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To think the NHS makes it difficult to avoid A&E

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ArchesOfsunflowers · 06/04/2024 18:16

All the comments about people just going to A&E… but there’s so little alternative!
I try to play the rules, this time:
-GP no appointment until May
-None at 8am
-Try pharmacy for infection, looks at me like I have two heads and says go to GP
-111 really really difficult to be listened to, get callback in the end (refused to discuss both ear and throat having pus/ swelling, I had to pick one issue)
-call back hard to hear, like he’s swallowed the mic
-rude and dismissive but says he’s sending antibiotics to pharmacy. Told off for overuse of antibiotics (she’s not had any in five years???)
-pharmacy receive nothing, so restart the loop.
(Here there’s no walk in, I know some areas have them. We have GP and A&E or out of hours calls/ online consultations)

I’ve luckily not had to call them often, but with 5 children sometimes they need the GP. It’s just inaccessible here. 8am calls are the only on the day options but you end up in a queue for ages to be told there’s no appointments if you call on the dot (it goes to answerphone recorded messages before 8, no calling earlier.)

I get the funding issues. But without GP access people get funnelled to the only option. It’s not just the narrative ofthe lazy/ feckless who go there on whole family jollies to have a fun day out. It’s the fact that people can’t wait a month to see a doctor and there’s nothing else. People get sick occasionally however hard they try.

DD has huge tonsillitis, covered in pus and an ear infection with it, gunk dribbling out. I’m not going for no reason, it’s reasonable to check a child crying in pain with a high fever and pus leaking…but the system is broken. We are being told to blame each other, it’s our fault. Or to shut up because people are sicker or something.

The issue though is an under funded system that’s also got management issues that’s not fit for purpose. It’s not just time wasting for an otherwise fit for purpose system. My local hospital for example is being rebuilt with less beds, and the end of life care ended. No alternative in place, and the population has hugely increased since it was first built. It’s funding… and bizarre planning. And gatekeepers. Partly people, but a shit ton of big issues as well

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MyHuckleberryFriends · 07/04/2024 07:47

The NHS was fantastic in a life and death situation with my mum recently. She had an anaphylactic reaction to Ramipril ( blood pressure tablet she’d been on for years). Who knew you could suddenly develop an allergy to something you’d been taking for more than a decade? Her tongue and airways were so swollen she was struggling to swallow and breathe.

I drove her there. On arrival, they recognised how serious the situation was and immediately took her through. The ENT consultant saw her right away and he knew straight away it was a reaction to Ramipril. His timely diagnosis and treatment saved her life. The NHS at its best.

I feel like crying when I read your post @ArchesOfsunflowers and subsequent posts @goldenretrievermum5 @RichTea90 as you are right, there seems to be no other option but to go to A&E. I’m glad I don’t have young children now. I have watched the NHS ( where I worked for 35 years) unravel in front of my eyes over the decades.

Pixiesgirl · 07/04/2024 07:45

(Makes a sign of the cross) my gp is fine, they will usually get you in on the day or the next one. They have 3 practices and an overflow type one which is open till 7pm

DustyLee123 · 07/04/2024 07:43

Whenever I’ve been to the pharmacist they’ve said I need to see the GP, so pointless really. And if they are a health professional saying that I need to be seen, they should be able to refer me rather than me make an appointment.

Pixiesgirl · 07/04/2024 07:41

I can't identify tbh, I wouldn't wait until pus was dribbling out for anything. Why didn't you call the gp before? Surely they must have been in pain for days before, you don't go from nothing to pus dribbling (eew)

Bakersdozens · 07/04/2024 07:40

YANBU A and E is the only chance of getting any medical care of any type here. And yes, it is up to 24 hours wait, but there is absolutely no other option. You just move in and set up camp - normally on the floor for the first 10 hours. I was in A and E last year, and it was 16 hours before I even got a chair. However I would have died if I had gone home

RichTea90 · 07/04/2024 07:35

calligraphee · 07/04/2024 07:28

Yes, this is NHS 2024.

This is a political choice made by the government.

If you underfund primary care, you transfer more cases to secondary care, which costs more.

100%.

calligraphee · 07/04/2024 07:28

Yes, this is NHS 2024.

This is a political choice made by the government.

If you underfund primary care, you transfer more cases to secondary care, which costs more.

RichTea90 · 07/04/2024 07:24

YANBU - I live in SE England and it is near on impossible to get a GP appointment. The amount of times I’ve phoned 111 and been directed to Minor Injuries or A&E for issues the GP could solve would shock you.

We have to complete e-consults at my surgery and I’ve had instances where they’ve been ignored, hence then calling 111. Had a severe UTI in Jan and had to go to A&E to be seen, and to be given anti-biotics.

But like you said, GP surgeries are totally oversubscribed. There are not enough GPs to facilitate the appointments that people require. Often when I am at the GP surgery it is filled with older adults. So an ageing population is concerning.

It truly is a broken system and I feel it’s become especially worse since the COVID pandemic too.

NHS simply needs more funding, and it needs more staff.

healthadvice123 · 06/04/2024 20:26

Yanbu our a&e also has miu within it and we have some further away
drd appts here are impossible , proplr are driving down when they open to get one , but even then the queue is huge.
i did online consult the other day it came back you need to see a dr , well i kind of knew that.
the pack of Gp appts is going to cost the NHS more in the long run
the nhs is broken

goldenretrievermum5 · 06/04/2024 20:17

YANBU at all - the amount of times that the GP has told me to bring DD to A&E when it’s clear as day that she does not need to be there is absolutely ridiculous. Each time we go I genuinely apologise to the doctors as I’m embarrassed to be wasting their time on minor issues only to inevitably be told that we (surprise!) need to go back to the GP. Last time it was due to tonsillitis, not even a particularly severe case - she just needed the correct antibiotics!

Nowadays I usually pay to go to a private GP. Less hassle and things actually get sorted out without a fight

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