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DP and arguments over my shoes

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cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:05

Hi MN, hoping for some advice/support here or maybe some of you could point me towards a middle ground for us both!

For context, me and DP of 2 years have quite different styles. I’m early 20s, quite conventionally attractive with a good figure(if I can say so myself!) but I like to dress in a more indie way, think loose jeans or long maxi dresses/skirts if I’m dressing up! This is quite different to what I believe is his “type” who are the instagram model types, short dresses, think Oh Polly and just generally very girly outfits. I’ve always had this particular 80s-indie/manic pixie dream girl style (I was a bit of an emo kid at school!!)

The issue here is my shoes. I’ve recently found out that he HATES my doc martens (which I wear with pretty much everything, and have been since we met), and he’s said he “wishes I wouldn’t ruin a lovely outfit with a pair of trainers or boots”. Basically, he wants me in high heels, short dresses, and just generally to look a bit girlier. I’m a bit hurt because I LOVE those boots and would wear them everywhere, I think they go with everything but he vehemently disagrees.

Before I get absolutely flamed on here, I am a feminist and yes I know I can wear what I want and am well within my rights to tell him to fuck off!! But, he takes me on lovely holidays, out for dinners, day trips - all of which he pays for - and I want to look nice for him. BUT I don’t know where the line is between this and staying true to myself.

I was a bit of an ugly duckling until my late teens so I’m quite insecure - I own several short dresses that I know he’d like but I can’t bring myself to leave the house in them!

I tried browsing for high heels today and I actually almost burst into tears because, although I found some lovely shoes, none of them are ME! Same thing for the short figure hugging dresses, I’d honestly feel so insecure and like everyone was thinking im trying too hard. Plus, I don’t think I could even walk in a pair of stilettos without breaking one or more ankles….

What do I do? Do I just suck it up and buy the heels and dresses and wear them for date nights, then wear what I like to work and out with friends?? Or can I (gently) remind him that my style is part of how I express myself and I’m not willing to change??

Worth noting I am ND and was picked on in school for this and also the way I looked which explains some insecurities.

YABU - suck it up and wear the clothes he likes for date nights
YANBU - stick to my own style and remind him it’s a part of my self expression?

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cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:33

yeahandno · 09/04/2024 17:31

You've already said it - you're well within your rights to tell him to F Off!

You'll get similar sentiments all over this thread, so for the sake of providing another angle; could he think that you're not dressing appropriately for the places you're going? Trainers and DM's don't work everywhere. Or is he generally trying to feminine you up?

I wonder if it is a bit of both. As I said in the OP I am ND so I struggle to read cues, I think fashion is one of them. But I don’t often feel under or overdressed when we go out? But you’re right they don’t work EVERYWHERE, and I do tend to wear them everywhere. We went to a restaurant once and weren’t allowed out on the terrace as it was “no boots”. I do think he’s trying to make me a bit girlier too, which is fine, but I want to do it myself in my own style iyswim!

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softslicedwhite · 09/04/2024 17:31

Heels are the devil. I gave up even trying with them when I was about 25 and it was the best decision I ever made.

yeahandno · 09/04/2024 17:31

You've already said it - you're well within your rights to tell him to F Off!

You'll get similar sentiments all over this thread, so for the sake of providing another angle; could he think that you're not dressing appropriately for the places you're going? Trainers and DM's don't work everywhere. Or is he generally trying to feminine you up?

MsLuxLisbon · 09/04/2024 17:30

cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:28

This is so helpful, just the kind of response I was looking for when I posted this. Thank you!

You're very welcome! I realised you weren't after a feminist rant, but sadly this is Mumsnet so you will get one anyway. I knew exactly where you were coming from and I empathise with you a lot.

kelsaycobbles · 09/04/2024 17:30

queenMab99 · 09/04/2024 17:28

It doesn't have to be as stark a choice as stilettos or doc martens. They do sell more comfortable girly shoes.

Op isn't a girl she's a grown woman
She doesn't need girlie shoes and she doesn't have to want girlie anything

ScarlettSunset · 09/04/2024 17:30

High heels are really uncomfortable and will possibly hurt or even damage your feet.
He met you as you are now and shouldn't expect you to change for him.
At some point in the future, you might want to change your look yourself, and that's fine, but only ever do it for it yourself and not anyone else.

MsLuxLisbon · 09/04/2024 17:29

Here's an example of the sort of thing I mean.

DP and arguments over my shoes
LakieLady · 09/04/2024 17:29

Do you know his shoe size, OP? If so, I suggest you order him a pair of these for his birthday:

Stiletto heels

As he loves high heels, I'm sure he'd be delighted with them. And after a couple of hours of walking round in them, he'll fully understand your reluctance to wear similar shoes yourself.

DOMINA-108 Black Patent 6 Inch Heel Sandals

Domina-108 Black Patent 6 Inch Heel Sandals by Devious, Pleaser Shoes. Feminine black patent 6 inch heel sandals with three bounded straps with knot decoration in the middle and two side straps.

https://www.bananashoes.com/products/domina-108-black-patent-6-inch-heel-sandals

softslicedwhite · 09/04/2024 17:29

(Btw I am ND too OP, I got married in the most awesome navy dress and ankle boots)

queenMab99 · 09/04/2024 17:28

It doesn't have to be as stark a choice as stilettos or doc martens. They do sell more comfortable girly shoes.

Corinthiana · 09/04/2024 17:28

cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:11

I am genuine I’m not sure what you mean by this. I think you can be a feminist but also want to look nice for your partner.

Does he look nice for you? Would he be uncomfortable and damage part of his body if you bought him dinner?

softslicedwhite · 09/04/2024 17:28

In my early twenties I would have written pretty much this exact message.

In my early forties I would be out of there right now. Wear what you want, OP, unless it's offensive or you're having to adhere to some kind of temporary strict dress code, don't ever let ANYONE, but especially not a life partner, tell you what you should be wearing. And hinting that they don't like your stuff is the same as coming out and saying that they hate it, it's just a more subtle aggression.

No no no, absolutely fuck no.

cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:28

MsLuxLisbon · 09/04/2024 17:27

My answer depends on whether you want to change your style or not. I'm a bit like you in that I was a bit of an ugly duckling at school (think tall, gangly, small tits, not a pin up type) I now wouldn't change that for the world and love my figure: I am forty but look ten or even more years younger than that. It took me a LONG time to figure out what my personal style was, and for ages I 'hid' in baggy skater gear and docs. It has only been in the last few years that my style has evolved and I have felt comfortable enough to show off my legs and/or cleavage. I don't think your boyfriend should be telling you what to wear, (and as for the trashy influencer 'Oh Polly' look, yuk!) but if you yourself would like to branch out a bit, it might be worth looking at some vintage 90s styles and magazines. A Kookai slip dress and a pair of vintage Manolos would be stunning and a world away from the low rent look, but still a bit more daring than your current style. It's all about you, though. Not your boyfriend.

This is so helpful, just the kind of response I was looking for when I posted this. Thank you!

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/04/2024 17:28

cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:26

It’s not that I don’t WANT to dress up from time to time. I just think we have different concepts of dressing up? But equally I really love some of these dresses and shoes I see… just, on somebody else. I can’t tell if it’s insecurity holding me back or staying true to my own style.

You’re just different and want different things.

kelsaycobbles · 09/04/2024 17:27

I think staying with this guy will make any insecurity worse

That's how they start to control you - make your doubt yourself

colourfulcrochet · 09/04/2024 17:27

Well, he's sure trying to make you feel insecure. The question is, will you let him? Or follow your own instincts, stay true to yourself?

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 09/04/2024 17:27

AssassinsEyebrow · 09/04/2024 17:17

Don't change - would be the start of a slippery slope!

Keep your DMs.

But, perhaps you could introduce a pair of sexy heels in the bedroom? How would you feel about that?

Ofgs.

cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:27

Vetiver · 09/04/2024 17:25

I love DMs and don’t think you should change your footwear for a man, however if you wanted high heels that fit your style more maybe look at Irregular Choice? They’re beautiful!
https://www.irregularchoice.com/

Omg some of those are amazing! Very ME more than him 😂 thank you

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MsLuxLisbon · 09/04/2024 17:27

My answer depends on whether you want to change your style or not. I'm a bit like you in that I was a bit of an ugly duckling at school (think tall, gangly, small tits, not a pin up type) I now wouldn't change that for the world and love my figure: I am forty but look ten or even more years younger than that. It took me a LONG time to figure out what my personal style was, and for ages I 'hid' in baggy skater gear and docs. It has only been in the last few years that my style has evolved and I have felt comfortable enough to show off my legs and/or cleavage. I don't think your boyfriend should be telling you what to wear, (and as for the trashy influencer 'Oh Polly' look, yuk!) but if you yourself would like to branch out a bit, it might be worth looking at some vintage 90s styles and magazines. A Kookai slip dress and a pair of vintage Manolos would be stunning and a world away from the low rent look, but still a bit more daring than your current style. It's all about you, though. Not your boyfriend.

OutOfTheHouse · 09/04/2024 17:26

My DH will often comment of clothes of mine that he likes, or suggest that a certain dress or top might suit me. But he’d never try to change what I wear to meet his ideals.

Big nope from me.

cocunut · 09/04/2024 17:26

It’s not that I don’t WANT to dress up from time to time. I just think we have different concepts of dressing up? But equally I really love some of these dresses and shoes I see… just, on somebody else. I can’t tell if it’s insecurity holding me back or staying true to my own style.

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pomers · 09/04/2024 17:24

I don’t think this relationship is a long term prospect. You will get so tired of this

Devilsmommy · 09/04/2024 17:24

Fannyfiggs · 09/04/2024 17:14

I love a doc marten and a heel but if my DH said he hates my DMs and wants me to dress like Barbie you can be damn sure I'd be going out wearing a baggy dress, a ripped jumper and a DM on one foot and a skate shoe on the other.

Yes, yes yes 😁

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