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Hartley99 · 08/04/2024 23:16

I was just watching a documentary on the sex for rent scandal. Basically, landlords offer a room in exchange for sex. In most cases, the landlords are older men and the renters are young women. Apparently, it is common in places with large student populations - in other words, where there are lots of very young women who are struggling with debts/ loans.

The whole thing really sickened me. A journalist (herself a young woman) secretly filmed a meeting with one of these landlords. She posed as a young student who had seen his ad and wanted to know more. It made my skin crawl. He was late 40s, and a repulsive, creepy little nerd who could hardly contain his excitement. But what sickened me the most was that not only did he not think he was doing anything wrong, he thought he was being generous! He seemed to think he was doing her a favour! That seemed to be the attitude of all these men.

The other thing that got me was the comments below the video. I had naively expected people to write how vile it all was, how these men were taking advantage of the housing shortage, how they were targeting very young women, and so on. In fact, I read comment after comment (all by men) angrily defending the landlords! The general view seemed to be that it was a big fuss over nothing, that it was up to the women, and that if it was consensual it was OK and we should mind our own business. So many people were defending the landlords that I honestly began to doubt my own judgement. Is it wrong? Am I being over-sensitive and naive?

OP posts:
SocksAndTheCity · 09/04/2024 10:18

Paying for sex with a person who is of legal age and not being coerced or exploited is not against the law in England, Scotland and Wales, @AgnesX . If you're in Northern Ireland then yes, it is.

Exploiting people with few options who need somewhere to live (the sex for rent described above) is illegal, AFAIK.

AgnesX · 09/04/2024 10:07

Another2Cats · 09/04/2024 09:05

Paying for sex is (generally speaking) legal in the UK, so that is not the issue.

The offence is either causing or controlling prostitution.

I believe paying for sex IS against the law. Offering it isn't.

That said I'm not a lawyer and don't work in that field.

Either way it's pretty despicable..

MarkSloaneComeBack · 09/04/2024 10:07

This is vile but as long as there are women prepared to do this, it will continue

LMMuffet · 09/04/2024 09:52

I agree it’s disgusting. Though worth pointing out that it’s basically the same as prostitution given that many/most prostituted women will be using money from prostitution to cover their rent. They wouldn’t be doing it unless they had bills to pay. So if anyone is (rightly IMO) appalled by sex for rent and agree that it should be a criminal offence, you should also be appalled by prostitution in general and call for all men who pay for sex to be criminalised (i.e. support the Nordic model). They too are exploiting poorer women.

takealettermsjones · 09/04/2024 09:35

Modern slavery dressed up as something else.

Startingagainandagain · 09/04/2024 09:33

Having read this I am so happy to be single and 'stuck' with loving pets and a great, independent life...

I just don't understand how so many men only see women as subhuman sex toys.

Appalling.

LakeTiticaca · 09/04/2024 09:21

JMSA · 09/04/2024 01:36

Is this a new programme or has it been shown before? I could be wrong, but it sounds really familiar.

There is nothing more depressing than the comments written by men in the social media comments sections (I'm talking about FB, as that is the only SM I have).
It makes me despair.

My sister read something on there about women not choosing to have children. Many of the men's comments were predictably awful. One wrote 'you're just going to be stuck on your own with a load of cats.'

My sis replied 'don't threaten us with a good time' Grin

Being on my own with a load of cats is my ideal life 😁😁

Chatonette · 09/04/2024 09:15

So….this is sex work. The girls may not be getting cash, but they’re getting rent in lieu of cash.

The ‘doing the girl a favour’ thing really bugs me. I worked with a guy who used a prostitute when he went to Thailand. He said that what he paid her was what an average Thai worker earns in a week (but was peanuts for him). Because he ‘gave’ her a weeks’ salary, he acted like he was a fucking philanthropist.

Another2Cats · 09/04/2024 09:05

AgnesX · 09/04/2024 08:53

What do you call it when someone pays for sex?

Paying for sex is (generally speaking) legal in the UK, so that is not the issue.

The offence is either causing or controlling prostitution.

AgnesX · 09/04/2024 08:53

Golden407 · 09/04/2024 04:13

As grim as this is, are they actually breaking the law?

What do you call it when someone pays for sex?

bringmorewashing · 09/04/2024 08:50

How awful and depressing. Our society really hasn't progressed ss far as we like to imagine, has it? Hopefully these revolting predatory men can be prosecuted.

Newsenmum · 09/04/2024 07:43

MintGreenC · 08/04/2024 23:48

I know someone that does this, he has a flat in central London and rents rooms out for sex..

wtf seriously?

Saintmariesleuth · 09/04/2024 07:43

I've not watched the documentary yet OP, but I'm disgusted that there were so many comments supporting the landlord

Sadly, I can't say I'm ever so surprised- there seems to be an increased tolerance (acceptance from some) for porn/ sex work in the mainstream. I'm sure that easier access to porn and the marketing of sites such as onlyfans as more of a 'home business' is serving to normalise sex work.

Another2Cats · 09/04/2024 07:38

Also, this is included as a "Priority Offence" in the new Online Safety Act 2023. What this means is that sites like Facebook, Gumtree or anywhere else that people might put up these adverts in the UK will, in the future, have to have processes in place that will identify adverts like this.

How they are supposed to do that hasn't been decided yet!

Ofcom are currently coming up with codes of practice which websites will have to follow.

Another2Cats · 09/04/2024 07:28

Golden407 · 09/04/2024 04:13

As grim as this is, are they actually breaking the law?

Yes, it's an offence under the Sexual Offences Act 2003. Section 52 and Section 53, causing and controlling prostitution.

But the CPS hadn't really thought about it until there were a couple of undercover TV shows that highlighted it (the other was on ITV) which led to the issue being raised in parliament in 2018. Only then did the CPS change it's guidance which now says this:

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/prostitution-and-exploitation-prostitution

The first prosecution was in 2022 and the guy got 12 months in prison:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10800957/Sex-rent-landlord-52-jailed-year-giving-room-woman-sex-him.html

Sex-for-rent landlord, 52, is jailed for a year

A Surrey landlord who was the first prosecuted under 'sex-for-rent' laws was in new accommodation of his own today - after being jailed for making a suicidal woman perform sexual favours for board.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10800957/Sex-rent-landlord-52-jailed-year-giving-room-woman-sex-him.html

cariadlet · 09/04/2024 06:01

It's absolutely disgusting.

I've been pretty sheltered for most of my life: my Dad was a good man, my dp is a decent bloke and I've always had male friends.
It's only the last few years that I've realised how shitty a lot of men are.

Scum like the men in the documentary even tried taking advantage of Ukrainian refugees. There were loads of them advertising spare rooms but making it clear that they were only interested in renting to young women.

Taking advantage of women fleeing war was a new low.

Justleaveitblankthen · 09/04/2024 05:56

Yes I watched it when it was on originally.
Grim.

Desertislandparadise · 09/04/2024 05:44

Very depressing stuff. But have to say, the fact that we clearly all agree that this is horrible just goes to show that 'sex work is work' is just not true.

No one would mind lowering rent in exchange for mowing the lawn or whatever. Sex work (in all its various shapes and forms) is very often exploitative and I wish we all a society would stop glamourising it.

sunights · 09/04/2024 04:56

@JMSA

The documentary was first shown in 2019.

Golden407 · 09/04/2024 04:13

SabreIsMyFave · 09/04/2024 00:21

Gobsmacked at the fella with the Geordie accent near the end, who is utterly denying that he has done anything wrong. 'Well I just want a fuck in exchange for a free room, so what? I'm not forcing the lasses to come here.' Shock

YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW, YOU DUMB FUCK-NUT! I hope you get caught -and serve 7 years in JAIL, you pervy piece of shit!

Then at the VERY end, all the landlords featured (around half a dozen,) were questioned afterwards, and denied doing anything wrong - OR they refused to comment. Not one of them expressed shame or contrition, or offered a single apology, for treating young vulnerable women like pieces of meat, prostitutes, and borderline sex slaves.

I am fucking RAGING after watching this! Angry

Tragic thing is, this will not stop, ever. As long as MEN exist.

As grim as this is, are they actually breaking the law?

JMSA · 09/04/2024 01:36

Is this a new programme or has it been shown before? I could be wrong, but it sounds really familiar.

There is nothing more depressing than the comments written by men in the social media comments sections (I'm talking about FB, as that is the only SM I have).
It makes me despair.

My sister read something on there about women not choosing to have children. Many of the men's comments were predictably awful. One wrote 'you're just going to be stuck on your own with a load of cats.'

My sis replied 'don't threaten us with a good time' Grin

Northernsouloldies · 09/04/2024 01:03

Your moral compass would have to be truly fucked not to see how wrong these types of scenarios are.

IHateLegDay · 09/04/2024 00:46

I don't understand how vile men can never see when they're in the wrong. I hope they do jail time.

SabreIsMyFave · 09/04/2024 00:36

Onautopilot1 · 09/04/2024 00:34

I'm horrified that 10 people who have voted are OK with this...I hope they don't have daughters or sisters who may end up in this situation!

Clearly got a few men on here at the moment. 🙄 God help us all if it's women thinking this shit is OK.

Onautopilot1 · 09/04/2024 00:34

I'm horrified that 10 people who have voted are OK with this...I hope they don't have daughters or sisters who may end up in this situation!