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Neither parent wants to live with their child fulltime what happens?

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WhatWillHappenToTheDC · 08/04/2024 17:21

It’s a relatives child.

The DC is 10. Has lived with the RP, their mother alone since they were 2. Seeing NRP Father for 2 nights EOWend and half the school holidays.

NRP agreed to have DC over Easter Holidays fulltime so RP could have some work done on the house.

RP has now said they do not want DC home and want to trial a switch of residency for awhile or wants to do 50/50 arrangement. NRP also does not want DC fulltime and wants to go back to previous arrangement.

Social Services are involved now due to the arguments and DCs school reporting it, but what will happen if neither parent wants to live with their child full time? Is there some sort of foster care where parents can still see DC?

I can't put myself forward to have the child as I live too far from them. Parents live around 7 miles from each other.

OP posts:
BathroomReDesign · 08/04/2024 20:51

Dad is a dick and a Disney dad who doesn’t want any responsibility. The child will know when they grow up that dad didn’t want to see them more than twice a month. Dad could do 2 days a week and that would help. The mum is doing something drastic and I applaud her for doing so to call him out

Iwasafool · 08/04/2024 20:48

WhatWillHappenToTheDC · 08/04/2024 17:29

@MrsPS3 I think mum will crack, I am her relative. She loves her DC more than anything in the world but is under a hell of pressure and feels that dad could step up more given he lives so close and due to where they live still technically within the catchment of the DCs school.

She's got a funny way of showing how much she loves him. The father should do his share but I can't fathom a mother letting her child know that he isn't wanted. That poor poor child. My mother was a widow with 3 kids, no one has us weeks or half the holidays but she never threatened us with foster care.

Lesina · 08/04/2024 20:47

This is utterly heartbreaking

oakleaffy · 08/04/2024 20:44

Bassetlover · 08/04/2024 17:27

Well that's a sure fire way to fuck your kid up.

Absolutely.

It's so utterly selfish.

For social services to be involved, - it must be pretty serious.

Children are perceptive, and this poor child will know that neither parent wants them.

Anxiouslump · 08/04/2024 20:43

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 08/04/2024 20:30

"Parent" is not a title.

Parents are ordinary people who try their best, mostly.

You don't know what does on in the mother's life and while the situation is awful for the child involved it's only an arsehole would judge.

Parent is a role.
It is a role for life, one they both willingly chose, and now seem to be feeling fed up of.
That poor, poor child.

MississippiAF · 08/04/2024 20:41

They’re both absolutely awful. And no, the burnt out mother doesn’t get a pass either.

oakleaffy · 08/04/2024 20:37

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 08/04/2024 20:30

"Parent" is not a title.

Parents are ordinary people who try their best, mostly.

You don't know what does on in the mother's life and while the situation is awful for the child involved it's only an arsehole would judge.

No, I judge because when my husband left, he was living his own life, and wouldn't see son {a well behaved child}

I bloody well WILL judge.

World's tiniest violin for a 'mother' who wants rid of her child because she works and has health issues and wants a rest?

Cry me a river for a dumping mother.

I have zero sympathy - only with the needs of their poor child.

DoreenonTill8 · 08/04/2024 20:35

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 08/04/2024 20:30

"Parent" is not a title.

Parents are ordinary people who try their best, mostly.

You don't know what does on in the mother's life and while the situation is awful for the child involved it's only an arsehole would judge.

No, only an arsehole would say, 'well you've got one shit parent and I'm going to throw a strop now as it's not faair' honestly fucking shitbags pair of them.

oakleaffy · 08/04/2024 20:34

fourelementary · 08/04/2024 20:11

Nope. She doesn’t “love him more than anything in the world” as she is making him feel unwanted and highlighting that his own father cba being a parent. It’s her job to protect her son from that shit- not shove him towards it! This is coming from a previously single mum whose kids dad left literally as he “didn’t want to be a dad”… he had the kids maybe twice a year when his parents took them all away, paid minimal CSA money (pretended he was unemployed etc)… so yeah I know what it feels like to be the one doing everything and that was with two kids. But I would never ever have made the choices she has- they weren’t a burden to be offloaded.
I would be disgusted with this behaviour from any relative.

Same here.

My ex husband was hopeless ,I asked my solicitor about a court making him see son more, and solicitor said no court would ever force a parent to see a child.

It's deeply hurtful for children.

The mother here IF she truly loved her child wouldn't be wanting to foist him off with Dad.

It's annoying when a parent won't see the child - but that's life for a lot of divorced parents.

TuesdayWhistler · 08/04/2024 20:33

I want to slap those parents with a *fluffy cushion

That's all I have to say.

They both need to get a grip and realise what absolute pair of *lovely human beings they are.

*Words used may not be the true reflection of actual thoughts. Actual thoughts may get account deleted.

Underwatersally · 08/04/2024 20:31

Wow, both parents are shits in this situation.

Im a single parent and have an 8 year old and 10 year old with significant SEN and I work full time.

Their dad doesn’t do much I’m lucky if he consistently sees them EOW for 6 months in a row to be honest and my closest family member is a 3 hour round trip away. So I have very little sympathy to mums ‘stress’ to be honest.
It sounds like run of the mill parenting to me.

Children aren’t hobbies that you can dip in and out of. Surely they both thought when they were having this child ‘what happens if I end up as a single parent?’

I think both parents need to grow the fuck up before they cause this poor child long term damage

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 08/04/2024 20:30

oakleaffy · 08/04/2024 20:25

''Mum thinks there should be more contact between the child and father and feels like she does everything for said child while father gets all the fun so she either wants a switch for awhile or 50/50 so it's more fair.
^^
Dad wants to keep the status quo and stick with previous arrangement of Every Other Weekend for 2 nights.''

My Goodness, this is appalling.

The parents are not worthy of the title ''Parent''.

Poor child.

Both parents sound selfish arseholes.

Step up and be a PARENT.

"Parent" is not a title.

Parents are ordinary people who try their best, mostly.

You don't know what does on in the mother's life and while the situation is awful for the child involved it's only an arsehole would judge.

Anxiouslump · 08/04/2024 20:30

WhatWillHappenToTheDC · 08/04/2024 17:31

@CammyChameleon Mum has a physical condition and works full time, she feels like she puts DC into childcare more than she sees them, if it was 50/50 she could work on the nights DC is with their dad and then see DC more, so it'd be more fair.

Hm, yes except earlier you didn’t say that she wants 50/50 so she can see her child more, you said it was because she feels she does everything for them and it’s unfair that dad gets “all the fun”. Sounds more like she has had enough parenting and wants a break. Is this child particularly hard work?

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/04/2024 20:30

Sockmate123 · 08/04/2024 17:26

What does RP stand?

Resident parent, I think. The one the child lives with

AgentJohnson · 08/04/2024 20:30

It sounds like the mother thinks she can bluff her way into getting dad to step up. I suspect Dad will call her bluff and hand the child to SS which will force the mother to back down.

MiltonNorthern · 08/04/2024 20:26

TheShellBeach · 08/04/2024 17:23

If there is no relative who can take the child, SS will find a foster carer.

No they bloody won't. The parents will need to sort their lives out and look after their child.

Medschoolmum · 08/04/2024 20:26

Tandora · 08/04/2024 20:12

oh ok thanks for putting us all straight . I’ll remember this next time I’m totally burnt out and ready to demand my reluctant DP take the kids off my hands for a while so I can work/ do life admin/ clean/ tidy/ cook/ rest.
Instead of asking for a desperately needed break, I’ll remind myself I’m a shitty parent and a despicable person and attempt to soldier on…

PS OP clarified the communication about this between the parents was over email and not in front of kid.

Edited

Yeah, because asking your partner to take the kids out for an hour or two is exactly the same as neither parent wanting to live with the child.

And whether or not the arguments have taken place in front of the child or not, the mother has decided that she wants her child to spend half of the week, every week, with a parent who has made it abundantly clear that he doesn't want them. Would you be happy with that for your children?

Also, does social services get involved when you ask your "reluctant" partner to look after his kids for a couple of hours? Thought not.

XelaM · 08/04/2024 20:25

Tandora · 08/04/2024 18:02

This. People on this thread are being so unfair to mum. Drawing an equivalence between the two parents, calling them both shit and shameworthy, is beyond wrong and unjust. Mum just wants (needs!) some help from dad so she can spend more and better quality time with her son.

Whatever.

I have an absolutely terrible ex-husband who disappears for years (despite living in the same city as us) and has never paid any maintenance since my daughter was a baby (she is now 14). I work full time and do everything for my daughter. It would never even enter my head to send her away to her useless father to teach him a lesson or "make him step up". I love my daughter more than anything and she's not a piece of property to pass around when I'm tired.

Mother is just as shit as father.

oakleaffy · 08/04/2024 20:25

''Mum thinks there should be more contact between the child and father and feels like she does everything for said child while father gets all the fun so she either wants a switch for awhile or 50/50 so it's more fair.
^^
Dad wants to keep the status quo and stick with previous arrangement of Every Other Weekend for 2 nights.''

My Goodness, this is appalling.

The parents are not worthy of the title ''Parent''.

Poor child.

Both parents sound selfish arseholes.

Step up and be a PARENT.

Devonshiregal · 08/04/2024 20:22

WhatWillHappenToTheDC · 08/04/2024 17:31

@CammyChameleon Mum has a physical condition and works full time, she feels like she puts DC into childcare more than she sees them, if it was 50/50 she could work on the nights DC is with their dad and then see DC more, so it'd be more fair.

Eh? You can’t just “not want” your own child because the dad is shit? What if the dad wasn’t around because he died? She’s not a child, you don’t get to just stomp your feet and say it’s not fair. So what the dad is taking the easy life? Well that sucks sure, bitch about it. Feel resentful. Don’t abandon your kid

DoreenonTill8 · 08/04/2024 20:18

Tandora · 08/04/2024 20:12

oh ok thanks for putting us all straight . I’ll remember this next time I’m totally burnt out and ready to demand my reluctant DP take the kids off my hands for a while so I can work/ do life admin/ clean/ tidy/ cook/ rest.
Instead of asking for a desperately needed break, I’ll remind myself I’m a shitty parent and a despicable person and attempt to soldier on…

PS OP clarified the communication about this between the parents was over email and not in front of kid.

Edited

Do you honestly think that it'll have reached the level of involving ss and the school also having concerns that the child won't know about all this shit?

5128gap · 08/04/2024 20:17

Beezknees · 08/04/2024 20:04

She hasn't said that though. You said that.

You're quite right. The OP said she's 'under a hell of a lot of pressure' barely sees her child due to her work hours and has a physical health condition. Absolutely nothing there to suggest the woman may be tired in the slightest. I just made it up.

stayathomer · 08/04/2024 20:12

Ten?! Ffs

Tandora · 08/04/2024 20:12

Medschoolmum · 08/04/2024 18:06

The OP has said that the DC's school has involved Social Services "because of the arguments" so I'm guessing that the child is well aware that he is unwanted by either parent.

Unbelievable that you can say "good for the mum". Of course it isn't fair that the child has a shitty father and that she has ended up doing all of the work, but that isn't the child's fault, and it is despicable to make your own child feel so unloved and unwanted.

And frankly, even if the child is blissfully unaware of what is happening between his parents, what kind of mother wants to pack her child off for half of the week to a man who clearly doesn't love or want him?

If you aren't prepared to parent alone, then you shouldn't have children as far as I'm concerned. It isn't fair to bring them into the world unless you're willing to step up...regardless of how "unfair" the situation might be, you owe it to the child to put their needs first.

oh ok thanks for putting us all straight . I’ll remember this next time I’m totally burnt out and ready to demand my reluctant DP take the kids off my hands for a while so I can work/ do life admin/ clean/ tidy/ cook/ rest.
Instead of asking for a desperately needed break, I’ll remind myself I’m a shitty parent and a despicable person and attempt to soldier on…

PS OP clarified the communication about this between the parents was over email and not in front of kid.

fourelementary · 08/04/2024 20:11

WhatWillHappenToTheDC · 08/04/2024 17:29

@MrsPS3 I think mum will crack, I am her relative. She loves her DC more than anything in the world but is under a hell of pressure and feels that dad could step up more given he lives so close and due to where they live still technically within the catchment of the DCs school.

Nope. She doesn’t “love him more than anything in the world” as she is making him feel unwanted and highlighting that his own father cba being a parent. It’s her job to protect her son from that shit- not shove him towards it! This is coming from a previously single mum whose kids dad left literally as he “didn’t want to be a dad”… he had the kids maybe twice a year when his parents took them all away, paid minimal CSA money (pretended he was unemployed etc)… so yeah I know what it feels like to be the one doing everything and that was with two kids. But I would never ever have made the choices she has- they weren’t a burden to be offloaded.
I would be disgusted with this behaviour from any relative.