this are a ‘nice to have’ not an essential. At the moment even the essential services aren’t funded properly, so it’s not the time for extras.

soupfiend · 10/04/2024 08:35

MarshMarig0ld7364 · 10/04/2024 08:29

I don’t think there is enough money now and society has moved on. Families are getting free childcare, both parents are often now working and actually I think teens and young adults are the group needing better investment and which get the least. Mental health provision across the board is on its knees. Spare cash needs to go there.

As far as I know all the research (in several countries) shows that when the early years are well supported with effective provision, the issues for later childhood difficulties are reduced, including poor MH, drugs, crime etc in teens and young adults

Its more than 'every child matters' as an ideology needs reinstating, along with community hubs and centres that actually deliver a full programme of a mix of activities and support.

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Wavywoo · 10/04/2024 08:33

MarshMarig0ld7364 · 10/04/2024 08:29

I don’t think there is enough money now and society has moved on. Families are getting free childcare, both parents are often now working and actually I think teens and young adults are the group needing better investment and which get the least. Mental health provision across the board is on its knees. Spare cash needs to go there.

The government claim to have spent multiple times more on Early Years, so the money absolutely was/is there.

Other services including mental health definitely do needs to be funded properly too, I agree.

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ILoveYouMore2022 · 10/04/2024 08:32

MarshMarig0ld7364 · 10/04/2024 08:29

I don’t think there is enough money now and society has moved on. Families are getting free childcare, both parents are often now working and actually I think teens and young adults are the group needing better investment and which get the least. Mental health provision across the board is on its knees. Spare cash needs to go there.

But if you don’t adequately fund the early years, by the time children are teens, it’s like closing the gates after the horse has bolted.

MarshMarig0ld7364 · 10/04/2024 08:29

I don’t think there is enough money now and society has moved on. Families are getting free childcare, both parents are often now working and actually I think teens and young adults are the group needing better investment and which get the least. Mental health provision across the board is on its knees. Spare cash needs to go there.