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DH pressuring me to find a job

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Macadamiamama · 07/04/2024 09:30

Need some context otherwise I’ll definitely be unreasonable.
DH is a well paid lawyer in London, whatever that means nowadays.
I’m not from the UK, I went to uni and started working in my country but since moving here I only ever did a few jobs here and there and stopped since having babies.
I have been supported by my DH for about 9 years now and he’s probably had enough of that. I need to add: he works long hours, is often very stressed. He doesn’t have much time for the kids, he helps with bath when he’s home otherwise it’s only me. I understand.
Now our youngest is about to go to reception in September and my time is ticking as he wants me to start contributing financially. I don’t feel able to find a good job in the hours I have or skills. I worked from home last year and it was a disaster I had to quit as I had no time to do anything around the house and the kids.
We have no luxuries apart from not checking prices at the supermarket. We never go on holiday. We own a flat and would like to buy a house soon.
The idea of work is nice but I feel stressed as I think I already do so much, I also wouldn’t get much money so it’s not very appealing. I have my ambitions, just don’t feel it’s worth at the moment when we have no debt and live a reasonably comfortable life.
He won’t change anything in his life when I start double shifting (work+kids) apparently I’ll have so much free time I won’t know what to with myself!
He mentions jobs in retail, waitress, receptionist. No disrespect for people doing that but he’ll go out the house in his suit and tie and I’d be going out in a uniform.
I’m not saying he needs to support me forever but I don’t feel confident enough to get a job atm. He won’t pay for further education either as that’d be taking money from the kids. Am I being too superior?

OP posts:
bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:36

Being a SAHM when your kids are all at school is harder than working?

Absolutely - they finish school at 3.30…! Whereas I was in my job until 7 most days and not home until past 8. So I missed the vast majority of the daily slog (and feel rather lucky to have done so!)

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 07/04/2024 22:34

He won’t change anything in his life
This needs emphasising to him. Theres a massive list of jobs that need to be done in the running of a home. If he is working long hours and doing nothing in the home, who else is sharing the work?

Bugsbunnie · 07/04/2024 22:34

Delatron · 07/04/2024 22:16

Yep and I would have loved to swan off to an office all day whilst someone else picked up all the slack at home - looked after two young kids and did all the drudgery, all the cleaning and washing and cooking and childcare. Then come home from my interesting job to a clean house, kids in bed, meal cooked…

All the while focusing on my career with no distractions. I know what sounds preferable to me..

i agree, but not if i was the only breadwinner as that in itself is really stressful knowing that the whole household depends on you and theres no other financial back up.

BusyMummy001 · 07/04/2024 22:33

rookiemere · 07/04/2024 21:59

I'm genuinely intrigued as to what courses people think would be an investment for OP and guarantee her a well paying career ?

I mean I can see vocational may work but something like accountancy is presumably full time for a number of years. Many courses and degrees are not worth anything in terms of guaranteeing future employment.

We employ staff through an agency that is about retaining people for jobs in the corporate world so ex forces and ex forces wives are quite common and often women returners to work. Maybe this could be an option, but would be full time.

So, for example, an MSc conversion (1 year, funded by a govt loan) would mean getting a trainee psychologist job (SLT for example are desperately needed). About £25kpa at the start, but closer to £70k after 10 years in the NHS, more if in mixed/private practice? Or law… similar pay trajectory. An MSc in Comp Sci/IT if first degree is related would also reap dividends as new Comp Sci grads earn £30-65k…

Or an MSC means you can become a uni lecturer? Starting pay £35k; term time hours.

All have career potential that would support OP’s DH in that house move and would underwrite additional childcare costs or an annual holiday.

All depends on Op’s degree discipline and interests.

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 22:31

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:27

being a sahp is actually ardest job in the world

Your latest post has confirmed my suspicions - your H has gone AWOL.

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/goji-3in1-wireless-keyboard-and-mouse-set-pink-10248707.html

You’re welcome! 😘

Christ, that’s basic
Try harder

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:31

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 22:25

You Presume I’m a bloke?
I presume your argumentative & prone to mendacity

😆

FlabMonsterIsDietingAgain · 07/04/2024 22:29

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:13

(Having been a SAHM and someone in a relatively stressful job, I feel qualified to say that). I found the parenting much harder.

Being a SAHM when your kids are all at school is harder than working?

I find that hard to believe to be honest.

Have some of the posters on here failed to read the OP, there's lots of people saying she gave up her career to facilitate his. OP states that she did her degree in her home country, moved here worked a bit on and off then had children and gave up work. She doesn't say that she was in a career, working towards or particularly interested in one.

She makes clear that her DH is fine with whatever job she gets, she just doesn't want to get one that she thinks is beneath her.

She makes clear that their financial situation currently doesn't allow them as a family to do what they want - buy a house and go on holidays.

So why are so many people making out that OPs DH is unreasonable for asking her to contribute to the household finances, or that she is perfectly reasonable to want to just stay home wasting all day everyday doing not much of anything while she waits for her children's school day to end so she can go pick them up?

Part time work is an achievable goal, it may be difficult to find M-F 10-2, but that isn't the only option, she could work 8hr days on Tuesday and a Thursday for example and the kids go to before and after school twice a week, or they may have family who could help.

Like every other family with 2 working parents they would need to use holiday clubs for some of the holidays but there are 13 weeks of those, between the 2 parents they will have at least 10 weeks A/l which means 3 weeks holiday club, make it 5 so they can have a couple of weeks all together, spread the cost of that over a years worth of the extra income into the household and they won't negate each other so it will still have been worth working, especially if using an Ofsted registered holiday club and the govt tax free childcare scheme.

Sooooootired01 · 07/04/2024 22:29

@bluewanda I’ve been a SAHM (before children were school age) and someone in a stressful job (teacher). The former was much, much easier.

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:27

being a sahp is actually ardest job in the world

Your latest post has confirmed my suspicions - your H has gone AWOL.

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/goji-3in1-wireless-keyboard-and-mouse-set-pink-10248707.html

You’re welcome! 😘

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 22:25

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:19

Is your keyboard missing an H? I assume from your post you’re a bloke. Let me repeat my previous post, since you don’t seem to have grasped what I said. I’ve been a SAHM and someone in a stressful job. The former was much harder.

You Presume I’m a bloke?
I presume your argumentative & prone to mendacity

Noseybookworm · 07/04/2024 22:25

What about looking at jobs with your local council? There's usually plenty of scope for progression and they'll often pay for training/further education. When my youngest went into reception, I retrained as a youth worker and worked in a Pupil Referral Unit. Not massively well paid but very rewarding and term time so fitted in with the kids. Local councils are usually quite flexible when it comes to working hours too.

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 22:23

working FT I’ve encountered prejudice etc from the non working mother
But It is me they want to talk to their daughters about uni, working,career progression as they have literally no relevant experience to share
No one kids ever needed or requested a career talk about running a house, or how being a sahp is actually ardest job in the world

Lilybetsey · 07/04/2024 22:23

It reads to me like you expect your husband to provide for you because he is a man and that you are not willing to get a job because somehow you feel he should bear the responsibility of being in the money.
As a single parent who has had to provide for myself and 3DC it's bloody hard, and I would be afraid he will resent you very much if you stay at home once your youngest is in school. And resentment kills love faster than almost anything else ...

Astariel · 07/04/2024 22:22

It doesn’t really matter if looking after your kids is really a job or whatever. The fact is that someone has to do it and that someone is not the OP’s husband.

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:20

Delatron · 07/04/2024 22:16

Yep and I would have loved to swan off to an office all day whilst someone else picked up all the slack at home - looked after two young kids and did all the drudgery, all the cleaning and washing and cooking and childcare. Then come home from my interesting job to a clean house, kids in bed, meal cooked…

All the while focusing on my career with no distractions. I know what sounds preferable to me..

Yup - I did this for a while and it was bliss! Much easier than childcare.

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:19

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 22:15

ardest job in the world. That old spiel, blah blah
utter nonsense of course
parenting Is a predominantly private endeavour not subject to external scrutiny or external standards . It is not harder than a job because it’s not a job. A set of tasks isn’t equivalent to a job.i suppose it was. A matter of time before the ardest job in the world line got trotted out

Is your keyboard missing an H? I assume from your post you’re a bloke. Let me repeat my previous post, since you don’t seem to have grasped what I said. I’ve been a SAHM and someone in a stressful job. The former was much harder.

Delatron · 07/04/2024 22:16

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:13

(Having been a SAHM and someone in a relatively stressful job, I feel qualified to say that). I found the parenting much harder.

Yep and I would have loved to swan off to an office all day whilst someone else picked up all the slack at home - looked after two young kids and did all the drudgery, all the cleaning and washing and cooking and childcare. Then come home from my interesting job to a clean house, kids in bed, meal cooked…

All the while focusing on my career with no distractions. I know what sounds preferable to me..

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 22:15

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:11

Parenting & associated tasks isn’t a job. It’s what you do as a parent, but job it is not

No, it’s not a job - it’s much harder!

ardest job in the world. That old spiel, blah blah
utter nonsense of course
parenting Is a predominantly private endeavour not subject to external scrutiny or external standards . It is not harder than a job because it’s not a job. A set of tasks isn’t equivalent to a job.i suppose it was. A matter of time before the ardest job in the world line got trotted out

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:13

(Having been a SAHM and someone in a relatively stressful job, I feel qualified to say that). I found the parenting much harder.

bluewanda · 07/04/2024 22:11

Parenting & associated tasks isn’t a job. It’s what you do as a parent, but job it is not

No, it’s not a job - it’s much harder!

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/04/2024 22:10

trekking1 · 07/04/2024 22:04

You are missing the point that working parents SPLIT these responsibilities so they each have a full time job + part time one. Op's husband will be doing none of that so op will effectively be working 2 full time jobs.

If she emphasised that point in the opening post instead of looking down on low paid workers the responses on this thread would look much different!

She’s not working at all never mind 2 jobs. Parenting & associated tasks isn’t a job. It’s what you do as a parent, but job it is not

Going forward Yes they need to split the tasks, apportion responsibilities and collaboratively pull together. They’re stuck in oppositional stances
shes financially inactive and unwilling to work,
hes the work donkey and he resents the sole responsibility

trekking1 · 07/04/2024 22:09

rookiemere · 07/04/2024 21:59

I'm genuinely intrigued as to what courses people think would be an investment for OP and guarantee her a well paying career ?

I mean I can see vocational may work but something like accountancy is presumably full time for a number of years. Many courses and degrees are not worth anything in terms of guaranteeing future employment.

We employ staff through an agency that is about retaining people for jobs in the corporate world so ex forces and ex forces wives are quite common and often women returners to work. Maybe this could be an option, but would be full time.

The only thing I can think of is tech courses.

MrsRaspberry · 07/04/2024 22:08

Ask him if he's going to start contributing a fair share of household chores and childcare in order for you to find work in order to financially contribute. Can you find something part time to work around school hours. If not you need to think about after school childcare too which isn't free unless you have family or friends who will be happy to help with school runs etc

BrownTroutBlues · 07/04/2024 22:08

Concannon88 · 07/04/2024 21:29

My mother is a headmistress, my step-dad a teacher, I've worked in over 35 schools in 18 years. I must know hundreds of TAs, and not one of them started unqualified, bar the headmasters niece. Not impossible, but there are usually over 500 applicants for teaching assistants, and most are qualified.

Appreciate your obvious experience in the field however
its not a requirement

randomfemthinker · 07/04/2024 22:06

OP, I hear you over your post. You've been raising his/both your children/a household for all these years and as soon they start school, it becomes the "get a job" narrative over any job. I'm the first to spot people who look down on low wage workers like myself and you weren't. You brought up the uniform thing to illustrate the point over the disparity between his fancy career/his privilege over relatively speaking, what he out of nowhere, started a conversation with you over expecting you to do over suggestion of jobs. So I totally get why you wrote that. It takes time to find a suitable job. And I do believe people should be happy where they work. Why should you be pushed into a shitty job without re training (that he is denying you) whilst he swans off his high status most likely, easier one? How you both move onto a bigger home could just mean an adjustment of how money is spent, anyway, rather than forcing a job onto you and him then having the gall to say he won't be doing his share of childcare or housework, etc.

Working is massively over rated sometimes and if employer's want people to fill their roles, why judge someone for not working over "gaps"? I mean who cares, anyway, unless someone is in some major career to begin with that holds them back if they heaven forbid, weren't "economically active" for a year or so? If someone was out of work, they still acquire skills and do things with life. Even then, so what if someone wanted to to - or be - something else other than a wage slave for a while.