To actually hate people who say bought instead of brought

En route. It should be either the original French or the English on the way.

This reminds me of another half French and half English construction for the French word enclave which in French is pronounced 'onclav' but Anglicised it's nclave (non-nasal plain n and rhyming with gave).

Instead you get the French sound on hitched to the English sound clave, resulting in onclave, from the BBC correspondent.

That's accent/dialect. In the same way that some people say 'somefing' or even 'somefink'.

I would be interested to know why people use the wrong word or pronunciation. If we exclude they were taught incorrectly and haven't thought to, or wanted to find out the correct way, do they think it is cute or interesting?

I heard Alan Bates today saying think instead of thing and it was painful as tbh I assumed it was youngsters. Having said that, Simon Cowell has been known to say somethink and as for Gary Barlow, on X factor he always said preformance instead of performance.

Thank goodness auto correct hasn't accepted any wrong spellings here!

Clearly you don't have a life that is above such things, or you wouldn't have clicked on the thread or posted.

https://go.skimresources.com?id=470X1716091&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconversation.com%2Fask-or-aks-how-linguistic-prejudice-perpetuates-inequality-175839&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mumsnet.com%2Ftalk%2Famiibeingunreasonable%2F5046076-to-actually-hate-people-who-say-bought-instead-of-brought%3Freply%3D13441041

Interesting. I don't perceive it as a racial difference as most of the people I hear saying 'aks' are white - because of where I live.

Oh to have a life where this minutiae matters.

I once had a manager who said that.

His pronunciation of "tangential" was even better (or worse, depending on how you feel about it). He used to say "tan genital", which always conjured up an image of a bloke sunbathing with his dick out.

He was incredibly intelligent (a first from an RG university, top student in his Law Society exams, brilliant constitutional lawyer, seconded to the FCO to oversee the transition of a couple of former British colonies to independence etc), but he had a real blind spot about these two words.

This can be an accent this. NZers and South Africans for example. As and Es sound the same in a lot of words.

😂😂

So you're hating on waiting on?

Got it

In my experience scientists and engineers are often not comfortable with words and not very good with the nuances of language. They may have an Oxbridge degree but still struggle with verb forms. When you think you are having a conversation with an engineer, he will suddenly jump up to start drawing on a white board or an ipad. A mathematician will switch in the middle of a sentence to his code of formulae and calculations as if his life depended on it and he cannot have any truck with words. (It's usually been 'he'.)

On the train to work I'd sometimes see an engineer I knew well and found congenial. It was funny though that I'd be enjoying our discussion of some idea or other when he'd turn over whatever paper he had and start scribbling sketching a plan or image like a man on a mission. There I was thinking we were teasing out thoughts in words and the to and fro of conversation.

Read a great article about this recently: https://theconversation.com/ask-or-aks-how-linguistic-prejudice-perpetuates-inequality-175839

You’ve literally proven my point. Yes, dyslexia also affects spoken words. Substituting similar-sounding words is common. Dyslexia goes far beyond the words on a page.

'Aks' instead of "Ask" and ALL the others. I am an unashamed pedant.

@CathbadsCloak unless it is Mick and Keith, ‘Waiting on a Friend’

I can't stand the use of 'waiting on' when surely it should be 'waiting for' as in "I'm waiting on a parcel".
And also, 'hating on'

Pretty sure that one is regional. Not great formally, fine informally on MN.

how about sat instead of sitting? eg. I was sat eating my lunch when....

It's like pretty much all of the errors discussed on this thread - they're basic stuff, that most of us learned in primary school. If that didn't stick for whatever reason it's harder to learn as an adult.

As you say it's very easy to remember, so just like bought vs brought it's a bit weird when the tone of posts discussing these errors is smug.

I could post in the same tones about the posters who ask for help with percentages, but for some reason struggling with basic numeracy is acceptable but basic literacy errors aren't.

‘On route’ instead of en route, although I guess ‘on route’ is just the English version? Or should it be ‘on THE route’ in English, or ‘on the way’? 🤷🏻‍♀️

I always have to look up bare & bear and kerb & curb, so any tricks for those are welcome.

Also I’ve recently learnt my friend says Kiev (as in chicken) as ‘key-EFF’ 😵‍💫 instead of KEY-ev. Although nowadays we’re all meant to say Keeeeeeev aren’t we? (Kyiv vs Kiev?)

Thank you for reading my anecdote in the spirit it was intended :)

But don't people realise that the rule is exactly the same as man/men, but with a 'wo' prefix?

I agree on autocorrect, though - it seems to be programmed by crazy people. The number of times it tries to change 'that' into non-existent words such as 'thag' or otherwise 'thar', which is just about never used except when sandwiched in between 'gold in them' and 'hills'!

I hear this the most in Scotland!

*Quite often in the West Midlands (particularly black country), borrow and lend are used interchangeably.

Can you borrow me a fiver? Etc.*

I think it's used everywhere but it is still wrong!

With man vs men, the change in the vowel changes the pronunciation in a way that children will understand in their first year of primary school, so it's unlikely they will be confused.

With woman vs women, the change from a to e actually changes the pronunciation of the o, with any change in the a vs e being very subtle if there is any change at all.

Much much harder to remember.

Also, autocorrect is a bugger for this one ime.