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KathySeldon · 2024-04-06T18:32:04+00:00

Husband wats to book a camel ride on holiday next week. I'm feeling that I am too heavy to go on a camel. AIBU to think that?

Nanny0gg · 07/04/2024 22:14

MolkosTeenageAngst · 07/04/2024 19:24

OP hasn’t even said which country she’s in and most people here have unilaterally said camel riding is cruel, completely ignoring the fact that welfare standards aren’t the same everywhere and that there are reputable camel trek and legitimate places to ride camels. Obviously no id a if this is the case for OP but it’s not as black and white as all situations where camels are being ridden are bad, which I would argue is not the case for things like swimming with dolphins which it’s been compared to. Camels have been domesticated and used by humans for thousands of years much like horses, not recently captured from the wild like dolphins.

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Look at the way fonkeys are generally treated for comparison.v😡

MolkosTeenageAngst · 07/04/2024 19:24

Nanny0gg · 07/04/2024 19:10

Are the welfare standards the same in both countries?

Bet they're not

Beasts of burden are just tools and treated accordingly

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OP hasn’t even said which country she’s in and most people here have unilaterally said camel riding is cruel, completely ignoring the fact that welfare standards aren’t the same everywhere and that there are reputable camel trek and legitimate places to ride camels. Obviously no id a if this is the case for OP but it’s not as black and white as all situations where camels are being ridden are bad, which I would argue is not the case for things like swimming with dolphins which it’s been compared to. Camels have been domesticated and used by humans for thousands of years much like horses, not recently captured from the wild like dolphins.

Nanny0gg · 07/04/2024 19:10

MolkosTeenageAngst · 06/04/2024 19:56

Do you feel the same about the horses in riding stables which children in the UK regularly frequent to learn to ride? What about the horses which are used by charities such as RDA for riding for the disabled? Horses are used to have people ride them to make money and I never see anyone moan about that in the UK.

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Are the welfare standards the same in both countries?

Bet they're not

Beasts of burden are just tools and treated accordingly

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 07/04/2024 19:06

I won't share what I've seen in Egypt as others have, it's just too distressing. Seems like OP is very much unconcerned though as she pops off to enjoy the sunshine 🤷‍♀️Don't know why she posted really if what she's read hasn't swayed her decision one way or the other.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/04/2024 17:53

It’s a very uncomfortable ride! Personally I’d give it a miss.,

Jc2001 · 07/04/2024 17:52

Shabnamsshoos · 07/04/2024 16:38

Are you comparing racist attitudes & the inhumane treatment of enslaved humans to animals? This is massively inappropriate, offensive and poorly worded.

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I'm saying just because someone says something is ok, it doesn't mean it is.

I'm not comparing anything with anything else.

Wind your neck in.

katseyes7 · 07/04/2024 17:43

Isn’t there an airline that now weighs passengers as well as luggage? I think that makes so much sense.
The 'excess baggage' charge bemuses me when you relate it to diversity in weight of passengers.

I genuinely cannot see the logic of charging people excess baggage for a few kilos in luggage, yet two people weighing seven stone and seventeen stone are treated the same.
I'm not being 'fattist', l'm two stone overweight myself, but it just seems to defy logic when you have to pay extra for a few kilos, but several stone is fine.

Shabnamsshoos · 07/04/2024 16:38

Jc2001 · 07/04/2024 14:07

They're beasts of burden because that's how humans in these countries define them. Doesn't mean it's right. People used to believe that about black slaves ffs.

People need to stop participating in cruelty as part of their holiday experience.

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Are you comparing racist attitudes & the inhumane treatment of enslaved humans to animals? This is massively inappropriate, offensive and poorly worded.

Shabnamsshoos · 07/04/2024 16:31

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 14:10

I agree people shouldn't ride camels by the way, but that has nothing to do with the fact that OP weighs 15 stone. Some people's comments have just been plain nasty and it's totally unnecessary.

Hear hear…In their rush to appear self-righteous they’re actually coming off unnecessarily spiteful.

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Floogal · 07/04/2024 15:58

If you're going to North Africa, then it won't be a camel 🐫, but a dromedary 🐪.

Radradrad · 07/04/2024 15:42

SallyWD · 07/04/2024 14:47

Are you not taking note of all the comments on animal cruelty? Sorry if I sound judgey but to be honest, I am judging. Never forget seeing a bloke in Egypt punching a camel really hard in the face because it was reluctant to give some tourists a ride.

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Yeah I saw a camel in Egypt being viciously whipped because it wasn't leaning down far enough for a tourist to get on. Horrendous existence but OP sounds like you don't care.

Radradrad · 07/04/2024 15:40

Pure cruelty, wouldn't get on one if I weighed 1kg.

samsam123 · 07/04/2024 15:15

they treat the camels terribly, give the money to animal welfare charity and walk

SallyWD · 07/04/2024 14:47

KathySeldon · 07/04/2024 09:02

Thanks all.

Shall make a decision when I'm there.
Off to get some sunshine now. 😎

Are you not taking note of all the comments on animal cruelty? Sorry if I sound judgey but to be honest, I am judging. Never forget seeing a bloke in Egypt punching a camel really hard in the face because it was reluctant to give some tourists a ride.

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 14:30

KoolKookaburra · 07/04/2024 14:22

Exactly. OP could weigh 8kg and it would still be an ethical issue

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Precisely.

I think most people on here agree that camel rides set up for tourists are wrong. There's absolutely no need to use OP's weight to make her feel like shit, though.

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 14:28

Jc2001 · 07/04/2024 14:20

I don't disagree with that but referring to animals as beasts of burdens to justify that sort of treatment is ridiculous.

Having said that a bit of bloody common sense about it wouldn't go amiss.

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I wasn't using it to justify anything. I've said several times I don't agree with camel rides.

But I also don't agree with people insulting OP and calling her fat and "far too heavy". She's only 15 stones, she's hardly monstrous ffs.

KoolKookaburra · 07/04/2024 14:22

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 14:09

If you disagree with camel rides on an ethical level, then surely OP's weight is completely irrelevant and doesn't need to be commented on?

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Exactly. OP could weigh 8kg and it would still be an ethical issue

Jc2001 · 07/04/2024 14:20

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 14:09

If you disagree with camel rides on an ethical level, then surely OP's weight is completely irrelevant and doesn't need to be commented on?

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I don't disagree with that but referring to animals as beasts of burdens to justify that sort of treatment is ridiculous.

Having said that a bit of bloody common sense about it wouldn't go amiss.

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 14:10

I agree people shouldn't ride camels by the way, but that has nothing to do with the fact that OP weighs 15 stone. Some people's comments have just been plain nasty and it's totally unnecessary.

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 14:09

Jc2001 · 07/04/2024 14:07

They're beasts of burden because that's how humans in these countries define them. Doesn't mean it's right. People used to believe that about black slaves ffs.

People need to stop participating in cruelty as part of their holiday experience.

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If you disagree with camel rides on an ethical level, then surely OP's weight is completely irrelevant and doesn't need to be commented on?

Jc2001 · 07/04/2024 14:07

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 13:56

Camels are beasts of burden and capable of carrying much more than 15 stone.

The ethics/animal cruelty side of things is valid, but all these unpleasant comments about OP's weight are both wrong and unnecessary.

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They're beasts of burden because that's how humans in these countries define them. Doesn't mean it's right. People used to believe that about black slaves ffs.

People need to stop participating in cruelty as part of their holiday experience.

KoolKookaburra · 07/04/2024 14:04

Yeah I think calling people fat is not needed for this conversation

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 14:03

Cherrysoup · 07/04/2024 14:01

More than aware, thanks. Still think it’s a terrible idea. I’m sure you’re aware that ethically, it’s probably not a great idea. Camels can carry hundreds of pounds, but should they? Given the OP is already concerned and can have no idea of the animals welfare, I’d say god, no. Increasingly, people are campaigning to stop elephants carrying tourists, I don’t see how using a camel is any better.

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My point is that people can argue about the ethics of camel rides without bringing OP's weight into it.

Many people would argue that riding horses is equally cruel (and I say that as a rider myself).

fieldsofbutterflies · 07/04/2024 14:02

AlwaysGinPlease · 07/04/2024 13:58

@fieldsofbutterflies Oh shhh. OP asked, people have answered. My post wasn't nasty. It was factual.

It's not even remotely factual. Camels can easily carry an extra 200lbs of weight while walking 20 miles a day.

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/blog/camel-fact-sheet/

Camel Fact Sheet | Blog | Nature | PBS

Camel: even-toed ungulate (hoofed mammal) in the genus Camelus. Kingdom: | Animalia Phylum: | Chordata Class: | Mammalia Order: | Cetartiodactyla Family:

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/blog/camel-fact-sheet