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To say what instead of pardon?

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toomanycoffeess · 06/04/2024 19:19

Or is that rude?

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Itsnamechange · 07/04/2024 17:48

Can we have a class topic? It’ll probably be the busiest on the site - filled with Hyacinths trying desperately to appear to be a class they definitely aren’t because the Upper Classes are apparently just better people.

EveryKneeShallBow · 07/04/2024 17:38

Definitely what? Or sorry. Pardon is twee and mealy-mouthed.

Geebray · 07/04/2024 16:16

BCBird · 06/04/2024 19:33

Working class. Always say pardon. If any pupils say what, I give them 'the look' and it soon becomes pardon😆

This is so awful. Their parents want them to say "What", but you are countermanding that? Because of your feels?

lucyintheskyx · 07/04/2024 16:05

it depends how it's said. "Pardon" does seem a bit twee though I grew up being told to use that instead of "what" but now I seem to always say "sorry, what did you say?" or "sorry I missed that" or if with very close friends I'll go for a succinct "wait, what?"

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/04/2024 15:24

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:02

No, Upper Class is What.

Yes I agree, upper class is “what?” Or “what did you say?”

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/04/2024 15:23

“What” is better English than “pardon”.

”What did you say?” or ”could you repeat that?” Is better English still.

gould · 07/04/2024 15:22

This is interesting

My FIL, very wealthy public school boy, always say what?

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 15:07

thepastinsidethepresent · 07/04/2024 14:56

My kind of person 😂

😘😃😛

thepastinsidethepresent · 07/04/2024 14:56

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 14:49

Yeah, but I don't say that. I just say 'better out than in!' 😆

My kind of person 😂

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 14:49

thepastinsidethepresent · 07/04/2024 14:47

I associate 'pardon me' with someone having burped or farted. 😄

Yeah, but I don't say that. I just say 'better out than in!' 😆

thepastinsidethepresent · 07/04/2024 14:47

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:33

Pardon me is almost worse than pardon.

I associate 'pardon me' with someone having burped or farted. 😄

merryhouse · 07/04/2024 14:46

Isn't it quite stressful, worrying about whether your children are considered common?

Tbh, it's bad enough worrying that they may be considered posh. If I'd also had to think about what his future fellow choral scholars (several actual Eton alumni) called their relaxing room I might have been committed...

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:33

Pardon me is almost worse than pardon.

Oneearringlost · 07/04/2024 14:33

Whatifthehokeycokey · 06/04/2024 21:24

If you're not supposed to say 'lounge' or 'living room', what are you supposed to say? PARLOUR??!!

Sitting room?

WoollyRosebud · 07/04/2024 14:22

My DDad used to say 'Don't say what say eh, ey makes bullshit' He was full of sayings like that. I miss him

Gingernurt88 · 07/04/2024 14:20

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 14:11

First answer nails it (for me.) I say 'sorry?' or 'sorry - I didn't catch that.'

And I am working class, not upper-class. (A pp suggested UC say 'sorry?') I just think saying 'sorry?' when you didn't hear someone properly just sounds nicer/more polite.

'Pardon?' sounds like you're a bit annoyed, and 'what?' sounds too coarse (IMO.)

Edited

I'm definitely not upper class 🤣

Elphame · 07/04/2024 14:18

BCBird · 06/04/2024 19:33

Working class. Always say pardon. If any pupils say what, I give them 'the look' and it soon becomes pardon😆

DD had a teacher who did this. We all laughed about it at home.

crumbledog · 07/04/2024 14:17

merryhouse · 07/04/2024 14:07

no, that's "pardon me"

And obviously quite a lot of people care Grin

I grew up saying what (lmc with wc roots and relatives) and began to be told by teachers to say pardon at almost exactly the same time I was becoming aware both of class distinctions in language and of the advantages that being thought higher-class might bring. (And read Jilly Cooper's seminal work a year or so later.)

The resulting confusion means I now say "sorry?"

Still cling on to lounge, settee, loo, napkin or serviette depending on context and company (yes, you absolutely can use both [eyeroll]), scent, mirror, mantelpiece, glasses, false teeth, jack, die (? I'm looking at the wikipedia page right now), jam, pudding, teacher. Take issue with their putting lounge against dining-room (two completely different things) and agree with pp that cemetery and graveyard are different too. While obviously dinner can be at either lunchtime or teatime. Grin

Pardon me, Pardon you. Tongue in cheek, where I'm from anyway. Don't think I've ever heard anyone use it seriously.

SabreIsMyFave · 07/04/2024 14:11

Gingernurt88 · 06/04/2024 19:21

"Sorry I didn't catch that" or "Sorry I didn't hear you" absolutely suffice. I think pardon is one of those words that can actually sound quite harsh without it managing to be. Sometimes it can sound like someone is barking at you like "PARDON" when actually it's their normal tone

First answer nails it (for me.) I say 'sorry?' or 'sorry - I didn't catch that.'

And I am working class, not upper-class. (A pp suggested UC say 'sorry?') I just think saying 'sorry?' when you didn't hear someone properly just sounds nicer/more polite.

'Pardon?' sounds like you're a bit annoyed, and 'what?' sounds too coarse (IMO.)

Periperipissoff · 07/04/2024 14:08

I just cup my ear and go "eh??" 🤣

merryhouse · 07/04/2024 14:07

crumbledog · 07/04/2024 00:07

Pardon, is when you're asking / need forgiveness. i.e. you've farted, loud burp etc.
Excuse me, sorry can you repeat, what -tone important.
Does any one really give a shit about this kind of stuff these days.

no, that's "pardon me"

And obviously quite a lot of people care Grin

I grew up saying what (lmc with wc roots and relatives) and began to be told by teachers to say pardon at almost exactly the same time I was becoming aware both of class distinctions in language and of the advantages that being thought higher-class might bring. (And read Jilly Cooper's seminal work a year or so later.)

The resulting confusion means I now say "sorry?"

Still cling on to lounge, settee, loo, napkin or serviette depending on context and company (yes, you absolutely can use both [eyeroll]), scent, mirror, mantelpiece, glasses, false teeth, jack, die (? I'm looking at the wikipedia page right now), jam, pudding, teacher. Take issue with their putting lounge against dining-room (two completely different things) and agree with pp that cemetery and graveyard are different too. While obviously dinner can be at either lunchtime or teatime. Grin

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:05

NewMoonontuesday · 06/04/2024 23:09

I hate the fucking word loo! So what are you supposed to say instead of lounge? Sitting room?
But I’m WC and I’m quite happy with that. Certainly don’t want to be a snobby MC.

But you are snobby, aren't you? An inverted one.

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:03

crumbledog · 07/04/2024 00:07

Pardon, is when you're asking / need forgiveness. i.e. you've farted, loud burp etc.
Excuse me, sorry can you repeat, what -tone important.
Does any one really give a shit about this kind of stuff these days.

Just never say pardon. About anything.

In those instances you would say "Excuse me", if you acknowledged them at all.

Geebray · 07/04/2024 14:02

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 10:24

Working class: What?
Middle class: Pardon?
Upper class: Sorry?

No, Upper Class is What.

youngones1 · 07/04/2024 10:24

Working class: What?
Middle class: Pardon?
Upper class: Sorry?

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