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5 week old doesn't sleep

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imablue · 08/04/2024 19:57

I am at a loss with my 5 nearly 6 week old. He refuses to sleep much during the day, I'm not getting anything done or taking care of myself whatsoever because I feel like I'm constantly holding him to soothe him. He will fall asleep in my arms but he's awake as soon as I put him down in the basket.

When he feeds, he's fussing on the bottle then afterwards he's sick and brings up some of the feed. And wriggling around constantly and grunting like he's restless. Then he seems hungry again 1-2 hours later and same issue.

I feel like I'm in a vicious cycle. I'm just not enjoying the newborn stage and feel like I'm wishing time away until things get easier.

Any tips please?

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MaryMary6589 · 08/04/2024 22:59

Yep, mine was like this too. 8 months of me constantly holding him and he then started to get easier. Huge change at around 16 months and sleep seemed to click into place for him. Just got to keep going, one day at a time. Ask for help from family and friends. Agree that the sling is a game changer. Your body is still recovering from being pregnant and giving birth. Gradually your core will get stronger and then your back should hurt less. It all just takes time.

ConsuelaHammock · 08/04/2024 22:47
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ConsuelaHammock · 08/04/2024 22:46

You could try a baby swing? Both mine loved it. Gives you 10 minutes to get something down. Then a bouncy chair and take it with you when you shower etc .
It does get easier.

Anonymouslyposting · 08/04/2024 22:45

Sounds pretty normal unfortunately, it’s a shock at first but not unusual for the newborn stage. For the first few months getting things done and doing things for yourself is a luxury that many don’t get, but it does pass quickly.

A sling saved my sanity, I never got on with fabric ones but I loved my ergo baby 360, it yours is hurting your back then maybe see if there’s a sling bank near you to try some others out and find one that works for you?

HanaJane · 08/04/2024 22:43

See if there's a sling library near you, it's where you can try a few different slings to see which works best for you then hire it for a few months.
Does he sleep in the pram? Maybe a walk would settle him and he might stay asleep in the pram for a bit when you get home.
Also worth talking to health visitor about the feeding just in case he has reflux or colic or something like that causing him to be unsettled

NoLostCause · 08/04/2024 21:15

Honestly both of mine napped in my arms (or DH's) or while moving in the sling/car/pram for the first 4-6 months. I lowered my expectations massively and just embraced watching a lot of Netflix.

WorkerBee83 · 08/04/2024 21:07

Sounds like my dd she had colic and was put on baby gaviscone. Defo have a chat with HV or GP xx

Hairspray123 · 08/04/2024 21:00

Do you use Dr Brown Bottles? We did they were a Game changer as they take in far less air.

I also found powdered formular worse. Maybe try a premade and see if it makes a difference.

Overfeeding will cause fussyness too and then vomiting, its a vicious circle, keep trying the Dummy as it does help with trapped wind.

MigGirl · 08/04/2024 20:51

Try a stretchy wrap sling one like this. https://www.boots.com/moby-elements-wrap-babycarrier-hydro-10325301?cm_mmc=bmm-buk-google-ppc--PLAs_HeroCompare---_-PMax:+UK_Smart_Shopping_Baby&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwq86wBhDiARIsAJhuphmGuakpvcoi6QGne1aVPvtj5A9N5V0TcDr_JtA052_urtxlmB4suUAaAqVeEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Other makes are available.

I use to literally wear my sling all day as you can pop baby in and out of these. I have a bad back and found one like this much better for my back as the weight is better distributed. And yes unfortunately a lot of newborns are like this and it's totally normal. Also keeping him upright may help with the wind and being sick. Often normal in a lot of newborns to.

It will get easier.

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husbandcallsmepickle · 08/04/2024 20:48

My DS was much the same when he was that age so I can totally sympathise. What really helped was DH taking over so I could nap, as well as chatting with GP/HV

CheeseSalads · 08/04/2024 20:43

Op I had the same with my eldest. Was also convinced she had reflux as she was so unsettled etc but really it was just how she was as a baby. A few things that may help. Their awake window is very, very short at this age. Maybe 30/45/60 mins only. After that, they get very wired and cranky and it sounds like you have a baby that won’t just fall asleep when tired so I would try and be getting him off to nap or sleep after a feed in a short awake time.

Have you tried white noise? I had an app with various noises on - one of mine particularly like the “bustling market” noise so doesn’t have to be the standard white noise sound! But play it loud.

Slings as others have suggested - try and find a sling library, you can try a few and also get the fit checked.

It’s hard to get baby in a routine at this age but do try and get yourself in one for things like getting washed, dressed. It doesn’t matter if he cries while you shower, you must take care of yourself.

Merryoldgoat · 08/04/2024 20:40

They always fob you off @imablue

I had the same - my baby clearly had a lactose intolerance and reflux and they just ignored me.

all of his fussiness and wind and discomfort disappeared nearly overnight when we put lactase in his formula.

Try some Colief.

I basically sat on the sofa for 6 months. It was very hard.

rainbowtinsel · 08/04/2024 20:39

Oh sorry forgot to say my DC was always being sick…..it wasn’t forceful and they were gaining weight….some babies are sick a lot. Again it’s normal. Them being in serious discomfort and not gaining weight is not. Grim to deal with tho. Muslins are your friend.

rainbowtinsel · 08/04/2024 20:34

This is totally normal. Sorry no one will have told you or prepared you for it.

its okay to find it hard…but you really shouldn’t be expecting to do much….this is your job now, and at present you’re in the intense high stakes part of a project 🤣….again it’s a shame we can’t be more truthful and properly prepare women.

  1. Don’t be expecting to do too much, but try;
  2. Slings are game changing, if you’re struggling with comfort do not just buy a new one…..go to a Sling Library. I’m certain you’ll have one close by. Take your current sling and they might help you get it comfortable or suggest some others, the whole point of it is you can borrow the ones they have on the library to try find one that works for you and they will help make sure you wearing it so it’s comfortable
  3. If they’re crying whilst you shower pop them in the baby bouncer in front of the shower so they can see you and you can talk to them - if you can’t avoid it fine but there are lots of things to try before you do this. You don’t need a fancy bouncer either
  4. In the Moses do you use a baby sleeping bag at night?….If not get some, if you do start using it durning the day as well as at night when you put them down in the Moses sometimes helps for them to feel nice and secure physically.
  5. Dummy
Notsureaboutittoday · 08/04/2024 20:29

imablue · 08/04/2024 20:08

I do have a sling but I find it uncomfortable to wear after a while, my back really hurts. As far as I can see the fit is correct but maybe another sling would help so I'll look into that.

He's not great at getting wind up either to be honest. We have recently changed his milk from Cow and Gate to Kendamil but at the minute I'm not convinced by it

Kendamil is amazing stick with it

Sounds like reflux though - try Colief

Also possible tongue tie - get it double checked.

IOYOYO · 08/04/2024 20:28

Hi op, congratulations as others have said, and also, I really feel you. Newborn days are hard - I found them really tricky, and it did shift, but it doesn’t mean it’s okay at the time.

I’ve got two bigger kids now, but I’ve been listening to the Child series on BBC sounds and it’s got so much amazing info as to what’s happening during pregnancy and after babies are born. I wonder if episodes from here might be handy with some extra insight into what the hell happens in these early days!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001xl5g?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

If you’re struggling (I did so much!) I’d really encourage you to talk to someone - your gp, health visitor, partner, friend or family… it’s a time like no other and it can be very hard and lonely, even with all the good bits.

good luck!

Oh, and I think they often start to smile soon, it definitely helps.

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Rainingcatsandmice · 08/04/2024 20:27

imablue · 08/04/2024 20:19

I wouldn't say it's a severe amount but it's still a fair bit of the feed coming back up. He hasn't been weighed for about 3 weeks but he was gaining at that point

I would say keep going back to your GP or health visitor especially if you feel it isn’t quite right. My son had a pyloric stenosis causing his vomiting but I was fobbed off so many times by GP. Pyloric stenosis is very common particularly in first born boys but I’d never heard of it. His vomiting though became increasingly forceful and he’d be hungry again shortly after being sick. He also started to lose weight.

imablue · 08/04/2024 20:19

Rainingcatsandmice · 08/04/2024 20:17

How sick is he? Mine was very similar but vomiting was projectile after every feed. Is he gaining weight?

I wouldn't say it's a severe amount but it's still a fair bit of the feed coming back up. He hasn't been weighed for about 3 weeks but he was gaining at that point

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Vvvvvvvvv · 08/04/2024 20:19

It sounds like he has silent reflux, my DD was the same, baby omeprazole really helped, I'd speak to GP or health visitor x

imablue · 08/04/2024 20:18

He does have a dummy but he constantly spits it out. I have tried different brands of dummy but he just doesn't seem to like it.

I'm convinced he has reflux, but when I mentioned it to the GP she basically fobbed me off and said it's because his digestive system is still maturing. Which I understand to a degree, but I still feel like something isn't right

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Rainingcatsandmice · 08/04/2024 20:17

How sick is he? Mine was very similar but vomiting was projectile after every feed. Is he gaining weight?

SouthLondonMum22 · 08/04/2024 20:16

Let him cry whilst you shower, eat etc your needs are important too and it won’t hurt him.

Could he possibly have reflux?

NoliteTeBastardesCarborundorum · 08/04/2024 20:15

Can't believe nobody has said dummy yet? Absolute game changer for staying asleep.

My first was like this and the other thing that helps is changing your mentality to jot being able to put them down+enjoy the exercise/podcasts while baby is in pram/sling; and also build in time where they nap on you on sofa with remote and snacks ready; same applies for doing life admin. It does get easier and after a year they will just be having one nap at lunchtime!

Maneandfeathers · 08/04/2024 20:14

It does eventually get better, hang in there. I’ve had 3 and they have all been similar at this age.

Have you got a sling? I found putting them in there meant I got a bit more done. Other than that I used it as an opportunity to watch lots of box sets!

Also have him checked for reflux. DC3 was the same as yours and anti-reflux milk saved my sanity!

Sparklesocks · 08/04/2024 20:14

It’s really tough. Try a sling as others have suggested. I didn’t enjoy the newborn stage either, I much preferred when smiles/laughs etc started and baby got bigger. I think there’s a lot of pressure to enjoy the newborn stage, and yes the cuddles etc are lovely but I think more people than you realise feel the same way. And a lot parents look back with a nostalgia twinged lens and forget the bad bits!

It’s absolutely fine not to enjoy it and think it’s hard. Have you got anyone who can relieve you for a few hours and come watch the baby while you catch up on sleep? Things seem a lot more manageable when you’ve had a decent snooze.