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To throw DD's things in the bin!

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ooerrrr · 07/04/2024 17:32

Am beyond exasperated with DD (16) - her room is a shit hole and I mean a TOTAL shit hole.

Filthy clothes everywhere, on floor, under bed, stuffed back in with clean clothes. Blood stained knickers!

Food and wrappers everywhere, drinking glasses - 2 of which were smashed.
Make up literally everywhere, tops of it all, marked all over bedding

She is doing her GCSES this month and there is no possible way she can revise in that mess. School work tossed everywhere, random sheets of work crumpled and torn.

In top of it all she constantly takes my things - have found 2 pairs of my trainers with laces missing (she uses them as belts 😡) perfume under bed, used up and missing its lid, my make up ruined.

I asked, pleaded, threatened, too many times and I lost the plot this afternoon. When I went in there to get something I stood in some broken glass. I retrieved everything that was mine andthen proceeded to get a load of bin bags and throw everything that was broken, dirty, clearly not given a shit about in bin bags.
There are 5 full bags which are waiting to be put out for rubbish.

She is a Shein addict so buys more and more stuff but never looks after things.

I am not particularly house proud but I have to draw the line somewhere.

Waiting for shit to hit the fan when she gets back from work....

OP posts:
StMarieforme · 09/04/2024 17:33

Quitelikeit · 07/04/2024 17:46

What a dirty little toad!

you did the right thing!

In the future (my tip) is to pick EVERYTHING up off the floor, get the brush and get everything from under the bed and Dump it all on the bed. Then clean and hoover around it.

confiscate phone/ipad

return it only when the room has been tidied.

rinse.repeat

You just called a 16 year old girl a dirty little toad?

Good grief.

StMarieforme · 09/04/2024 17:32

Superduperuper · 07/04/2024 17:43

YABVU. Way to ruin your relationship with your daughter. This kind of thing will stay with her forever. I would be rushing to put it all back right now if I were you. You are the adult, and she needs your support.

Totally agree.

30yearoldvirgin · 09/04/2024 17:26

Wow! Rather than rampaging in, could you try supporting her? You know, like a parent…. 😬🤦🏻‍♀️

mathanxiety · 09/04/2024 17:22

BlackeyedSusan · 08/04/2024 21:45

Because GCSE season is extremely stressful.

After exams, fair enough, but during exams kids need extra support and understanding.

I disagree.

Kids who are used to the expectation of getting a lot done every day tend to get it all done. They learn self-discipline and time management, and to prioritise.

Kids who are cosseted and allowed or made to focus solely on their all-important studies can often end up failing to maximize their grades.

PrincessOlga · 09/04/2024 17:16

Please don't flame me, but I rather like people who "couldn't care less" and are hopelessly unorganised! I especially like her blase approach to her schoolwork. I think it is just because I am actually quite old and I have had experience with totalitarian regimes and their longer history. So I like those who naturally "rebel" and also those who simply cannot be herded...

I do appreciate it must be exasperating for you, of course, while doing well in your exams is an important investment for the future. But I still think those who cannot or do not conform are the "salt of the earth". I know this is the wrong approach to have; please do not flame me!!

No1toldmeaboutit · 09/04/2024 16:53

YANBU - there should be a bare minimum she should be doing. Bringing dishes down, putting rubbish in the bin and putting dirty clothes in the washing basket for them to be washed. If she wants to make a mess of her stuff then that’s up to her but I would expect this as a minimum.

i would also not be allowing her to take my stuff if she was going to disrespect it.

my dad did this to us when we were younger and I don’t hate it for it either so don’t listen to what other people are saying.

good luck OP

KSJR · 09/04/2024 16:41

No I’m sorry but she is 16 not 6, let her hit the roof. When she can afford to replace the things she breaking or the carpet /bedding she is ruining then maybe she can have more of a say. I think you have been more than reasonable. I would take her phone/ipad off her until it’s done. She wants to act like a child she can be treated like one. I am sure it won’t end up with her in therapy or hating you as other people have said. I was made to clean my room and look after things when I was younger and I don’t hate my parents for it or need therapy.

Emmz1510 · 09/04/2024 16:33

I think what’s needed here is firmness but also kindness. To be honest I’d be worried about the mental health of a teen whose room was this bad, particularly with exams coming up.
Sit down with her. Tell her you are prepared to help her gut it one last time but after that things have got to change.
Decide what you can reasonably let go- you probably have to pick your battles. Letting her get her own clothes and make up that she has bought into a mess is her lookout. She’ll have no clean clothes and her friends will tease her, natural consequences. She’ll soon learn to get into a routine of doing laundry. And she will do her own laundry including bedding that she has messed with makeup. Ditto with studying. Provide what support you can but ultimately it’s down to her to get organised and find a system that works for her. Other things are non- negotiable. She must not take your stuff. You will charge her for anything that is lost/damaged/not returned within a reasonable time. Better yet, get a lock on your door. Get her some plastic cups and plates until she can learn to take care of glasses and not endanger herself, other family members and the poor dog! I would be forbidding her from having food and drink in there until she can learn to be responsible.

Popettypop · 09/04/2024 16:24

Craftier · 08/04/2024 18:53

... And which animals live in a pigsty?

That’s not the same ffs!!!

Nanny0gg · 08/04/2024 21:55

BlackeyedSusan · 08/04/2024 21:45

Because GCSE season is extremely stressful.

After exams, fair enough, but during exams kids need extra support and understanding.

Having coped with GCEs myself and GCSEs with my children I think she can spare the time.
And revising will be easier in a clean clear room

BlackeyedSusan · 08/04/2024 21:45

Nanny0gg · 08/04/2024 14:14

Why? She's clearly able to hold down a job. She made the mess, she can sort through the crap

Because GCSE season is extremely stressful.

After exams, fair enough, but during exams kids need extra support and understanding.

Craftier · 08/04/2024 19:14

Nanny0gg · 08/04/2024 19:08

It's really not the same

I disagree.

Nanny0gg · 08/04/2024 19:08

Craftier · 08/04/2024 18:53

... And which animals live in a pigsty?

It's really not the same

Craftier · 08/04/2024 18:53

Nanny0gg · 08/04/2024 00:40

She didn't call her a pig

She called the room a pigsty which is not unreasonable if it's disgusting

... And which animals live in a pigsty?

Moreorlessmentallystable · 08/04/2024 18:16

Superduperuper · 07/04/2024 18:31

Okay. There’s ways to do that though without throwing her belongings in the same space that rubbish goes

Yeah and the OP says she already tried many other ways,including "asking nicely"...she shouldn't need to ask, at 16 she should keep her room tidy , it's hardly time consuming to keep on top of 1 room!

CammyChameleon · 08/04/2024 14:27

I'd sort between the irreparably broken things and the stuff that's dirty, and tell her to help you clean the dirty things. To wash the laundry, scrub the gunk on the carpet, etc.

Tell her how shocked and upset you were to stand on the broken glass, that the dog was there could have cut himself on it too, that he could've eaten a food that was bad for him/swallowed food packaging and that you might not have realised in order to take him to the vet.

Then ask her to confide in you if things are getting on top so that you can help before it gets bad. It's easy to let things go, and harder to decide where to start when they're out of control.

Edit: I'd also tell her how much your wrecked stuff is, and that any more of that and she will be expected to replace it with her money.

Nanny0gg · 08/04/2024 14:14

BlackeyedSusan · 08/04/2024 10:51

She's doing exams. This is an intensely stressful time for her.

Keep the stuff in the bin bags and help her sort through it .

Why? She's clearly able to hold down a job. She made the mess, she can sort through the crap

summersolstice43 · 08/04/2024 12:55

Heres a tip: wild rice looks like mouse poo, maybe leave some on some of her clothes or in her bed and let her know she needs to sort the mess out as mice have moved in.

ClairemacL · 08/04/2024 12:49

YANBU at all, she clearly has far too much stuff if you collected five bin bags worth of items she hasn’t looked after!

Georgyporky · 08/04/2024 12:32

gamerchick · 07/04/2024 17:54

You need to put a lockable door knob on your bedroom door OP. It'll stop her helping herself.

As for her room, you do need to just shut the door on it all.

I agree, leave her to wallow in her own shit.

Isittimeformynapyet · 08/04/2024 12:12

theworldie · 08/04/2024 10:48

Honestly, the “gentle parenting” comments on this thread!

Blood-stained knickers, broken glass and mouldy food - as well as constantly nicking OP’s stuff?

And the answer is “take her for a Starbucks?”🤣

No bloody wonder kids are so entitled these days.

No, op it isn’t acceptable - it’s a health hazard, an accident waiting to happen and also thieving your stuff isn’t ok.

By all means help her sort it out but put your foot down - “right, we’re doing this now - let’s get it done together” and just crack on - if she won’t get involved then yes stick it outside or in the garage for her to go through herself whilst you vacuum and dust. Maybe suggest going and buying some nice stationery/organisers together to prepare for exams. Try and approach it in a positive way but make it clear there’s no excuses - it’s getting done today one way or another.

Totally agree with this post.

TinkerTiger · 08/04/2024 11:59

Oneofthesurvivors · 07/04/2024 19:32

I didn't know how to keep things tidy when I was a teen, no one taught me and I have a neurodiversity that makes organising really hard. My parents definitely didn't pander to it. They punished me by throwing things at me, hitting me, dragging me downstairs by my hair, told me i was worthless, none of which helped me learn to keep space clean.

Yeah I have ADHD so you’re not unique. But I have respect for others as well.

Isittimeformynapyet · 08/04/2024 11:58

Nanny0gg · 08/04/2024 00:34

'End of' doesn't make it so

I can't stand "end of" either.

It's like Phil Mitchell is laying down his law on Mumsnet 🙄

JackSpaniels · 08/04/2024 11:19

HelloMiss · 07/04/2024 17:52

All mine have gone through this stage as teens. Those with own homes now are extremely clean/tidy

Those still at home are more mindful

All of them look back fondly on the times I've gone in with bin bags. We laugh about it now.

The same. Both had trashed teen bedrooms at one point or another and both have show homes (well one is a bit full of stuff)

Isittimeformynapyet · 08/04/2024 11:07

Superduperuper · 07/04/2024 17:47

She’s doing her GCSEs. She’s going to be really stressed out at the moment. She’s also still holding down a part time job alongside that. Sounds like a great 16 year old. I know my house gets messy when I’ve had a particularly busy week at work. You are holding her to unfair standards and I really feel sorry for her. Why don’t you have a conversation with her? Take her for a Starbucks when she’s finished school one night, and gently but firmly bring it up then that you are feeling exasperated by how messy her room is and say it cannot continue. Treat her like an adult. That would be my advice. It will go a long way.

Why Starbucks specifically?

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