Man in ladies’ loo

Women don’t want men in their spaces because they are intimidated.

When this man was challenged he had 2 options, he could have been really apologetic and said he was out without another adult and didn’t know what else he could do, but he was terribly sorry for making someone uncomfortable; OR he could react aggressively. The fact he chose to react aggressively proves he should not be in a women’s space.

Do rapists and sex offenders normally indulge in their crimes with children in tow?

Well done challenging him. He definitely should not have been in there. He is teaching his DD that her boundaries and those of other women and girls don't matter.

Well, it's not really clear from the OP. Adults have a magic power though. They can tell small children not to comment on other people when the conversation turns inappropriate.

He wasn't commenting on OP, his daughter was

I can well believe it. We’ve had a spate of youngish men using women’s public toilets and staying in there just to intimidate women. I can only presume these young men watch and admire certain YouTubers

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It's the old expecting women to budge up and be kind. If everyone just used the toilet they were supposed to (by sex) it would be easy.

Man with child - uses the mens
Woman with child (boy up to 8 yrs) - womens
Parent with child with disabilities - disabled

If the mens toilets are deemed to be a problem then MEN need to sort this out. Don't make it my problem.

The man going into the womens was wrong - he should have take her into the mens and used his own toilet. I would also have said something.

I’m still wondering why people get upset about a 9 year old boy being in there with his mum, or an older boy with disabilities. People on here get REALLY worked up about it.
And then all of a sudden they’re fine with a man. A male is a male, right?

I personally wouldn’t mind if a man came in (quietly!) with his daughter. I mean it’s not ideal and I’d rather him not be there, but I would be ok if he’s quiet. But I also wouldn’t mind a mum coming in with her son either. A mum with her son is far less worse. I think there should be more understanding about mums with sons but sadly there isn’t, which is why I find this thread a bit frustrating to read.

One minute people are hating on a 9 year old boy and his mum, and the next people are totally cool with a man being in there. It does end up making it all sound like a bit of a joke really.

My dad took me into the men’s. He carried me into a stall and told me to close my eyes until we got there. Never any issues.

Family friendly loos would be single, fully equipped cubicles enclosed away from each other.

Men should in fact be aware of periods and what they entail but they're still more likely to be the squeamish one if periods come up

And, I don't know about you, but I change my period pads in the cubicle. It doesn't matter who is around (although for some they are uncomfortable enough doing it around other women too. But this is boarding on a whole other period debate)

I wasn’t talking to you. I addressed @Simonjt’s post.

Neither was I. I’m talking about public toilets

I'm pretty sure the girl of unknown age was the one making comments

And he was telling HER he was going for a wee not telling the world

But we'll never know because OP won't return

They've done their bit by making an inflammatory post and left it all to burn

i wasn’t talking about changing rooms. This thread’s about loos.

@BIossomtoes ‘Family-friendly’ loos! Teenage girls dealing with sanitary products whilst some big bloke is hanging round? How would that work? Why have women got to feel so vulnerable?? Why is it ok all of a sudden to go where you like when you like and get arsey when challenged? Tell me when the world changed cos I must’ve missed it.

Yes is it is the case, which is also why women aren’t allowed in the mens changing rooms at leisure centres etc.

Yeah, women are not welcome, and we most definitely make a fuss when they come in.

The women aren’t allowed in as it would be innapropriate for boys over about eight to be subjected to women in their toilets

That’s not the case, is it? Men don’t make a fuss about “inappropriate use” of their loos. It’s an exclusively female sport. As I said, the sooner we replace single sex loos with family friendly ones the better.

Yes this ^ This twat blithely strolled in with his kid giving zero fucks for any woman who might be in there. He then proceeded to give a running commentary which was completely odd and unnerving. Cheeky fuck

The women aren’t allowed in as it would be innapropriate for boys over about eight to be subjected to women in their toilets. The womens toilets aren’t an appropriate environment for a man, so using your logic no tiny boy should be in a womens toilets as they’re innapropriate for men.

When a little girl is taken into the men's toilets by her father, she is accompanied and therefore has some protection.

When a man goes into the women's toilets, women and young girls who expected to be in a single sex space have had that removed without warning.

Ffs- no! The accessible toilets are for disabled people not able bodied people who could perfectly well use the normal toilets.

Same reason as you think it’s not OK for women to be exposed to men in loos. If you really can’t see the utter lack of logic in expecting a tiny girl to go into an environment you consider inappropriate for a grown woman there’s frankly no hope for you. At what age does “vulnerability” kick in and why do you think little girls are exempt from it?

The majority of rapists and sex offenders are also parents. If your concern is safety then the man having a child with him really means fuck all (despite all the stereotypes about weird loners). Either it’s single sex for a reason or all toilets are unisex. But a man having a kid doesn’t make him “safe”.

Or the family friendly men in the ladies?