DD angry at mature student for inappropriate email

Unless there was a back and forth string of emails from both the mature student and the lecturer that were flirtatious and inappropriate then I think your daughter is hugely overreacting!
I hope 'she's slept on it' and realises it's none of her business and concentrates on what she should be doing and not what other people who are more organised than her are doing.

Does your daughter have a little crush on the lecturer and it’s hit a nerve maybe? She definitely needs to leave this alone.

The 'poor girl' and her frothing co students are quite happy to be bitching in writing about a fellow student and a lecturer, calling into question professionalism of both and wanting to make formal complaints that will affect degree and job. They sound pathetic and immature, and like pp have said too caught up in the Gen Z shit that nothing and no-one matters more than them.

You laugh/bitch about it with your mates at 18yo and move on. End of. It's a non issue.

This is what i get from the OP too

OP I'm sorry I can't advise probably your daughter is not completely unreasonable but I don't think such a thing can be formally reported.

I'm interested, what exactly is unreasonable about a student emailing their lecturer in an informal way?

It's perfectly normal.

I often see my students at professional conferences and have often exchanged emails about whether we enjoyed the conference dinner or whether we're going to the informal drinks etc.

This!

Anonymised marking, sample second marking, review by an external examiner, and consideration of cohort grading and individual grading during the assessment boards all make it hard for unfair practice to occurr.

Tell your DD to get her head down and put her outrage energy into studying.

Why would most lecturers be embarrassed or have any reason distance themselves or have been acting anything less than professionally anyway? What makes you think an errant email has kept them in line? Obv I don't know the particular lecturer but you really think most are so unprofessional as to be swayed by a reference to sailing or whatever?

If my DDs did this I’d be worried that they were becoming mean spirited and intolerant. ‘Reporting’ people for objectively minor transgressions of rules (or even just social norms) is such a current reaction that seems to be popular among those who aren’t ready for adulthood (whatever their age). I’d say “get a life” to my kids if they acted this way.

I was thinking the same. She has seen the message from the student, but nothing of the lecturer's response. Most likely the lecturer will continue to behave professionally. It is nothing to do with dd, she needs to forget about it.

Mumsnet strikes again! Poor girl being torn to shreds ... noone knows the girl, nor read the email but so many opinions and adjectives used for this poor soul immature, spiteful etc. Who do you think you are to classify a girl and talk about bullying? Look at you lot first before attacking other people!

OP I'm sorry I can't advise probably your daughter is not completely unreasonable but I don't think such a thing can be formally reported.

There’s no GDPR issue here. The email will have gone to students’ uni email account and their email addresses will be in the organisation’s address book, so nothing is being disclosed. It will only have gone to students registered on the module, again no inappropriate disclosure. A reply to all function is not against GDPR. Unless the email the lecturer sent included personal details about a student/students then the lecturer has not breached GDPR. The student is responsible for their own “data” so whilst they might not have meant to share it publicly, they haven’t broken GDPR by doing so.

I’m an academic. If any of the students want to complain they need to read their course handbook carefully and work out exactly what they’re complaining about because ‘Bob sent the tutor a mildly flirty email and we think she’s going to give him a better grade because of it’ would be received with an eye roll.

Instead of all this drama have any of them actually had a chat with Bob about it instead of bitching about him on WhatsApp? It can be a pain in the arse when students get a bee in their bonnet. Some of them, usually the weaker ones, seem to thrive on generating hysteria over perceived slights. In reality we mostly don’t know their names and their assessments are marked anonymously.

I would be worried about favouritism too

I was a mature student on a post-graduate course. One of the lecturers had been a friend at a different university for our first degrees. This was in the days before so much technology but if either of us had emailed about lunch or a drink together and sent it to the whole group it would not have caused much of a ripple.

A chatty email would piss people off? Really?

Some people really need to grow up.

I’d have laughed as a student if I’d seen an email like that. Your DD just needs to move on.

Agree with this. Time to tell your DD to grow up, mind her own business and concentrate on her own work

@Hobbi sorry I read hobby as holiday!

Though I managed to skip a reference to a tv show I know both me and lecturer liked into my essay (mafs) though it was relevant to the topic (consent /drinking/ non professional participation in tv shows).

I think because of the embarrassment the lecturer will probably now bend over backwards to distance themselves and ensure everything is marked super fair.

It's good this has happened.

OP, you might want to warn your DD that organising a pile-on on an older student might be seen as ageism and bullying and if the older student wants to make a thing of it DD could end up on the front page of the Mail as a tyrannical Gen Z zealot trying to bully a mature student out of education. As others have said, the mature student has already been humiliated by this. Any attempt to compound the humiliation will look like a personal vendetta motivated by jealousy or a sense of inadequacy. I presume the mention of the mature student getting work in on time has pressed buttons?

With retirement in sight I'm thinking of signing up to do another degree at my local university but the thought of having to negotiate my way through it among a cohort of censorious young people makes my blood run cold. Perhaps I'll just cut straight to an MA and hope it's full of critical thinkers of a certain age.

A mature student of my acquaintance is currently coming to the end of a art foundation course and, having been told time and time again that 'you can't say that, you can't do that, you're not supposed to think that' by both fellow students and staff, decided to make her final project about the censorship of older women — and has been told she can't do that, by her 20-something course tutor, because it would cause too much trouble for everyone and upset her fellow students.

It sounds like your daughter needs to grow up a little.

Unless there is evidence of inappropriate behaviour in the email there is absolutely nothing to complain about.
A flirty tone is subjective - I teach mature students and we will often have a more informal relationship as we're close in age. Students will ask about my holidays or mention shared interest. It's just conversation.

As for favouritism, all assessed work will be moderated and subject to external examination so any anomalies will be picked up.

How is she going to cope in the workplace if this sort of thing gets her so wound up?

Drama 🦙

Not sure why you can't just read that again, but she said your daughter sounds immature. And a little jealous/ spiteful.

And she's right.

@burnoutbabe

'A shared holiday sounds inappropriate though.'

Good thing that's not mentioned then.