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To wonder if people genuinely struggle with comprehension or just enjoy being arseholes?

120 replies

Notsuretoputit · 07/04/2024 17:05

The number of examples AIBU throws up every day is getting insane.

OP asks ‘I bought a new dress for £200 but the shade of green clashes with my shoes. I tried to take it back but the shop said it had been worn. It hasn’t and it still had the tags on. AIBU to think I should get the dress refunded?’

And the replies come:

’YABU. You can’t wear clothes then expect to get a refund!’

’YABU. Why didn’t you take your shoes with you to try it on?’

’YABU. I’d never spend £200 on a dress. See if you can get something in a sale?’

’YANBU. If you’ve bought green, for example, there’s a high risk of clashing and this is what returns policies are for! Go back and speak to a manager.’

’YABU. Why did you buy green knowing they’d clash?’

’YABU to buy something from a sale without speaking to a manager first’

’YABU. You previously posted you prefer trousers’.

It’s mad.

OP posts:
Jovacknockowitch · 08/04/2024 09:47

PotterHead1985 · 08/04/2024 03:55

Agree there is definitely both here. But the deliberate goady nasty ones really rile me up.

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BuyTheBook · 08/04/2024 09:46

There are also the posters who pick up on the OP’s use of a non-offensive term, usually something like hubby, and won’t let it drop. Just post after post whining about the OP who’s clearly having a hard time calling her DP ‘hubby’.

Walesnotwhales · 08/04/2024 09:38

Notsuretoputit · 07/04/2024 19:40

AIBU

Oh OP, you’ve been done 🤣

VimtoVimto · 08/04/2024 09:11

I sometimes have to go back to the OP and subsequent posts by the original poster to see if I’ve missed something as the thread takes off in a totally different direction with some imagined scenario.

I also struggle when a thread gets derailed on some incidental detail of the original post ie you paid by your dress by credit card, why didn’t you pay cash?

Thepeopleversuswork · 08/04/2024 08:24

I think some people are just very small minded (in the literal not the pejorative sense of the word) and often cannot grasp that an anecdote is designed to make a broader point rather than being an end in itself.

For example the people who, when presented with an example of an overreaction by a loved one to something fairly trivial, will focus on the minor thing that happened to trigger the overreaction rather than the significant point which is that the loved one is being an arse.

CruCru · 08/04/2024 08:24

I wonder sometimes if it is a form of derailing / trolling. I can understand if the OP is a mad wall of text but not reading a four line OP and then commenting is weird.

I put up a thing in Site Stuff to ask if we can report posters for this (mainly because it makes MN boring) but I shouldn’t think they’ll implement it. Partly because they’d do nothing but delete posts for not having read the OP.

Karmaisagod · 08/04/2024 08:18

I agree with everybody's examples. The behaviour is so blatant and so quick off the mark, that sometimes I find it hard to believe it is just coincidental. I've wondered if there could be anything else at play, like a group of people (possibly smaller than it looks - maybe a relative few with several accounts each) orchestrating these pile-ons. I mean, could there be so many nasty, borderline illiterates all ready to be vile at the drop of a hat? But why would people do this deliberately?

I'm mystified by it, and thank you for this thread, OP. Your posts and the responses you're getting are restoring my faith a bit.

JosiePosey · 08/04/2024 08:16

Notsuretoputit · 07/04/2024 17:05

The number of examples AIBU throws up every day is getting insane.

OP asks ‘I bought a new dress for £200 but the shade of green clashes with my shoes. I tried to take it back but the shop said it had been worn. It hasn’t and it still had the tags on. AIBU to think I should get the dress refunded?’

And the replies come:

’YABU. You can’t wear clothes then expect to get a refund!’

’YABU. Why didn’t you take your shoes with you to try it on?’

’YABU. I’d never spend £200 on a dress. See if you can get something in a sale?’

’YANBU. If you’ve bought green, for example, there’s a high risk of clashing and this is what returns policies are for! Go back and speak to a manager.’

’YABU. Why did you buy green knowing they’d clash?’

’YABU to buy something from a sale without speaking to a manager first’

’YABU. You previously posted you prefer trousers’.

It’s mad.

YANBU , but uou forgot

'Why are you buying new clothes when people can't afford to eat?'

BibbleandSqwauk · 08/04/2024 08:08

Completely agree some of it is deliberate and some down to poor comprehension and /or the impact of most info now coming from v v short bursts and anything longer than 100 words is too much. Maybe a bit less fronted adverbial time and a bit more basic comprehension in English and other relevant would be good..I teach humanities in secondary school and if I do a pretty basic lesson with a text book and questions because basic content needs learning it's truly scary how many can't seem to cope with the idea of even reading something as long as this post. They'll ask for the exact sentence to be pointed out or skim it and then say the info isn't there.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/04/2024 08:01

Misthios · 07/04/2024 19:43

People don't read the whole post. They read the title, the first sentence and skim read the rest, and decide for themselves what the OP said. They will also regularly invent details which the OP never mentions to put their own spin on a story.

Optimistic to think they read as much as that.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/04/2024 07:54

Spudthespanner · 08/04/2024 00:30

YABU getting your knickers in a twist about an online forum. I never read Mumsnet, it's all nonsense. Also I don't wear dresses, why can't you wear trousers OP? Do you feel you have to wear a dress and heels to impress men? You might benefit from therapy.

Grin
Mairzydotes · 08/04/2024 07:49

When there is a post, sometimes an aibu , about somebody else's odd behaviour

' maybe they have dementia '

' maybe they are autistic '
Then when there are posts about autism and behaviour, it is no excuse.

Karmaisagod · 08/04/2024 07:47

AzureNewt · 08/04/2024 01:05

There was a thread recently where a poster was struggling to deal with her prescription-drug addicted mother and posted for a hand hold.

She was accused of all sorts of stuff by mumsnetters who hadn’t read the thread properly.

In her last post before deleting her account, after a particularly nasty couple of replies (that ran directly contrary to the OP’s prior posts), the distressed OP indicated that she was going to kill herself.

I remember that thread. I didn't realise it had ended so badly for her, poor woman. I wonder if Mumsnet has a way of checking in with her?

Yorkiepud2614 · 08/04/2024 07:28

I have had this exact thought many times. People seem incapable of reading things properly or just read what they want to read.

Mrttyl · 08/04/2024 07:00

A lot of people struggle with comprehension. It is one of the reasons they find school difficult and don’t get high marks in English.

Thepeopleversuswork · 08/04/2024 06:43

My most detested sub genre of this is the posters that pretend not to understand due to a minor spelling or grammar mistake in the post

God yes. Pass ag arseholery at its finest. What kind of person gets a frisson from grammar oneupmanship when someone has come on to a thread to talk about domestic abuse.

SeasickAccountant · 08/04/2024 06:38

There are people on here whose intent is to be as nasty as possible. They're often the first to respond too - I think they spend a lot of time on the web. It always upsets me when OP's post with a vulnerable issue, and then are hit by the sheer malice that comes their way.

DuchessNope · 08/04/2024 06:30

My most detested sub genre of this is the posters that pretend not to understand due to a minor spelling or grammar mistake in the post. It just makes them look thick if they can’t work out from context that the OP means bought not brought or would’ve not would of.

Then there is the “and what did your insurer say when you checked with them OP” people. Again often come off as stupid as it’s regularly used in a scenario where insurance is irrelevant anyway.

Thepeopleversuswork · 08/04/2024 06:16

The ones that get me are the pedantic point missers: and can’t see the wood for the trees people.

OP: ”DH hit me because I left it too late to return a pair of shoes that don’t fit and now I can’t get a refund.

Poster: “Next’s returns policy is very clear. You need to make sure you check when buying.”

Anycrispsleft · 08/04/2024 05:04

In charitable moments I remember the stats from the Literacy Trust that someone quoted once on here - like about 8% of the adult population in the UK is functionally illiterate (I.e. they can read the words but if it's an unfamiliar topic they might not understand them). But it's odd that every time there is a misunderstanding it's one that puts the OP in a bad light.

Adult literacy | National Literacy Trust

Information on adult literacy in the UK and our programmes

https://literacytrust.org.uk/parents-and-families/adult-literacy/

daisychain01 · 08/04/2024 04:58

Megifer · 07/04/2024 17:58

What gets me is the "maybe it's <state something it's clearly not>" posters.

"I walked in on DH buttoning his jeans up and my friends hair and make up was a mess and there's jizz on the leather sofa"

"Maybe they just had a cat nap together and one of them dribbled in their sleep. I dribble a lot in my sleep. Do you have trust issues op? This wouldn't bother me"

🙄

The dismissive "meh, this wouldn't bother me" type posts are appalling, eg: when the OP says it really upsets them and makes them question themselves because their DP is constantly saying how random women are "hot". All it does is reinforce that women should put up with shitty behaviour.

ChiefEverythingOfficer · 08/04/2024 04:49

So many posters deliberately obfuscate with the intention of being able to make it about their own life. The well intentioned do it - just so they have something to say. The arseholes do it so they can make themselves feel a bit superior.

daisychain01 · 08/04/2024 04:48

Topseyt123 · 08/04/2024 01:50

I honestly think people are just thick, or wilfully misunderstanding stuff.

People use MN to practice being obtuse, it's like a life skill for them.

daisychain01 · 08/04/2024 04:45

Catza · 07/04/2024 17:27

Well, I would be questioning whether there is any point in asking the question to begin with. The person went to refund the dress and was told no by the shop, what exactly can we do in this scenario? Organise a mass protest? So they get the answers they get because I am sure nobody can see what it is they are actually asking.

Well, for starters, someone could have been a bit more supportive by giving her some Consumer Rights advice. Unfortunately the default setting in here by some posters is to attack, criticise and sneer. I do see a lot of posts where people are supportive but those are outweighed by the horrible negative nasty posts, especially when someone clearly needs support.

tobee · 08/04/2024 04:27

Also a lot of threads you can imagine might have gone a completely different way if they had been posted at another time.