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Reporting someone about having no TV LIcence?

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WhiteDragon66 · 06/04/2024 21:39

At the moment I am living in an HMO. I have lived here for coming up to three years now.
I have a licence. However I have noticed that two of the residents within the household have been receiving letters from TV LIcensing for quite a long time now.
There are six of us all together living here. I think that I am the only one who is licensed though?
Would I be right in reporting just these two individuals, do you think, or should I just simply ignore this??
Any feedback would be really very helpful. Thank you.

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Pinkpinkpink15 · 08/04/2024 08:12

bellezarara · 07/04/2024 17:30

You really don’t know that, you’ve just made your own shit up.

@bellezarara

I don't know that your post shows ONE situation?

All of your posts are nonsense.

I won't be replying to your nonsense any more.

SmileyClare · 07/04/2024 20:49

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I’m hoping it’s a TV Licensing market research bot and they’ll use this feedback to scrap the TVL entirely!

Spoonthief · 07/04/2024 20:21

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Cherry8809 · 07/04/2024 18:18

Don’t be cunty 😘

kirbykirby · 07/04/2024 18:03

SmileyClare · 07/04/2024 15:37

I’m wondering if I should cancel my TVL now!

I was told when I didn’t pay it, that if I had any devices that could access BBCiplayer (even if I didn’t watch it or have the app downloaded?) I would have to pay.

Its certainly outdated and perhaps the BBC should use advertising and sponsorship to fund themselves or lock it down and offer a pay to view subscription like every other tv platform.

If you don't watch any live tv just cancel it and save yourself money. Just don't answer the door to anyone claiming to be from tv licensing, they have no legal authority and are not police. You don't have to let them in and if you do answer the door by accident just stay silent and close it.

dimllaishebiaith · 07/04/2024 17:56

GremlinsHemluns · 07/04/2024 17:39

No it didn't. At all.

it demonstrated that women are disproportionately effected, it didn't demonstrate that women are targeted.

Do you not understand how society works?

Do you not realise correlation is very different to causation?.

And what targeted means?

And what sexism means.

Please, please explain how you think what you said provides evidence that women are targeted by TV licencing prosecutions and how that is evidence of sexism because it isn't.

And I didn't claim that the BBC or the government would solve it or be particularly invested in doing so, just that they identified it was a complex issue which really isn't about what you're saying which is a nonsense idea that the BBC licencing system is deliberately targeting women because of sexism against women

That's just daft and apparently that's what you think?

But please provide me with evidence that the TV licencing system is targeting women because it isn't.

It doesn't GAF about who is fined, they just care about the money.

Actually given women take on the greater burden of caring work, and are therefore more likely to be working part time and at home during the day, the inspectors going round during the day are targeting women and disabled people

That doesn't necesarrily mean that they are deliberately targetting women and disabled people but it could be seen as indirect discrimination.

Moreover one of the other reasons cited for more women being prosecuted is because apparently when men do answer the door they are more likely to direct the inspector to their female partner to answer the questions, and then she ends up being prosecuted, even when a man lives there, also watches televison and therefore has an equal responsibility to ensure the licence is brought.

Vacantstare · 07/04/2024 17:55

It would be a very mean, pointless thing to do. Focus on something else

GoldenSpraint · 07/04/2024 17:53

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RightOnTheEdge · 07/04/2024 17:50

Your OP doesn't even make sense! If they are receiving letters then the licencing people already know they dont have one.
Mind your own business!

SmileyClare · 07/04/2024 17:49

x2boys · 07/04/2024 17:41

Weell the inspector was lying to you ,why did you engage with them?

It seems so! I was concerned I’d be prosecuted I suppose.The inspector went into an official sounding spiel about the risk of fine or prosecution at the door.

I’m going to look more carefully into whether I need one or not. Thank you 😊

Vacantstare · 07/04/2024 17:46

Why would you report someone for having no TV license? Doesn't affect you in any way. Bit pathetic to be contemplating it imo.

CaterhamReconstituted · 07/04/2024 17:45

Pinkpinkpink15 · 07/04/2024 17:17

@bellezarara

its a HMO very very few will be female only as the owners let the rooms out individually. Unconcerned with what the tenants would like.

its ridiculous that some people turn everything into sexism.

Women are already disproportionately targeted for legal action for license fee evasion, don’t add to the sexism

that's a pile of nonsense.

It’s not nonsense. It’s well known that the TV Licensing authorities are run by vile misogynists. They deliberately target women because they are more likely to pay the fines. Apparently they have a machine that shows how often a particular TV is tuning into Loose Women and Married at First Sight and they prioritise those for enforcement action.

Nicetobenice67 · 07/04/2024 17:42

Why would you grass someone up for not having a tv licence it’s hardly crime of the century and it doesn’t effect you in any way ..have a word with yourself 🤔

MississippiAF · 07/04/2024 17:42

Why would you? Maybe they don’t even watch it.

I don’t have one any longer. I don’t want to pay opinionated BBC presenter salaries so I don’t. There is nothing to miss, tbh.

CaterhamReconstituted · 07/04/2024 17:41

Ignore. It’s a mean-spirited, snitchy thing to report them.

x2boys · 07/04/2024 17:41

SmileyClare · 07/04/2024 17:38

The whole bloody TV licensing enforcement sounds like a shambles anyway regardless of whether it’s sex discriminatory.

Lots of people on here have found loopholes to avoid it or simply cancel it because they don’t watch BBC or BBCiplayer.

I was told by an inspector that if I had any device that could access the internet in my home then I could potentially be watching BBC streamed programmes. (?)

I was forced to pay yet other people are allowed to cancel their licences? Where’s the continuity or fair treatment?

The whole archaic idea of a license for a TV should have been scrapped years ago.

It can’t be regulated or policed with any accuracy clearly!

Weell the inspector was lying to you ,why did you engage with them?

StormingNorman · 07/04/2024 17:40

WhiteDragon66 · 06/04/2024 21:39

At the moment I am living in an HMO. I have lived here for coming up to three years now.
I have a licence. However I have noticed that two of the residents within the household have been receiving letters from TV LIcensing for quite a long time now.
There are six of us all together living here. I think that I am the only one who is licensed though?
Would I be right in reporting just these two individuals, do you think, or should I just simply ignore this??
Any feedback would be really very helpful. Thank you.

None of your business.

GoldenSpraint · 07/04/2024 17:40

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GremlinsHemluns · 07/04/2024 17:39

bellezarara · 07/04/2024 17:10

The example I gave you shows how women are targeted.

HTH.

And if you think the government and the BBC are going to address it then you’re living in cloud cuckoo land, love.

No it didn't. At all.

it demonstrated that women are disproportionately effected, it didn't demonstrate that women are targeted.

Do you not understand how society works?

Do you not realise correlation is very different to causation?.

And what targeted means?

And what sexism means.

Please, please explain how you think what you said provides evidence that women are targeted by TV licencing prosecutions and how that is evidence of sexism because it isn't.

And I didn't claim that the BBC or the government would solve it or be particularly invested in doing so, just that they identified it was a complex issue which really isn't about what you're saying which is a nonsense idea that the BBC licencing system is deliberately targeting women because of sexism against women

That's just daft and apparently that's what you think?

But please provide me with evidence that the TV licencing system is targeting women because it isn't.

It doesn't GAF about who is fined, they just care about the money.

SmileyClare · 07/04/2024 17:38

The whole bloody TV licensing enforcement sounds like a shambles anyway regardless of whether it’s sex discriminatory.

Lots of people on here have found loopholes to avoid it or simply cancel it because they don’t watch BBC or BBCiplayer.

I was told by an inspector that if I had any device that could access the internet in my home then I could potentially be watching BBC streamed programmes. (?)

I was forced to pay yet other people are allowed to cancel their licences? Where’s the continuity or fair treatment?

The whole archaic idea of a license for a TV should have been scrapped years ago.

It can’t be regulated or policed with any accuracy clearly!

bellezarara · 07/04/2024 17:31

Pinkpinkpink15 · 07/04/2024 17:24

@bellezarara

tgats ONE case. That doesn't make it women being disproportionately targeted.

Statistics tell the truth.

bellezarara · 07/04/2024 17:30

Pinkpinkpink15 · 07/04/2024 17:17

@bellezarara

its a HMO very very few will be female only as the owners let the rooms out individually. Unconcerned with what the tenants would like.

its ridiculous that some people turn everything into sexism.

Women are already disproportionately targeted for legal action for license fee evasion, don’t add to the sexism

that's a pile of nonsense.

You really don’t know that, you’ve just made your own shit up.

Pinkpinkpink15 · 07/04/2024 17:24

bellezarara · 07/04/2024 15:44

Yes it is Hmm

“Perhaps most shockingly, TV licensing offences disproportionately involve women, who in 2019 made up a whopping 74% of people convicted of non-payment in the UK – though only 49% of licence holders are women.

Take Amina. APPEAL, the legal charity I work for, represented Amina in her TV licensing case. She was deeply anxious after being threatened with prosecution in 2019. Amina and her husband were moving cities while she was heavily pregnant and in and out of hospital. Paying the TV licence at their new property slipped their minds.
When a TV licence officer came to the front door, she explained that her husband was in charge of arranging the payment. Her husband even spoke over the phone to the officer while he was on the doorstep to confirm this, and he paid for a new licence under his name immediately. A few weeks later Amina received a letter saying she was being prosecuted for watching TV without a valid licence. Despite her husband having paid, the officer had opened a new licence fee account in Amina’s name without consulting her.”

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/why-are-women-being-disproportionately-penalised-tv-license-non-payment/

@bellezarara

tgats ONE case. That doesn't make it women being disproportionately targeted.

Pinkpinkpink15 · 07/04/2024 17:17

bellezarara · 07/04/2024 12:45

Women often live with women. Only OP knows, who has long since gone.

Why so aggressive?

@bellezarara

its a HMO very very few will be female only as the owners let the rooms out individually. Unconcerned with what the tenants would like.

its ridiculous that some people turn everything into sexism.

Women are already disproportionately targeted for legal action for license fee evasion, don’t add to the sexism

that's a pile of nonsense.

x2boys · 07/04/2024 17:12

SmileyClare · 07/04/2024 16:45

It’s possible women are more likely to feel pressured by a TV licensing inspector to allow them into their home and accept a penalty than men?

As the pp above says- In their case they flatly refused to let an inspector in and were assertive enough to argue that they were not watching live TV- thus weren’t penalised.

Women are more conditioned (?) to be agreeable and simply accept a penalty perhaps.

When I had a TVL guy visit my home I felt quite intimidated and he refused to listen to my reasons for not having a license.

You don't have to give any reasons, just don't engage with them at all
Or don't answer the door.

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