Sex for rent

Nobody is paying though. *This was in response to the comments

"What do you call paying for sex?"

I really don't understand why my replies never "QUOTE"

UGH

I do agree it is absolutely disgusting! Male privilege is astounding :( But in my opinion this government is a problem! Allowing rents to go so high people cannot afford it, causing cost of living crisis, pushing human beings to the brink of extreme poverty. Higher education shouldn't be a privilege of selected few (middle class and white). Everyone should have the right to do it and be able to support themselves by doing "normal while studying" jobs like hospitality for example.

If someone I knew did this (the man) I wouldn't know them anymore and neither would most.
They probably wouldn't care as long as they get to get their dick wet. I just keep thinking of all the women who have been under a man and not wanted to be there and are disgusted by it. While he's grunting away sweaty and oblivious. Ugh stop the world!
I know some good men but men are the cause of so much horrifying shit

@Ecstaticmotion "What law is he breaking?"

If you see my post from earlier (quoted above), it explains the situation

@cariadlet "I'd love to see a prosecution on those grounds."

The first prosecution was in 2022.

Interesting, however abuse of a position of vulnerability is usually not used with regard to economic circumstances, (instead of things like learning difficulties, disabilities, addictions), because doing so would open up a can of political worms regarding what counts as consent in a capitalist system. If poverty and need can be factors in exploitation, a lot of ‘work’ would be exploitation.

It is disgusting and exploitative, but women are doing it because it is less awful than their alternative.I think if my choice was sex with a creep or sleeping in a box in sub-zero temperatures with the risk of being attacked/robbed/raped whilst I slept, I would choose the former.

It's illegal to pay for sex if someone is forced or threatened into it.

It could be argued if someone agreed to have sex with a disgusting landlord because they were afraid of being made homeless then they aren't in a position to freely consent ergo they are indirectly forced into it.

I'd love to see a prosecution on those grounds.

@Notimeforaname I see what you're asking, but i wouldn't consider university a necessity. You can work and earn etc etc instead of going to university. A roof over your head is necessity not luxury. So if the alternative is homelessness then it's not a choice? It's something you need to do because you can't afford rental prices due to the massive increase. That's why its exploitative.

What law is he breaking?

I love how furious and passionate you are @Hartley99 More people should think like you, and be as angry too! I think exactly the same as you, and I am angry! VERY fucking angry. The world seems to be full of seedy vile misogynistic men. I mean there a few 'good uns,' but even THEY have misogyny lurking underneath.

I know a bloke who lives near me who is really chirpy and friendly, and always says hello. I have known him (casually as a neighbour,) for about a year. I spotted him on Twitter last month, and looked at his page. There were plenty of messages about his favourite TV show on there, LOL-ing at comedies, and suchlike. All seemed OK. Then out of curiosity, I had a look at his 'likes.' Where he had not commented or said anything, or re-tweeted, and had just stayed silent and 'liked.'

For as far as I could see, he had 'liked' 100s and 100s of posts that featured photos of 16-20 year old South East Asian girls, dressed in heels and stockings, basques, bras, see-thru negligees with the nipples showing, and quite a number of pictures of them naked. Clearly thought because he was only 'liking' them that no-one would notice.

It made my skin crawl, and I looked at him in a different light. When I see him coming up the road now, (and I am in the front garden,) I slip in the back garden, so I don't have to talk to him.

But yeah, you're right @Hartley99 these repugnant and vile 'landlords' don't see a THING wrong with what they're doing, (as I said in a post last night after watching the show!) And they DO think they're doing the girls a favour, letting them have a room for 'free' if they have sex with them!!! And the nerve of that one turd on the show, telling the young reporter (who was posing as a woman who wanted a room,) 'if you're not going to agree to have sex with me, then you're wasting your time, and mine!' (And he wanted her to go with him to look at the room right then!) And the one who wanted her to come to his bedroom and sleep with him on her first day, and keep her pyjamas on. Just lie in bed with him, and 'see how it goes...' VOMIT!

And the buy-a-bride cunts are the worst. As you say, repulsive-looking, sweaty, smelly, dull men who can't get a woman over here, who shell out 1000s of £££ to bring a vulnerable, poor young woman (sometimes a GIRL) over here to be his wife. It's sickening and vile, And as you say, the places advertising 'hot young Ukrainian brides' was abhorrent!

The older I get, the more revolting I realise many men are. Misogynistic, lazy, sleazy, think women are only good for cooking, sucking, and fucking, and boak at the idea of women being high achievers, being successful, and knowing more than them about anything! As I said, it's so depressing and sad that even the 'good ones' are not as 'good' as we think!

Fuck me sideways, it's 2024, and many women think they are equal and a lot more heard now, and have all these rights, and there's never been a better time to be a woman. We have not moved a fucking inch! The misogyny and hatred for women, and women being thought of as sex toys and servants to men is as rife as it was 100 years ago and beyond.

Yes yes yes I KNOW 'not all men are like that la la la...' But many ARE, and it's not good enough! Sadly I don't see it ever changing. And I just can't figure out why! WHY is it never changing? What is going wrong? They are not born this way! At what point are they turning into arseholes? #baffled

Never read the comments. That's where the crazy people live.

@Hartley99
I'm sorry, maybe I shouid have been clearer. I was responding only to the part about the women who seek out these arrangements for free rent to put themselves through college or uni.

Not someone who was threatened with being made homeless if they dont have sex, or someone fleeing their country.

This is nothing new.
I grew up in a very abusive household, not physically but mentally with a mother who was mentally unwell. So as soon as I could get away, I did.

At 17 legally I was unable to hold a tenancy in that era. However, one landlord offered to let me join an existing house share.

I turned up to view the room, only for him to tell me the rent was far more than he originally said over the phone.

He said it didn't matter as he could have an arrangement with me similar to other tenants. He also owned a shop so I assumed he meant working in his shop. No, he said, my wife and mother work there, and pointed to the bed, saying I could work there for 80% of the rent removed. He said I would be entertaining him and his brother and possibly other associates.

Literally ran out and down the road in tears.

Luckily I found out about a charity for teens escaping abuse who housed me in a flat, no strings attached. They told me I wasn't the first to be offered that for rent reduction.

Looking back, there were 4 girls in that shared house, and he had two other shared homes too. It didn't occur to me to report it and I wouldn't have known who to report it to, that and the girls involved probably wouldn't have owned up because they'd have been homeless.

That was way back in the late 90s!

Hmmm
Have you met animals? Ducks are the worst!

You KNOW you're not being over sensitive and naive. Come on.

Paying a woman for sex is rape. It's literally just rape.

This should carry the harshest legal penalty possible. It's RAPE.

I have very little time for men who 'buy' young brides from the Philippines, Thailand, Russia etc and absolutely no respect for them whatsoever. A man I know is in his early 60's, overweight, scruffy, poor personal hygiene, has recently introduced us (neighbours) to his beautiful new wife. She's tiny, very young, speaks very little English, but seems happy enough on the surface, at least. I hope she is astute enough to get away from him when she can - if that's what she wants. He's acting as if it was a wonderful holiday romance that turned into true love. Maybe it is. I am judgemental though and I see an unpleasant, predatory older single man with the wherewithal to buy himself a wife.

Disgusting.

can it really be a consensual choice if the alternative is homelessness?

Yes it is a choice to look to exchange sex for a rent-free home.

Like op says many of them are students. If you make a choice to go to uni while living outside of your means and then choose to have sex for free rent, yes this is a choice and consent has been given.

See in the situation I know of the alternative wasn't being homeless it was women who wanted to live in a nice location but not have to pay for it, the women were usually living with parents or in a room in a house share in a rotten area and fancied living in a nicer area in zone 1 central London so it seemed way more of a transaction rather than desperate women doing it because they would be homeless otherwise! Hence not reporting it as it seemed very much a two way thing.

@Notimeforaname can it really be a consensual choice if the alternative is homelessness? I think that muddies the waters massively. To me, it's always difficult if money is changing hands- for it to be fully and completely consensual it needs to be something the woman doesn't feel she 'has' to do (either to pay bills/ put a roof over her head etc etc). Where its landlord who is probably also trying to avoid appropriate landlord duties such as deposit protection, providing an above board contract etc and in the midst of a crisis leaving many priced out of much needed accommodation- then it's exploitation and it becomes harder to argue consent. The other trouble is, what if she no longer wants to have sex- does she lose her home/ is evicted so another vulnerable woman can be moved in? How does that affect her ability to fully consent?