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Ostracised by group of friends - blaming the Childminder

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springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 19:33

I met my friend ‘Janet’ at the GP surgery when our daughters were babies. Janet’s daughter a few months older.
I was new to the neighbourhood and Janet introduced me to a lot of mums.
I used to be invited to regular outings, coffee mornings, afternoon teas, picnics, birthdays, play dates, nights out without children etc etc

Fast forward Janet goes back to work full time and one of the mums becomes Janet’s (unregistered) childminder.
Nothing changes except I only meet Janet at the weekens / her days off. I still hang out with the group.

Fast forward the other day when some of us go to a trip to the museum by coach organised by the church.
The childminder is there with her own child and Janet’s daughter. All good.

Janet’s daughter is being potty trained. On the way back she needs to go to the toilet but no toilet in the coach. I was sitted on the other side of the corridor, paralel to the childminder. I offered a nappy she refused. All good. All the time she is comforting Janet’s daughter and encouraging her to hold.
The the girl asks for her pacifier. The childminder says no as the pacifier is only for sleeping time.

We get back to the church and the childminder takes the girl to the toilet immediatelly. Happy ending. Phew! No accidents.

Fast forward the following week and Janet is at mine for a playdate. We get talking about the trip to the museum and she comments what a great job the childminder is doing with the potty training. I agree. The Janet says that the childminder is so attuned to her daughter’s need that she even offered and gave the girl a pacifier to add some comfort and take the girl’s mind off the urge to wee.

I must have made a confused face, Janet asked me what was wrong.

I explained I was right there and told my version of the story. Janet said that it was weird as she is not very strict about the pacifier. Then she said she would ask her daughter what happened.

We changed the subject and playdate carried on as normal.

Fast forward a few days, I realised I was removed from the whatsapp group and the childminder and the majority of other mums removed me from their FB and IG.

My friendship with Janet remains the same but I am not ready to ask her or the few mums who didn’t ‘cancek’ me if they know / heard anything… or if Janet comfronted the childminder or heard her daughter’s side of the story (and how reliable can a toddler’s story be)?

Feeling lonely now but I will start working soon so I will have less time to meet anyway, but it is just sad that I’m now out of the group and god knows what is the gossip circulating about me.

OP posts:
BobbyBiscuits · 09/04/2024 00:51

It sounds madly pedantic for you to look shocked over the pacifier. You saw it was mentioned but not used, but she held in her pee till a bathroom, maybe because of the pacifier being offered after the event, or maybe not. I fail to see why you would care. It seems like you dislike the childminder? That one incident alone seems too much for them all to block you though.
Why not ask Janet if she knows what's up? Would you be prepared to apologise? Is it even worth it?

raspberryberet7 · 09/04/2024 00:29

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 20:45

Not really sure why you got yourself involved, tbh

This. Very odd

MargaretThursday · 09/04/2024 00:07

How confident are you that you are talking about the same incident?

It could be that she has offered the pacifier at a different time but didn't this I e because she didn't have it or she knew the child could cope this time without and didn't want her to start using it as an excuse to have it at all times.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 08/04/2024 23:32

You need to take your courage in both hands and ask 1) Janet and
2) anyone else you think might still be friendly - what exactly is going on and why have you been blocked by the whole group? Its real "Mean Girl" stuff.

The Childminder lied to Janet, quite an unnecessary lie too. What you said to Janet doesn't seem enough for everyone to block you like that, so the likelihood is that the childminder has accused you of something bad enough to be blocked for to discredit you. I think Janet owes you an explanation and at least tell you what you've been accused of.

At least if you know what's been said you have a chance to defend yourself and decide what to do next, otherwise if you appear to keep silent it will just be accepted that what ever it is, is true.

Sadly it will probably be difficult to change people's minds, they sound very cliquey - Its probably a good idea to try to make friends outside of the school circle, and find new interests as they sound like a very fickle and gossipy bunch of people. If you've indulged in that yourself, that might hold part of the answer for the blocking. If not it will probably be better for your sanity to make new friends.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 08/04/2024 23:04

They all sound so childish and just keep your friendship with Janet and see how things play out. Sounds like they are all school children. Try not to overthink it all but bet childminder was pissed off that you told Janet the truth without thinking it would create such a big issue. Child minder wrong for telling all the group and is in the wrong.

TheSnowyOwl · 08/04/2024 22:11

Are you sure this is the reason why a whole group of adults have removed you from social media and their chats?

CommentNow · 08/04/2024 21:54

Janet is still your friend so I expect she raised it with the childminder who denied it and then the childminder removed you and said youd been lying.

Janet doesnt know either way but probably doesnt feel able to change her whole childcare routine at the moment over what she is considering a white lie by childminder so it's more convenient to ignore it. Shes still friends with you.

Start being an organiser, arrange fun things with Janet and one of the friendlier mums who hasnt deleted you and start working or building up a small group. Do not ever discuss The Incident. Eventually Janet and childminder will drift when Janet doesnt need her anymore.

HalebiHabibti · 08/04/2024 21:47

But if someone says something weird, then your face changes, then they notice and say "WHAT?" while staring at you anxiously.... I don't think "Oh, nothing" will cut it in that situation. In fact when I've tried it people have got angry at me for not being honest with them 🙄

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:45

saltinesandcoffeecups · 08/04/2024 21:27

I just want to know how other people remember details like this of other people’s lives. I mean even if I vaguely remembered this interaction I wouldn’t count on myself to be paying close enough attention to claim the other person was lying.

Hell I forgot more time than I care to admit the purpose I walked into a room for.

I think in this case is because I need to start potty training and reducing pacifier too and I was rooting for the girl to not have an accident.
It was a journey on a coach after a fun day trip, so out of routine.

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BettyShagter · 08/04/2024 21:44

Just because you made a face, doesn't mean you had to spill the beans and stir it up.

You could've just left it.

Chocyaddict · 08/04/2024 21:44

I’m more concerned about the use of an unregistered childminder. It is illegal. Please report this to your LA/Ofsted. There is a reason they are not registered! Huge red flag.

cheesedome · 08/04/2024 21:43

They sound like a load of arseholes. Why on earth would you have to go along with a lie that a childminder told about how she treats your friend’s child? And it’s not like you deliberately went to tell your friend, it came up in conversation. If she hadn’t have lied then she wouldn’t have had anything to worry about. You’re definitely better off out of it. They’re petty and immature.

SergeantDawkins · 08/04/2024 21:41

BananaSpanner · 08/04/2024 20:47

Why did you need to give a version of the story for such a trivial incident. It meant literally nothing. It’s obviously caused a bit of friction between Janet and childminder and everyone has shot the messenger. Very extreme reaction by them. Possibly more to it? Have you gossiped before?

To be fair it’s not gossip, it’s telling someone the truth about the way their child is being cared for. It would be a weird secret to keep.

TillyKister · 08/04/2024 21:37

I wouldn't be happy if a child minder lied about 'comforting' my child, if they hadn't.

Why the need to lie?

Surely it would have been better to tell the child's Mum the truth? If this unregistered child minder is lying about something so trivial, what else does she like about?

For what it's worth OP I think you're better off out of these groups. Breeding grounds for gossip and tittle tattle most of them.

nameshame24 · 08/04/2024 21:33

TheYearOfSmallThings · 08/04/2024 21:09

It all sounds like a fuss about not much, but I wouldn't have told Janet that her other friend lied to her. It was such a trivial thing, and I can see why she and her other friends thought you were being spiteful and making trouble. Also I can picture the face you were making, and I feel there was an element of "I know something you don't know...ask me! Make me tell you!" and enjoying tattling.

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nameshame24 · 08/04/2024 21:31

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 20:45

Not really sure why you got yourself involved, tbh

Tbf if I was in the same situation as OP I would have told my friend the truth. And as a parent I would hope that any of my friends in that situation would do the same.

HalebiHabibti · 08/04/2024 21:29

I too am unable to make my face align with whatever the chosen narrative is OP. If someone says something that is a flat lie then my face will show it. I sometimes wish it didn't (I generally realise afterwards that my face has been Wrong) but there it is!

What a weird thing for them to fall out with you over.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 08/04/2024 21:27

I just want to know how other people remember details like this of other people’s lives. I mean even if I vaguely remembered this interaction I wouldn’t count on myself to be paying close enough attention to claim the other person was lying.

Hell I forgot more time than I care to admit the purpose I walked into a room for.

2chocolateoranges · 08/04/2024 21:23

Op my face would have told the same story as you. So I would have done exactly what you had done.

you don’t need friends like them, however I’d definitely speak to your friend Janet.

Poppalina37 · 08/04/2024 21:23

You've had a lucky escape!

Grown ass women removing you off Facebook.... oh please!

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 21:21

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:20

I’m always honest and I don’t lie
Is that what you mean?

But you didn’t need to lie. You didn’t need to say anything at all.

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:20

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 21:17

Are you always so black and white?

I’m always honest and I don’t lie
Is that what you mean?

OP posts:
BusyCM · 08/04/2024 21:19

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:17

the point is, the childminder told Janet that she offered the pacifier to comfort the child when in reality she didn’t offer and even denied

why make up stories?

but anyway, I guess Janet likes and trusts the CM so none of my business

however if I’m asked for facts, not sure I can collude with lies

Contrary to your earlier statement, it seems you absolutely do like drama!

springyellowrose · 08/04/2024 21:18

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 21:16

If it was something which didn’t concern me; quite easily.

Life is so much simpler when you stay in your own lane.

Agree and lesson learned

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MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 21:17

Are you always so black and white?