Man in ladies’ loo

How do you mean? What's the difference between the disgusting men in the men's toilets and the family friendly men in the family friendly toilets?

@JaffaCake70 oh behave! uncomfortable with a couple sorting their baby out together 😂 sometimes it really is a two man job if it's been an explosive one and one needs to hold baby's hands while the other is sorting the nappy... Ive been there! It hardly like he was paying anyone any attention in the loo was it 🙄 common sense needed here. If a man is in the ladies loo sans children then yes, creepy weirdo. Man in toilet with baby/small child , not creepy, just parenting.

What do you think actually goes on in men’s toilets? And why is it okay for small boys to be exposed to whatever it is but not small girls?

Time this country invested in family toilets. The fact is this countries public facilities are dire.

So it’s OK for a little girl to be exposed to all sorts in the men’s loo? No way. I’d far rather we let fathers bring their daughters into the ladies’. The sooner we move to family friendly loos the better.

When my DDs were too young to use the loo alone they went with their dad or DP into the men’s. It is possible to whisk them to the cubicle (there has always been one). They certainly aren’t damaged from the experience. This isn’t even a question that we should be asking. I repeat it is not ok for men to be in the ladies’ loos. Think of your teen daughter having a messy period and having to wash her hands in front of him, of feeling threatened by him commenting on what she’s doing. Men’s loos being disgusting is no excuse, quite often women’s loos are too, and the majority of men don’t whip everything out to pee so quite possible to take the child in to the cubicle without seeing anything untoward.

Well done on asking him to leave OP, I am quite outspoken but I think I would have been too uncomfortable and felt too vulnerable to do myself.

Id rather that than think of a young girl being taken into adult male toilets

If you want

I don’t think it’s ever been, or ever will be, a regular occurrence.

So when I'm out with my DS, I should take him to the men's toilets?

@Overthebow ..yup-is neither the girl,(s)the dad(s) nor the womens faults there is no provision. five men that care about their daughters needs.so what? And when your dd is older seeing a dad accompany his child to the touilet still isnt sinister. and at preteen?you be hope could "manage basic toilet needs byself"pretty sure ANY dad is "period aware"cos her mum proli missed em for 9mths...i never said it= a spectator sport and everybody had to leave doors open

I would have no problem with a dad using the ladies - mens toilets are too dirty for small kids and men pee out in the open. Women’s toilets have private cubicles so as long as he leaves the seat down afterwards and doesn’t miss the toilet I don’t see a problem. I find it weird that people are so precious about a place we go to wee! Surely it’s the fault of the venue for not providing adequate facilities for parents with kids.

Actually it would be his daughters problem... clearly not girls you are concerned for protecting then 🙄

If he had waited until the child was ready to burst to take her, he could have asked OP if she minded if they went in first: there's always an alternative to discussing other people's bums with your kids.
Oh and funny how millions of women manage to not let their DCs piss themselves without needing to use the men's loos - even though women's facilities are usually busier. You must be doing something wrong.

I can see why he went into the ladies, but he really wore out his welcome commenting on the op. He should have said quietly we don’t talk about others weeing in shared bathrooms darling, it’s rude. Then the op might not have been so annoyed and told him to get out when he said he was going to go too. He is entitled.

Having a child with you isn't a magic reassurance that the man has no interest in what's going on in the other cubicle. Men have done awful things with their children in the vicinity.
That's assuming the only problem is the thread of danger - people are also entitled to their privacy and dignity.

He could have carried her into men's into cubicle. He could have faced her into his chest so not looking at urinals. No excuses for making woman feel like they can't use their own facilities because a man is in there especially giving a running commentary on OP and what she might be doing in the loo. This man sounds awful to me. I've been going into the ladies before with my DD and a man has asked if I could keep an eye on his DD of about 6 and not let her lock the door. I didn't mind at all. Far better that than having him in the ladies.

Teaching her that at the expense of all other females in there. And if your DH can go in there, so can all other dads. You only don’t see lots of men doing this because most wouldn’t take their dds into the females. But what if they all decided this was the best option? At busy family places you could have 5 or men in there at the same time. And when your dd is older and starting to go into the toilets by herself there will be other men that aren’t her dad in there. And when she’s a preteen and starting her periods. Still ok then?

No there is always at least one cubicle for poo.

Men need to stay out of women's spaces and races. They have their own.

Why wouldn't the little girl be safe in a men's toilet using a cubicle with her Dad?

This. Also no need for the running commentary and very inappropriate to comment on what the lady might be doing. If he was going to wee no need at all to announce it. Almost like he was enjoying OP's discomfort. He should have waited outside or took his DC into the cubicle in the men's toilet.

@Overthebow He is teaching her that your dad will do whatever it takes to keep her "safe".id far rather he got caught in a yes,everybody else is do a wee n wipe convorsation than a "hurry up daddy SHOULDNT be in here one"....i agree is not ideal. "family toilet cubicle would potentially avoid this"but as not option. tough"

Well it’s not teaching a child that it’s a safe space when a man goes into it is it? It’s teaching his dd and any other kids in there that it’s fine for a man to go into female spaces. But it’s not and they shouldn’t be right that. I do think a decent man wouldn’t do this, I’d have serious problems with my DH if he thought this is what he should do.

NOW men know there's such a thing?

Were women's loos under some magic spell to hide them until a man stepped into them?

Newsflash - men who want to do bad things will do those bad things regardless. They will come into a ladies loo to attack them, flash them in the middle of the park, make excuses to be in changing rooms...