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I haven't seen any of @OtterlyOverit abuse. But Sillipede has been abusive as have others on the thread.

Ironically the ones who only like free speech if it is pre approved right think.

I'd like to take the opportunity to say thank you to whoever reported the several abusive posts to me. Earlier in the thread I let them stand because I think people should see when they have no arguments other than insults, but I'm having a really bad day and would have found the continuing insults difficult.

So thanks ❤️

Is that free speech? @OtterlyOverit

@OtterlyOverit

But just blocking people he’s never even interacted with because of their trans views?

“Many respondents commented – such as Tom, who said: “Yes, don’t recall having any interaction with him”. Hillary tweeted back, saying: “I didn’t even know who he was but had blocked me”, while Stuart commented: “Yup…ally and blocked. Never interacted”.
Susie Green, formerly the CEO of Mermaids Charity, confirmed she was blocked, as did former professional cyclist and trans woman Pippa York saying, “Yes, I’m blocked, and I don’t even know who he is.” Speak Out Sister, a trans-inclusionary feminist group with over 25,500 Twitter followers, confirmed they are blocked.”

All you've done on this thread is give me dog's abuse. The idea that you're interested in debate is a bad joke.

I know enough to know that I have no desire to engage with a man like you any further.

You were talking about social media accounts not GB News?

He gets a lot of homophobic abuse etc from the 'be-kind' TRAs. I don't consider this kind of crap worthy of anybody's time so why wouldn't he block these twats? It's hardly 'debate' is it? Same as I used to block the rape and death threats from TRAs when I was on twitter.

I am pretty sure that those who disagree but engage in good faith will gain polite responses back from him. He is nothing if not extremely polite and well mannered even to those he disagrees with.

You don't know how language works do you?

Or rather a spectacular display of rampant individualism which I suspect is the GB News main ethos. And is the main thing binding its hosts. Including PA.

@OtterlyOverit

Thats not really ‘all views heard’ then is it. Blocking, shutting down debate - when he is supposedly championing free speech.
It gives him permission to say something potentially abusive (to another) about transgender - without giving the opportunity to reply.

I imagine that he blocks the abusive accounts - I would too and there are plenty of them.

So when Andrew Doyle speaks about his transgender views, why does he then block social media accounts who challenge him?
How is that free speech?

Apologies if this has already been posted.

This may give you an insight:

https://www.gbnews.com/presenters/andrew-doyle/

Just found out that Andrew Doyle co-writes Jonathon Pie! Apologies if everyone else know but this has just made me like him even more - that and the rather wonderful Titania McGrath of course.

I expect Andrew Doyle is there doing that segment because free speech is a worthwhile and engaging topic and he deals with it very well. If Newsnight or Ch4 news had got in first and offered him a similar slot I reckon he would have taken it.

I wonder if Andrew Doyle is there to appease OFCOM’s requirements for impartiality.

There are who align with the left because they favour an alternative style of reasoning, or would see dissidence as glamorous. And are also prone to a bit of conspiratorial thinking. Which is why you’d see ‘left wing’ authors like Fazi and Green on Unherd - which, at its core, has very right wing values.

This has got to be some sort of incel bot in action

Of course I accept that women can and do organise themselves, the same way I can accept that it was young people that chose to adopt non-binary labels.

Big of you to 'accept' this FFS. I am embarrassed for you.

The GC movement has undoubtedly been influenced by the evangelical right, and GBnews. Neither of which have women's rights as a core belief. It didn't spontaneously erupt with the burning of an effigy of Judith Butler

This is utter utter bullshit. Your contempt for women drips from your posts.

Yes this exactly.

Probably depends where you work.

It's probably the most incendiary topic around at the moment, with people on both sides in fear of speaking about it.
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I think it's been nudged into second place as of October last year.

Why would I only get my news from a liberal rag like the Guardian?
I was using the general you i.e. "if one gets their news only from the guardian .."
However you do have similar talking points and blind spots on the topics they don't cover.

The GC movement has undoubtedly been influenced by the evangelical right, and GBnews
Haha no. GB news has been the only station to semi-regularly have GC guests, which I appreciate. But it is not where any of the ideas come from. Andrew Doyle does excellent work on free speech, which I also appreciate, but really free speech is its own cause and not part of GC philosophy.

The far right is actually opposed to gender critical beliefs, because the far right supports strict gender roles - just as gender ideology does. There are really three distinct and opposing blocs on the topic. The conservative right view, the gender ideology view, and the gender critical view (the good one).

Why would I only get my news from a liberal rag like the Guardian?

The GC movement has undoubtedly been influenced by the evangelical right, and GBnews. Neither of which have women's rights as a core belief. It didn't spontaneously erupt with the burning of an effigy of Judith Butler.

Of course I accept that women can and do organise themselves, the same way I can accept that it was young people that chose to adopt non-binary labels. I don't think everyone is sat at home reading critical theory and then living it out, people are reacting to either lived experiences or, like the pro-trans lobby in the US to rafts of regressive legislation.

It's probably the most incendiary topic around at the moment, with people on both sides in fear of speaking about it. When you add the anti-abortion, evangelical right into the mix you don't lesson the hysteria.