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to NOT ask DP this?

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PyongyangKipperbang · 09/04/2024 21:54

Been together a few years, dont live together by choice but both our places are "home". So LTR with all that brings.

He has his kids 50/50 but the arrangement includes EOW so him and his ex both get EOW kid free, which is very sensibly arranged and done, all happy. When it is his weekend without the kids he finishes work, gets showered and changed and goes for a drink. Which is not a problem, I often meet him and stay the weekend (EOW with ex with mine). Except he absolutely ties it on as it will be the first time he has been out for a fortnight so Saturday is a write off. Doesnt want to do anything, doesnt want to go out in the evening so I am left thinking wtf am I doing here?! Yes we can spend the evening together but he just sits watching crap on the TV.

I dont have a TV, I dont watch it, I hate the noise and it drives me mad so I end up in another room. More often than not I end up going home and the either chilling out or seeing friends. He doesnt like it but accepts that it was his own fault.

After some conversations about it (OK, blazing rows) he really made an effort to tone it down and not do two weeks worth of socialising in one night. Except that he makes a point of saying "See, I am back before midnight, not pissed" etc, like I should say "well done" or something. And lately it has happened a few times again. He knows I am pissed off about it. I can always tell when it is going to happen because instead of waiting for me to get to his after dropping the kids off and us having a bite to eat and a chat and then walking to the pub, he is already there. So last weekend I just didnt go. I went out with my adult daughters for dinner on the friday and to the theatre with my friend on the Saturday. He was down about it, but when I said "Well you will be in the pub and I dont want to go, and then Saturday I am going to see a play that you already said you dont want to go to, so whats the point?" he couldnt argue.

This Saturday is my friends 60th and ex is doing me a favour so I can go, and by coincidence his ex and their kids are going to a family wedding so he has the weekend without his kids.

I just picked up my phone to say "Please dont do your usual Friday and then let me down on Saturday", but I havent. He knows that this is important to me, so I have decided to see what happens. I dont actually care if he comes or not as it is my friends from MY HOBBY (cant say as its too outing)*, and we will have a blast either way, but I just want to see what he does. Was telling my sister and she said I am setting him to fail, but I disagree.

He knows he is invited, he knows when it is, he knows I am going and we can go together or he can be an arse and fuck it up....that is his chance" But then I think maybe thats why she has been married 25 years and I am on my third (and last) divorce!

AIBU

*Yes that was a joke....its poker, and if anyone gets it, the guys who's birthday it is, is the TD!

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caringcarer · 12/04/2024 23:57

Daffodilsarentfluffy · 09/04/2024 22:03

Sadly he's just not that into you..
Head and brick wall come to mind..

He has a clear choice socialising with you or going to the pub with his friends. He doesn't choose you. I'd look for someone who does want to spend their time with you. Don't settle for crap.

SleepPrettyDarling · 12/04/2024 23:51

Honestly, if I were on your shoes with your life experience (and I’m 50+ myself and divorced), when you don’t have a long shared history, you’re right to look at this and say it’s not how you want to spend time together. You don’t have the living-full time or seeing each other daily to make allowances on his free nights where he just wants to zone out.

Myself, I do the same as him, tbh / when I’m child-free, I’m dying to just have a few drinks with no obligations and slop about on a Saturday. Difference is, I’m not in a relationship, and when I was, I smartened myself up to focus my time on my then-BF.

Sounds like you’ve enough friends and interests to have a fulfilled and interesting life without him, and he doesn’t sound like he wants to change. And you’re mature enough to not go down the path of being the ‘nag’, a term I hate but I hope you understand it’s the role of ‘nag’ I mean.

if you’re already setting him little tests, you know how he is longterm, and I think you are going to end up disappointed.

justasking111 · 12/04/2024 23:38

nimski · 09/04/2024 22:08

A bottle of wine over 4 hours wipes him out for an entire day?!

It would me

AssassinsEyebrow · 12/04/2024 23:35

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/04/2024 23:06

Mini update....

Not said anything and he is currently in the pub and his messages seem more lucid than I would expect if he was pissed. Said he is looking forward to seeing me tomorrow. We shall see......

Also it isn't wine he drinks I used that example to show the amount of alcohol. Its usually six or seven single measures of a spirit with a large mixer.

But yes it is the selfishness that I have realised is the issue. I suspect that as I did other things on "our" weekend he will make an effort for the next couple of weeks, its what happens afterwards that will be telling. Further update on Sunday....Will very likely be mullered myself tomorrow night!!

7 measures of spirit is a quite a lot. To me anyway!

Sounds to me he has an established way of winding down and letting off steam, established as you say from when he was in the forces. Little incentive for him to find new ways to decompress (no offence to you), because he's tapping into that powerful camaderie he used to share every Friday and these weekends work for him.

A hobby would pull him in a different direction but he doesn't have by the sounds of it, so yes, incompatibility does sound like the crux of it

Concannon88 · 12/04/2024 23:18

I'm afraid binge drinking is a form of alcoholism and it sounds like its a bit of a problem for both of you.

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/04/2024 23:06

Mini update....

Not said anything and he is currently in the pub and his messages seem more lucid than I would expect if he was pissed. Said he is looking forward to seeing me tomorrow. We shall see......

Also it isn't wine he drinks I used that example to show the amount of alcohol. Its usually six or seven single measures of a spirit with a large mixer.

But yes it is the selfishness that I have realised is the issue. I suspect that as I did other things on "our" weekend he will make an effort for the next couple of weeks, its what happens afterwards that will be telling. Further update on Sunday....Will very likely be mullered myself tomorrow night!!

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WhichEllie · 10/04/2024 18:12

With what you’ve added, I think it’s pretty clear that the drinking is just an excuse because he wants you to laze around and watch TV with him on a Saturday. He’s not “suffering terribly with a hangover,” he’s just not interested in doing anything else and looking for a reason to a) have his own way and b) cajole you into sitting around with him so he’s not lonely. Certainly a bit low-effort and selfish on his part, and definitely a compatibility issue overall.

Glad to read your last post, @PyongyangKipperbang . I enjoy your posts and reading your OP made me a bit sad for you. Onward and upward!

Sunnytwobridges · 10/04/2024 17:54

I don't think it's necessarily his drinking that's the problem. It's the fact he chooses to drink which in turn makes him unable to spend quality time with you, is the true problem.

Sounds like an ex I had. He was a social butterfly, so had to go out every Friday evening and Saturday afternoons with friends. So the two weekends a month when I was childfree, but he wouldn't let me come over during those times because he was doing other social plans. So I would go over Saturday evening and leave Sunday by noon. I felt he chose his socializing over me, especially since I only had two child free weekends a month, and I only expected him to spend just one of those weekends entirely with me. In the end he just didn't like me as much as I liked him, and things eventually ended.

If someone likes you enough they are going to make an effort to spend time - quality time - with you.

Mummame2222 · 10/04/2024 16:57

Jesus. All these he’s got a drink problem, how bloody mental honestly.

You just have different priorities and life styles. You’d do my head in if I’m honest.

way2serious · 10/04/2024 16:54

What do you have in common? You both seem to want to do different things. He obviously has his way of unwinding and yours is different. Not sure what either of you are getting from this relationship

Emmylou22 · 10/04/2024 16:51

Sounds like he's not prioritising you and the relationship. If you didn't join him at the pub on a Friday and went out for the day on a Saturday, you'd never see him! He expects you to fit in with his preferences.

Sounds like he's just stopped trying. If going to the pub every childfree Friday and every childfree Saturday being a write-off is what he wants to do, then leave him to it. He takes it for granted you'll stick around but consider showing him that you won't.

SecondHandFurniture · 10/04/2024 16:04

liveforsummer · 10/04/2024 11:44

Surely he's allowed one day on a busy fortnight where he just chills at home - wine or no wine. My ex go to their dads EOW (no other time though) and usually on the Saturday I'm so exhausted I just crash too. Rarely arrange to do anything. I also think it's fine to go and socialise once a fortnight. Perhaps you are t compatible

That's the problem though, he is trying to combine his only one on one time with his partner with his chill time. No wonder she's pissed off.

toomuchfaff · 10/04/2024 13:32

saveforthat · 09/04/2024 22:20

This. Bloody hell I can drink a bottle over 4 hours and not even feel tipsy. He must be drinking more than that if he is wiped out the next day.

I'd challenge that perhaps he has some intolerance to wine if he is this impacted by wine that he is baggage the day after. Why does he continue to drink wine, has he tried other drinks, they may not impact him so greatly? Then you could go about your life?

Saying from experience, i used to suffer really bad hangovers; then realised it was wine. I now don't drink wine at all - cant tolerate it; the last straw was i started with a migraine within half hour of taking a glass of wine, i hadn't even finished it. That knocked me out for 2 days - not even a glass of wine.

liveforsummer · 10/04/2024 11:44

Surely he's allowed one day on a busy fortnight where he just chills at home - wine or no wine. My ex go to their dads EOW (no other time though) and usually on the Saturday I'm so exhausted I just crash too. Rarely arrange to do anything. I also think it's fine to go and socialise once a fortnight. Perhaps you are t compatible

PaminaMozart · 10/04/2024 09:08

What's the saying...... "never treat someone as a priority if they only consider you an option"...

RJnomore1 · 10/04/2024 08:48

It’s amazing how talking it through opens your eyes sometime isn’t.

There are so many men like this, set in their ways, in their small lives, and not really able or prepared to properly adapt. Their world extends to their local. They aren’t bad men, they may even want to be ones who do more, but it’s just too much of an effort or too scary.

Fling him back and get yourself an adventurer. You’re fab, you don’t need every weekend on the couch.

SecondHandFurniture · 10/04/2024 06:28

I had a boyfriend like this. I'd show up on a Saturday night and he wasn't even dressed. Takeaway, film he wanted to see or a pint at the pub next door at a push. I was just a small component of his week, not the main event. Difference being we were 17 and I was too young to know better.

This is a boring man, OP. Time to throw back.

Woman2023 · 10/04/2024 01:38

Sorry to read that update, relationships are hard because most people present their best outgoing selves at the start but can't sustain it long term.

PyongyangKipperbang · 10/04/2024 01:06

MissBattleaxe · 10/04/2024 00:54

You sound massively incompatible. You won't mould him into something you'd prefer so stop trying. From his point of view, you're already laying ground rules and from your POV, he has different interests and different dopamine hits to you.

Stop trying to change him and find someone better suited.

I can see how you could get to me trying to change him. Except this is what I was sold!

I was sold a man who wanted to go out for dinner, would go tho the theatre with me if it was something we agreed on (Saturday was a comedy which he admitted afterwards he would have liked to see), wanted to see live music that while, not always necessarily to his taste, he would give it a go. I saw many many live gigs of a genre that I am not a fan of, because I was giving my part back.

What I got was him trying to mould ME. What he wants is me meeting him at the pub with his mates, seeing his preferred bands if it suits him (once in 3 years and only then because it was his best mates birthday), or basically anything that isnt within a 1/2 mile radius of his house. On my big birthday I wanted to go a specific restaurant, so we went. My father (I found out later) treated us so no financial issues. I wanted a starter, he didnt. OK so I looked at the puddings, he didnt want a pudding. We were there less than1.5 hours for my special birthday, that he wasnt paying for, and got "So shall we go to The Red Lion then:?" couldnt get out of there faster than a whippet with a bum full of dynamite.

He wants me to fit in with him and his wants. He is lazy and selfish. It took this post for me to see that. Thank fuck we have never moved in together!

Like I say, not immediate action, but .......

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MissBattleaxe · 10/04/2024 00:54

You sound massively incompatible. You won't mould him into something you'd prefer so stop trying. From his point of view, you're already laying ground rules and from your POV, he has different interests and different dopamine hits to you.

Stop trying to change him and find someone better suited.

PyongyangKipperbang · 10/04/2024 00:40

Woman2023 · 10/04/2024 00:01

No-one drinks a bottle of wine and can’t function all day the day after.

I would have no hope of functioning if I drank a whole bottle. It would be messy at the very least.

Sorry, that's not helpful OP.

Agree your problem is his priorities, if you want to spend time with him being more functional then you probably need to make it clear.

I have. I did.

You know when you read posts on here "I am doing everything and going to work and when I lose my shit and say you need to do more, he steps for a couple of weeks and then it goes back to him doing nothing....."? Its like that.

I am 50. I am too old for this shit.

Nothing will change in the next few weeks, but I am thinking hard.

Thanks again.

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mrsfollowill · 10/04/2024 00:03

I think you have nailed it as in he takes you for granted! I also think my DH totally takes me for granted Grin in all honesty ( and I have said this out loud lots) if anything happened - DH leaves me or dies I would 100% not bother getting with a bloke again. I love him dearly and do not resent him for one minute - I like looking after him. But once we are done - probably when one of us dies I will live alone and get a cat.

Woman2023 · 10/04/2024 00:01

No-one drinks a bottle of wine and can’t function all day the day after.

I would have no hope of functioning if I drank a whole bottle. It would be messy at the very least.

Sorry, that's not helpful OP.

Agree your problem is his priorities, if you want to spend time with him being more functional then you probably need to make it clear.

PyongyangKipperbang · 09/04/2024 23:54

Thank you my friends.

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PyongyangKipperbang · 09/04/2024 23:54

NeurodivergentBurnout · 09/04/2024 23:47

The problem is that he consistently prioritises spending his alternate Friday nights down the pub and lounging around on Saturdays. The fact that you hate the TV when that’s all that he wants to do on a Saturday is a serious incompatible issue too.
I get the relationship dynamics - I’m in a LDR (well an hour’s drive) with my OH. We typically have our DC EOW and most week nights so our weekends without DC are spent together, usually we alternate who travels. But we are together! We watch TV/movies, walk my dog, go out for meals, been to a couple of stately homes, been to gigs..usually if we go out it’s on the Saturday and then we chill on Sunday before one has to drive home.
But your DP just…doesn’t! He only gets two free days/nights to see you a fortnight and he squanders 24 hours of that time drinking/recovering. I’d expect his DC to be his first priority but you should come before his drinking sessions and..you don’t.
I agree, don’t tell him. See if he’s capable of getting it together for the party. But plan a contingency for if he can’t (going alone, can you still sort transport etc) and think about what you’ll do after if he doesn’t come through for you.

Its funny how writing it all down has made me realise that actually its nothing to do with the amount he drinks and everything to do with his priorities.

Friday Him and his mates.....me there too for preference
Saturday Sofa, telly, footie scores, telly
Sunday Same as saturday without the footie scores

And yet he is very very down if I am not there. He wants my company but not what it costs him doesnt he?

I am very independent. I live my life my way, always have. I rely on no one but myself.

He takes me for granted and its only when I step back that he makes an effort. So he probably wont wreck this weekend because I stayed away last weekend, but it shouldnt be like that.

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