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Hartley99 · 08/04/2024 23:16

I was just watching a documentary on the sex for rent scandal. Basically, landlords offer a room in exchange for sex. In most cases, the landlords are older men and the renters are young women. Apparently, it is common in places with large student populations - in other words, where there are lots of very young women who are struggling with debts/ loans.

The whole thing really sickened me. A journalist (herself a young woman) secretly filmed a meeting with one of these landlords. She posed as a young student who had seen his ad and wanted to know more. It made my skin crawl. He was late 40s, and a repulsive, creepy little nerd who could hardly contain his excitement. But what sickened me the most was that not only did he not think he was doing anything wrong, he thought he was being generous! He seemed to think he was doing her a favour! That seemed to be the attitude of all these men.

The other thing that got me was the comments below the video. I had naively expected people to write how vile it all was, how these men were taking advantage of the housing shortage, how they were targeting very young women, and so on. In fact, I read comment after comment (all by men) angrily defending the landlords! The general view seemed to be that it was a big fuss over nothing, that it was up to the women, and that if it was consensual it was OK and we should mind our own business. So many people were defending the landlords that I honestly began to doubt my own judgement. Is it wrong? Am I being over-sensitive and naive?

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Mamasharp97 · 11/04/2024 09:08

To be honest I’d do it. I’d be able to save £12,000 in a year, and buy a house in two 🤷‍♀️

MeTooOverHere · 11/04/2024 03:20

Onautopilot1 · 09/04/2024 00:34

I'm horrified that 10 people who have voted are OK with this...I hope they don't have daughters or sisters who may end up in this situation!

Well the question is ambiguous. Which one are we voting on?
Is it wrong? Am I being over-sensitive and naive?

Harmonypus · 11/04/2024 02:10

@cariadlet

I totally agree that this should not be happening, buy unfortunately it is.
Many of us have been desperate in some way or another, at some time in our lives, but the majority will try anything and everything rather than resorting to what is ultimately sex work, but then there are others who either hit rock bottom and see it as their only option, or there are some who see this type of sex work as a means to an end.
So yes, there are vulnerable women who feel they have no choice (which really shouldn't be happening anyway), but there are some who would actually choose to use their bodies rather than cash to pay for rent, if/where it's an option.

User893432374902zzx · 11/04/2024 01:56

Had a friend who did this a long time ago. The whole thing backfired on him badly when he got his japanese tenant pregnant.

She knew almost no English and had a 30k debt due to non payment of rent on her former residence.

He paid off her debts, married her, and supported her lazy lifestyle for many years until he died young from cancer.

Darlingx · 11/04/2024 01:42

The worst is local housing charities and associations where lone women are expected to house themselves by shacking up with a man as a way of solving their lack of housing crisis. Yes this attitude is out there in the realm. If your a childfree woman they see you tethering yourself to a guy for housing as an option so therefore u won’t need help with housing this was put to a woman I know. Rain Dogs showed a scenrio like this but with a mother on the brink of desperation which was pretty grim sadly as having a roof over your head is now not simply home but an investment . My other realisation is women being beggars with male handlers watching from shelter as they sit in the cold being lashed by rain begging for money on my local high street you report but because its women being exploited its just part and parcel of everyday life. Modern Slavery, human trafficking is thriving in many guises

Deathbyfluffy · 11/04/2024 00:23

SabreIsMyFave · 09/04/2024 00:36

Clearly got a few men on here at the moment. 🙄 God help us all if it's women thinking this shit is OK.

Why would you assume it’s all men voting that way?
I’m a man and think it’s absolutely dreadful. Most of us can see this sort of thing absolutely is not okay.

cariadlet · 11/04/2024 00:19

Harmonypus · 11/04/2024 00:15

In my opinion, I agree, this is a vile, grubby practice, but then if there weren't women prepared to provide the sex in lieu of rent, then these disgusting landlords wouldn't be able to get their grubby way.

"If there weren't desperate, vulnerable women who thought that this was the only way that they could avoid homelessness, these disgusting landlords wouldn't be able to get their grubby way."

Fixed it for you.

Harmonypus · 11/04/2024 00:15

In my opinion, I agree, this is a vile, grubby practice, but then if there weren't women prepared to provide the sex in lieu of rent, then these disgusting landlords wouldn't be able to get their grubby way.

Frangipanyoul8r · 10/04/2024 22:43

The bigger the wealth gap between rich and poor, the greater the opportunity for this kind of exploitation. It’s inequality that’s the driver, it allows for disgusting individuals to exploit others. I’m sure the gender pay gap also doesn’t help.

VaccineSticker · 10/04/2024 22:20

If we had harsher punishments in this country, we’d have less crimes. He belongs in jail, let’s see how he likes his accommodation there.

Hartley99 · 10/04/2024 22:11

bonzaitree · 10/04/2024 21:13

Are you surprised OP.

Im disgusted but nothing surprises me any more.

No, I'm not at all surprised. What does surprise me is the number of people who excuse them. I just know that if I went to the local pub at the weekend, and started a debate on this subject, someone would angrily defend the landlords. Read an article about these men online and then look at the comments section. Some of the comments are just breathtaking. And these aren't idiots. They're men who genuinely can't understand what the fuss is about.

The other thing that surprises (and sickens me) is the way these men think they're doing good. In the various documentaries and articles, some of the landlords see themselves as generous and noble. They think they're being kind by letting the girl off the rent!! In reality, of course, they're not letting her off at all. They're taking advantage of her situation.

The self-delusion of these arseholes is unbelievable. You see the same attitude with men who buy foreign wives. I remember someone telling me they knew a guy in his 60s with a pretty young Russian wife. He also had a couple of rescue dogs and used to joke that he lived in a house full of things he'd 'saved', like he was fucking Ghandi or something. In reality he was a grubby little predator who'd exploited that young woman and her wish to give her daughter a better life.

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bonzaitree · 10/04/2024 21:13

Are you surprised OP.

Im disgusted but nothing surprises me any more.

Helengreggregson · 10/04/2024 20:55

@rhinosandhippos i can understand your point, it is understandable because the alternative of being homeless is even more dangerous and scary. No one should be left in a position where they have to make a choice like that. I wouldn’t judge a woman who decided to do this however I feel that men who offer this as an option are disgusting.

sheroku · 10/04/2024 20:46

Agree that this is only going to get worse as the rise in housing costs continue to outstrip wages. The PP's story about considering sex for rent in the past is disturbing but totally understandable given the circumstances. We can only bloody hope we get a new government who isn't in the pockets of landlords.

Fanofbrianbilston · 10/04/2024 20:33

the austerity years, sanctions and housing crisis were bound to lead to this; it’s a tale as old as time and the social security net was supposed to protect us degenerating back to the days of ‘les miserables’.

Hartley99 · 10/04/2024 20:19

We ought to assume that whenever and wherever a woman is vulnerable there will be men waiting to take advantage. I didn't know this, but organisations can monitor search trends online. After the invasion of Ukraine, men began typing in things like "Ukrainian women rape porn," and "Ukrainian war brides," etc. There was a huge surge in those kinds of searches. And these were probably ordinary men with wives and kids. Then there were the men who joined various charities and offered a spare room – but only to young Ukrainian women.

Any form of sexual exploitation sickens me. As a society, we've been too lenient for too long. I have known at least six women in my life who were sexually assaulted as children – none went to the police. One was routinely raped and abused by her mother's boyfriends. Another was abused by her gran's partner. Once, he stuck his tongue down her throat in a park. She was about eight and he was an old man. A woman passing by tutted and said "you shouldn't be doing that," like he'd just thrown a crisp packet on the ground!

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Deadringer · 10/04/2024 19:53

Men have a completely different view of sex than women do, I am not saying all men are like this because they are not, but to most men sex is always a 'win', how or why it comes about is often inconsequential.

Whitewatergrafting · 10/04/2024 19:35

Disgusting, repulsive but sadly not surprising. Shock horror is it men who do this shit.
This world is in the pits.

Welshphoenix · 10/04/2024 19:35

Golden407 · 09/04/2024 04:13

As grim as this is, are they actually breaking the law?

I would think so , would it not be living off immoral earnings the same as a pimp who takes money from running a prostitute .

I work in housing and have seen a few of these cases over the years. Strangely enough when the landlords wife's notice there is no money coming in, the allegation of rent arrears are made and notices issued .
It is sickening

Liferiddle666 · 10/04/2024 19:28

@rhinosandhippos I am humbled by your honesty! And absolutely agree with you. System is f*ed

Sweetwatertaste · 10/04/2024 19:24

Disgusting!

AlwaysGinPlease · 10/04/2024 19:21

Sickening. Men like that are rapists and they don't deserve to be alive.

SpiritOfEcstasy · 10/04/2024 19:05

It happened to a friend in London. She answered an ad for a live in part time housekeeper/dog sitter. At the time she was a student and the landlord said he was away at his holiday home a lot and needed someone to take care of the dogs and house sit. And light housekeeping while he was in London. He offered a token weekly payment and room. It became obvious within weeks that there was no job this was all about the gross pervert having sex. She was lucky to be able to leave immediately but it was done very duplicitously.

rhinosandhippos · 10/04/2024 18:52

Higher education shouldn't be a privilege of selected few (middle class and white). Everyone should have the right to do it and be able to support themselves by doing "normal while studying" jobs like hospitality for example.

The real issue is the lack of affordable housing, and it's not only young students affected by this.

I'm going to be very honest and admit at one point I considered a sex for rent offer. I wasn't a student. I was in my 30s and wasn't working after a long illness. My relationship with my ex had ended and I had nowhere to go. Landlords wouldn't even consider my application the minute they found out I was on benefits.

I was very nearly homeless at the time and the homeless accomodation from the council was horrific. Regular police attendances for fights, drug problems, sexual assaults, and more. I was lucky to avoid it as in the end a friend of a friend offered me her spare room.

If I hadn't found anywhere, I think I've have chosen what was in my mind the lesser of evils. I enjoy sex and although I didn't want to be obliged to do it with someone I possibly wasn't attracted to, I saw it as better than the multiple risks being homeless. Having sex with just one man I sort of knew (as my landlord), rather than possibly being raped or violently attacked by multiple unknown men and women.

It won't help vulnerable women to simply say 'ban sex for rent' without ensuring there's better alternatives.

JohnSt1 · 10/04/2024 18:23

Andrew Tate has followers, so the comments on the video don't surprise me. 😕