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Is it ever OK to report anyone?

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PassingStranger · 07/04/2024 11:49

Following on from the TV licence thread is it ever OK to report for benefit fraud, car tax, TV licence, etc or does it always come back and bit you on the bum?

Would you be scared to do it?

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Universalsnail · 07/04/2024 21:54

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:32

Don’t evade tax and no one can report you.

Im amazed this doesn’t make people more angry. You’re literally out of pocket because of these people. Yes, you.

I am really far more bothered by billion dollar companies and corporations evaising tax then I am Joe down the road getting paid cash in hand to fiddle his books to avoid tax. We're all just trying to get by. I think it's a stupid thing to do but honestly I just don't care that much about what the average person does to get by in life when the world elite are having joy rides into space by exploiting the rest of us.

babaisyou · 07/04/2024 21:53

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 14:32

Is it a negative thing to report a crime? Specifically benefit fraud?

How many threads about the hooters of PIP proceeded do we see on here? If people didn’t commit benefit fraud that process would be easier. Actions do have consequences

Similarly there are people at the BBC relying on their job and the income from the TV license.

And money from ‘car tax’ is actually money for emissions tax. What do you think that money goes towards?

Is it a negative thing to report a crime? Specifically benefit fraud?

For me, yes, it would be negative energy in my life to look at someone doing something I disapprove of and think 'right, I have to get involved in this, I'm going to pick up the phone and make a report'.

People do things I disapprove of all the time, if I get involved every time, that is frankly a lot of negativity in my life that I don't need.

MintGreenC · 07/04/2024 21:37

I find it funny people can't understand how you can know for a fact, I knew someone who had a council flat but didn't live there and had moved in with her bf whilst renting it out, I knew this for a FACT as I know the woman personally she's not an acquaintance or neighbour. She rented it out whilst pretending to live there, she was eventually reported (not by me) and lost the flat and had to pay back the money she had gained.

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 21:34

I also find that revenge attacks on so-called ‘grasses‘ aren’t your kind everyday average Joe reporting a man who beats his wife, or reporting someone who they know has killed an innocent child. It’s usually scummy criminals turning on other scummy criminals for self gain. Hang around with dogs, you get fleas.

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 21:32

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 21:28

If I reported someone who goes round battering women and killing kids do you not think Id be putting myself at risk for doing so?

Can you imagine reporting some gang member for something only for them to find out . You could be the next one having your life destroyed. A friends brother was stabbed for " grassing" someone.

If I reported someone who goes round battering women and killing kids do you not think Id be putting myself at risk for doing so?

Not unless you shouted about it. Did you not realise anonymous reports are very well catered for?

Can you imagine reporting some gang member for something only for them to find out

Id still 100% do it if it was a serious crime like with Rhys Jones, because I’m not a horrible selfish cunt. I do the right thing

A friends brother was stabbed for " grassing" someone.

Whilst that’s sad, most people don’t go around stabbing others. It wouldn’t put me off if a child had been abused or murdered. And I think VERY lowly of anyone who wouldn’t immediately report a serious crime because of their own self interests. It just means YOU don’t ever deserve help if you’re the victim of a crime.And that’s really not the kind of world I want to live in.

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 21:28

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:59

Ah fair enough I didn’t know that my last few cars have been brand new and no tax needed until the 2nd year.

But I’ll ask again - what would you not report? What are you willing to get ‘stitches’ for? A battered woman? An abused or dead child? I’m curious.

If I reported someone who goes round battering women and killing kids do you not think Id be putting myself at risk for doing so?

Can you imagine reporting some gang member for something only for them to find out . You could be the next one having your life destroyed. A friends brother was stabbed for " grassing" someone.

Toooldtoworry · 07/04/2024 21:04

I work in finance, there are certain things I absolutely must report or I'm getting fined or imprisoned. Having said that I have little time for people trying to fiddle the system.

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:59

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 20:50

Hmm I think you will find the rules changed on that a decade ago. Car tax is not transferrable. Better to get for facts rights before posting bullshit

Ah fair enough I didn’t know that my last few cars have been brand new and no tax needed until the 2nd year.

But I’ll ask again - what would you not report? What are you willing to get ‘stitches’ for? A battered woman? An abused or dead child? I’m curious.

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 20:50

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:44

If a car is already taxed you absolutely don’t have to tax it yourself when you purchase it. To claim it’s ‘sad’ to even check is very odd. It’s the same system to check for an MOT too. Hardly ‘snooping’ 😂

Hmm I think you will find the rules changed on that a decade ago. Car tax is not transferrable. Better to get for facts rights before posting bullshit

Driving without tax – what's the penalty? | RAC Drive

By law, it’s an offence to drive a vehicle in the UK without road tax Any motorist caught driving without it could be fined up to £1,000.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/driving-without-tax-guide/#:~:text=But%20with%20the%20introduction%20of,you%20drive%20off%20without%20it.

Crumpleton · 07/04/2024 20:49

Basically committing any kind of fraud is stealing, no matter whether it's from the BBC, benefit fraud, Joe Public, copyright or a supermarket, it's theft.

I'm assuming if any of those posting saying that they'd turn a blind eye as it's not their business/doesn't affect them/snitches get stitches would also afford the same if they had a break in at home/car stolen and their neighbours took the same stance and despite seeing it unfold still did nothing.

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:46

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 20:44

Never heard of Rhys Jones. And there's a big difference between someone commiting murder or child abuse ( which I've never known anyone who has) and not taxing car or buying TV licence

You will have heard of him, it was huge news about 16 years ago.

It’s the same attitude though of ‘snitches get stitches’, which is the SAME attitude that leads to shaming over ‘grassing’.

I’ll ask again - what WOULD you report and who will be giving you ‘stitches’

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:44

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 20:41

It doesn't make a blind bit of difference if a car is taxed if you are thinking of buying it as you have to tax it yourself as soon as purchased. You can no longer keep the previous tAx so what's the point in checking

And for people to report others for no tax they would be looking online without any intent on buying the car. I know it's public information but I don't know why anyone would be looking

And seeing as I've been driving 34 years I am well aware cars need to be either taxed or sorted.

If a car is already taxed you absolutely don’t have to tax it yourself when you purchase it. To claim it’s ‘sad’ to even check is very odd. It’s the same system to check for an MOT too. Hardly ‘snooping’ 😂

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 20:44

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:37

“Snitches get stitches” is the scumbag charter. And the pathetic little cowards charter.

Does it count for everything? Child abuse? Domestic violence?

I watch Little Boy Blue today about the murder of Rhys Jones and the many people who tried tried to cover up who the murderer was because the worst thing to be is a ‘grass’. That family, broken by grief of their 11yo son being shot as he walked home from playing footie with his mates, nearly didn’t get justice for their son because of the cunts and their ‘snitches get stitches attitude’. That’s really what you endorse @Samlewis96?

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Never heard of Rhys Jones. And there's a big difference between someone commiting murder or child abuse ( which I've never known anyone who has) and not taxing car or buying TV licence

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 20:41

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:32

Checking tax online isn’t “snooping” it’s publicly available information 🤣 and it’s a bit odd to call people who use this system ‘sad’. Would you not check before buying a car?
And card that aren’t driven around still need to be taxed or SORNed. HTH.

It doesn't make a blind bit of difference if a car is taxed if you are thinking of buying it as you have to tax it yourself as soon as purchased. You can no longer keep the previous tAx so what's the point in checking

And for people to report others for no tax they would be looking online without any intent on buying the car. I know it's public information but I don't know why anyone would be looking

And seeing as I've been driving 34 years I am well aware cars need to be either taxed or sorted.

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:37

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 18:47

No Snitches get stitches. Really how would doing so improve your life? If it's just a case in of having a moral high ground don't bother

“Snitches get stitches” is the scumbag charter. And the pathetic little cowards charter.

Does it count for everything? Child abuse? Domestic violence?

I watch Little Boy Blue today about the murder of Rhys Jones and the many people who tried tried to cover up who the murderer was because the worst thing to be is a ‘grass’. That family, broken by grief of their 11yo son being shot as he walked home from playing footie with his mates, nearly didn’t get justice for their son because of the cunts and their ‘snitches get stitches attitude’. That’s really what you endorse @Samlewis96?

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:34

I also think someone who doesn’t Tax their car is likely to not MOT their car, meaning innocent people are in danger with a potentially dangerous car on the road.

That kind of low level scummy behaviour usually goes hand in hand with people who think it’s fine to drink Drive or drive dangerously too.

I may be ‘sad’ to some for being annoyed about this but at least I’m not a scumbag or scumbag apologist.

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:32

Universalsnail · 07/04/2024 19:50

Who needs enemies when your friends would be willing to report your partner like this 😬

Don’t evade tax and no one can report you.

Im amazed this doesn’t make people more angry. You’re literally out of pocket because of these people. Yes, you.

YaMuvva · 07/04/2024 20:32

Samlewis96 · 07/04/2024 19:00

How? Unless you go snooping online to see if car was taxed? And why is your life so sad that you have nothing better to do?

Do you not realize that if a car is not taxed then anpr cameras will soon pick it up anyway

Checking tax online isn’t “snooping” it’s publicly available information 🤣 and it’s a bit odd to call people who use this system ‘sad’. Would you not check before buying a car?
And card that aren’t driven around still need to be taxed or SORNed. HTH.

taxguru · 07/04/2024 19:57

Yep, I've reported several people for various things.

It really annoys me that I play by the rules, follow laws, etc., yet so many other people not only flout laws but boast about it.

sprigatito · 07/04/2024 19:54

I would report cruelty or neglect, or anything else causing direct harm. I would not report theft, fraud, benefit-fiddling or any other financial crime. Because a) it's none of my business, and b) we live in a corrupt kleptocracy where we are all being defrauded and robbed on an industrial scale, so I don't judge others for finding ways to mitigate it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Youdontevengohere · 07/04/2024 19:54

Universalsnail · 07/04/2024 19:50

Who needs enemies when your friends would be willing to report your partner like this 😬

I didn’t report him. I was tempted. He is an abusive arsehole.

Universalsnail · 07/04/2024 19:50

Youdontevengohere · 07/04/2024 19:02

I very nearly reported a friend’s partner for serious tax evasion (100% sure it was happening as he told me 😏) which is still ongoing. I couldn’t bring myself to do it in the end though.

Who needs enemies when your friends would be willing to report your partner like this 😬

Whatifthehokeycokey · 07/04/2024 19:28

O, and a DUI. They could kill someone.

Whatifthehokeycokey · 07/04/2024 19:26

I would report an uninsured driver and certainly someone driving without a license.

Youdontevengohere · 07/04/2024 19:16

Beezknees · 07/04/2024 19:13

Yes, I never actually hear of this happening in real life, only on an anonymous internet forum. And I live in a housing association flat surrounded by benefit claimants!

Well I am a person in real life, and it happened. But convincing Beezknees that something I know to have happened actually happened isn’t top of my list of priorities in life so I’ll leave it there.
(It was tax fraud, not benefit fraud).

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