Reporting someone about having no TV LIcence?

The example I gave you shows how women are targeted.

HTH.

And if you think the government and the BBC are going to address it then you’re living in cloud cuckoo land, love.

Yes! Women are more likely to be prosecuted because they are a) more likely to commit the offence because of societal reasons like low income and poverty as single mothers or low income wage earners.

But also more likely to co-operate/admit fault due to other societal reasons.

Which the government and the BBC are considering in their discussions around the disparity in prosecution for TV licencing evasion.

Which is not the same as previous posters said, that women are disproportionately targeted and that being evidence of systemic sexism.

And is not the same as the idea perpetuated that low income vulnerable women are at risk of, or routinely being imprisoned for not having a TV licence because that isn't happening.

Keep your nose out and don’t be a snitch! Worry about your own business, or things that impact you.

this doesn’t concern you.

It’s possible women are more likely to feel pressured by a TV licensing inspector to allow them into their home and accept a penalty than men?

As the pp above says- In their case they flatly refused to let an inspector in and were assertive enough to argue that they were not watching live TV- thus weren’t penalised.

Women are more conditioned (?) to be agreeable and simply accept a penalty perhaps.

When I had a TVL guy visit my home I felt quite intimidated and he refused to listen to my reasons for not having a license.

I'm very aware of the statistics which is why I was very confident in my response.

Like I said, what you said is not true. Because it isn't.

Here's your post:

"bellezarara · Yesterday 21:44

No, don’t report them. Women are already disproportionately targeted for legal action for license fee evasion, don’t add to the sexism"

You said women are disproportionately targeted. No they are not.

Women are disproportionately effected because of societal reasons. Low income, single mothers etc. Which the government and BBC are well aware of are discussing how to address that.

But women are not disproportionately targeted, because there's no way for that the TV licencing system can target anyone, regardless of sex.

They identify people who aren't paying and issue fines.

And you can't go to prison for not having a TV licence but you can for not paying the fines and in that case men disproportionately go to prison for not paying the fines because more women are issued with them and don't go to prison because there are more government schemes to help women, particularly mothers and courts are more disinclined to imprison Women, particularly women with children.

So yes, you were wrong again, in saying women were targeted and that it is sexism as sexism is disadvantage based on sex.

Women aren't targeted for TV licencing prosecutions and it isn't sexism.

There are just more women prosecuted because more women are prosecuted/co-operate with prosecution for the offence and if they don't pay the fines, they are actually likely to benefit from being women as men are more likely to be imprisoned.

HTH.

Wow just keep your nose out of it

They might not nee a licence. I’ve not got one because I don’t watch live tv or iPlayer.

She shouldn't have opened the door or engaged with then in an any way .

Yes it is

“Perhaps most shockingly, TV licensing offences disproportionately involve women, who in 2019 made up a whopping 74% of people convicted of non-payment in the UK – though only 49% of licence holders are women.

Take Amina. APPEAL, the legal charity I work for, represented Amina in her TV licensing case. She was deeply anxious after being threatened with prosecution in 2019. Amina and her husband were moving cities while she was heavily pregnant and in and out of hospital. Paying the TV licence at their new property slipped their minds.
When a TV licence officer came to the front door, she explained that her husband was in charge of arranging the payment. Her husband even spoke over the phone to the officer while he was on the doorstep to confirm this, and he paid for a new licence under his name immediately. A few weeks later Amina received a letter saying she was being prosecuted for watching TV without a valid licence. Despite her husband having paid, the officer had opened a new licence fee account in Amina’s name without consulting her.”

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/why-are-women-being-disproportionately-penalised-tv-license-non-payment/

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I stand corrected! Thank you! 🙂

Are you 100% certain they are watching broadcast television or iPlayer? If they don’t watch either of those, they are under no obligation to purchase a TV licence.

You know you won’t get in any trouble for not grassing them up, right? Also, they’re your housemates, which means you’d have to live people you’ve grassed up.

I’m wondering if I should cancel my TVL now!

I was told when I didn’t pay it, that if I had any devices that could access BBCiplayer (even if I didn’t watch it or have the app downloaded?) I would have to pay.

Its certainly outdated and perhaps the BBC should use advertising and sponsorship to fund themselves or lock it down and offer a pay to view subscription like every other tv platform.

What exactly do you think is going to happen if you report them ?
The TV licencing people already know there isn't a licence hence the letter ,s
The most they can so is send round an " investigating officer"
Who has no power of entry ,and the householdre doesn't even have to open the door to them.

No, that isn't true.

This. We don't need more people pandering to government propaganda encouraging us to grass each other up. All the time they have us all turning on eachother like this they are doing far worse things that have real impact on our lives while we are all so busy bitching at eachother for not having a TV licence that we don't notice our own civil liberties slowly being removed from us. 'Look over there! Look over there! Don't look over here at what we are doing!'

I canceled it years ago when I realised that I'd been paying for it for god knows how long and no one was watching any live TV

They came round once and tried to catch me out but haven't heard from them since

And I had no interest in watching the queen's funeral , don't know why some people think everyone must have been interested in that

Quite 😂

I get statements from TVL all the time. In envelopes with “TV Licensing” on the front because I’m on a payment plan.

Luckily my postman hasn’t decided he needs to report me to someone

Unless you have somehow managed to get proof they are watching something they shouldnt be what are you reporting them for?

I get those letters. I don't have a TV licence. Im not watching anything that requires one.

You want to report to TV licencing....that you've noticed them getting letters from TV licencing?

🤔

If you watch bbc (including iPlayer) or other live tv you are in effect stealing if you don't have a licence. So yes i would report thieves but only if they were actually stealing which several posters here are bragging that they are!

BBC has the best tv by far, we struggle to find much on Netflix that isn't old tv or movies (I do watch a couple of films a week but it's not the same as proper tv). It may be an unusual thing to admit these days but we put the tv on to see what on!

Allegedly

if you use a burner email such as burner@gmail (or similar)

and put a fake address etc into iplayer

it stops the bbc tracing accounts that don’t have a tv licence

😇

@JanglingJack

i don't consider myself a mug to pay for a service I use.

no different than paying a fare to use the train. On my line I could probably get away with not paying, but I don't because I'm not a twat, who thinks It makes me a mug.

I'd ignore it.

@WhamBamThankU

i think a lot of people watch more of the 'licence required' tv than they realise, there's a lot included in it, not just scheduled TV.