Man in ladies’ loo

Seriously you've never smelt a man's public loo often a little used stairwell in an old car park smells better.

All this "grown men should never be in a ladies loo", ignoring the idea of male cleaner etc, makes me think of Dinnerladies

"Male maintainace man entering female toilet premise for nut adjustment"

How likely is it that the gents would have been heaving with men standing at the urinals? Not very. When we were tiny our mum used to hold us under a tree or something to wee. All outdated now I suppose

Dd goes with the man into the male toilets. A woman wouldn't take a boy into the men's ffs. Dp has never had issues doing this.

If they’re that bad then would you expect him to take a ds into then or would you think he would take ds into the females loos too? My dd goes into the men’s with my DH and they’ve always been fine, we haven’t been anywhere where they are grim.

It doesn’t even cross women’s minds to do this to men. It shouldn’t cross men’s minds to do it to women. And they should bloody well know because they won’t have seen any mothers taking their sons into the mens to pee.

I think he was right to take his little daughter into a cubicle in the female toilet area rather than into the men’s toilet and have her walk by men peeing in the urinals.

How old was the kid? And do you know if the men’s has cubicles or just urinals? I wouldn’t be thrilled with a very young girl going into loos alone, but his conversation was downright weird.

Is the little girl meant to hold it in until.then?

Men's toilets are absolutely grim and not safe places. Personally i wouldn't have any problem with a man taking his daughter into a ladies cubicle. It's not as if it's open plan.

I would not be comfortable with a male in the female toilets. He should not be in there. DH takes our dd into the men’s with him or goes into the disabled toilet if it’s an allocated baby change too. He never takes her into the female toilets. Good on you for speaking up op.

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I’m lol

I am not saying this is the case here but pervy men have kids too. When I worked in retail there was a couple of dad's who were known to encourage their small dc to run at changing rooms so they could get an eyeful or even follow them in.

Is he not in this instance trying to protect the comfort and dignity of his daughter though? I agree it's less than ideal but it does sound like that was his intention.

The running commentary would make me feel a bit uncomfortable too and I would've said to my child that it's private what other people do in loos.

The father going for a pee whilst he was there wouldn't bother me unless he was pissing in the sink, up the walls or waving his penis in everyone's faces. In a locked cubicle, not a problem (but that's just me and we're all different)

I would prefer that the child was in the ladies toilets rather than the gents.

I get that about male cleaners and you’re right but this to me is about entitlement. When the kid was blathering on about who was doing what in the other lol surely he should’ve said “none of your business” Was it him that said weeing or wiping bum??

Yeah fuck the comfort and dignity of grown women eh J? Male privilege is so much more hilarious. 🙄

I do think it's different as womens loos don't have a communal aspect. It's individual cubicles not public urinals.

I wouldn’t care. Male cleaning staff are in ladies public toilets all the time. I don’t see the harm that one person could do, accompanied by their young daughter, when they’re clearly in those bathrooms for that reason

I'm really surprised at all the posters saying he should bring a young female child into male public toilets where she could witness anything given the use of urinals. I wouldn't feel comfortable with my child doing that. I also wouldn't send a young child into the toilets alone either so unless there's a disabled/ accessible toilet he's in a lose lose situation. In that instance I wouldn't have had a problem with it. And why would you expect him to leave without using the toilet himself- he can't leave his child outside the men's.

Definitely a less than desirable situation and tbh it for me shows the need for some gender neutral provision that doesn't take away from those who need disabled access bathrooms.

When she was asking questions about what you were doing he should have said it’s rude to talk/ask about other peoples toileting as it’s private.

Having said that he should have gone to the men’s with his daughter.

@Jharris8 All smacks of entitlement to me. Take her in the gents. Who wants a big geezer in the ladies loo

Ultimately this is such a non-issue. He wasn’t in the women’s toilets for bad reasons, he was taking his daughter. Male cleaners are in toilets all the time. I really don’t see why anyone is so bothered and I wouldn’t even think twice about this especially if the child was young.

He should take her into the men's. If the men's toilets are unsuitable/dirty, he and other fathers should campaign for them to be improved. Women had to fight to get decent, safe bathrooms, men can too.

It’s not ok for a grown man to be in the ladies‘ loo. The child should go with the adult. I’d hate to have this if my tween was in there alone. Definitely not ok for him to go either.