Man in ladies’ loo

The issue is, not only was he in a space that he arguably shouldn't have been in. Or at the very least, felt awkward/apologetic about being in. He completely dominated the space and made you feel uncomfortable.

If he'd been quiet and sheepish I doubt it would have bothered you so much. It's the entitlement that's so galling.

No ideal but understandable, initially.
Something very wrong with the running commentary and his own pee announcement. Not surprised he became aggressive, the whole circus had more to do with him and his weirdness than his daughter's needs. Weirdo.

Personally I think all the issues could be solved by better provision of stand alone, gender neutral, family cubicles, complete with baby change.

WRT to the OP, I think the commentary is plain rude, but I understand why the DF took his DD in but also understand why it made OP uncomfortable. I don't understand what difference it made that the DF also used the loo once he was in there though.

Sorry, but women not taking their DS into the mens is nothing to do with caring about the dignity of men, it is to do with perceived safety, as you can see from the numerous threads on the subject.

And if you read those threads, you'll see how many of those women also don't care about the dignity of other women, by insisting boys of 10, 12, even 14 come into the ladies with them.

He made a great announcement that he was in there. Therein lies the problem

I have a very clear and upsetting memory of being taken into a public men's toilet by my dad aged about 5. In hindsight he must have had no other option but I genuinely found it frightening and the memory of that discomfort has stayed with me. I had never seen an adult penis before (I did have a baby brother), and I can't explain it any other way except that I had the strong and distinct feeling that it was wrong and unsafe for me to be around them.
For context, we'd arrived in the UK the previous year from a war zone, so its not like I was this really sheltered, molly-coddled child who took fright at everything. But this particular situation felt wrong and upsetting.
Also for context, I'm as GC as they come. Only biological women belong in women's toilets IMO.... except when the alternative is taking a young girl into the men's toilet. I think his mistake was announcing "I'm also going to do a wee". Presumably he was in a separate cubicle from the OP so she'd have been none the wiser if he hadn't said anything.

So true. I mean they couldn’t possibly do that already, what with the penis repelling forcefield installed at the door of every ladies loo.

I think if males aren’t allowed in a female space then it should apply to men coming in with their daughters too.

If it’s not ok for an 11 year old boy to come in to a female space with his mum, then it shouldn’t be ok for a grown arsed man to come in to a female space with his daughter. Only a total hypocrite would say an 11 year old boy can’t but a grown arsed man can, no matter what his reasons are regarding helping/“protecting” his daughter.

Don’t hate men; just don’t want them in my space. If you do, good for you but I and many many others don’t.

No decent man would go into a woman’s toilets to start with…

Have you never encountered poor toilet hygiene from men? I think you might be in the minority if you haven't.

On the contrary. I have a DH and two sons. Trust me, I’ve wiped some piss over the years

The amount I've had to wipe off seats in the women's, it will make no difference.

I forget how much this forum hates men.

And then we have to put up with men's woeful toilet hygiene and smelly wee. No thanks.

No worse than already happens with hoverers.

Same

Purely individual cubicles, all self-contained, will stop the hysteria...

Wait, no, men sneak into those and put cameras up 😒

Yeh with piss all over the seats. Can’t wait

Do we know how old the kid was?? Yes it’s the running commentary that’s the piss take (excuse the pun). Why the conversation? Get in. Get out. Why the need to speculate if a woman in the other loo is wiping anything. Utterly bizarre. If he’d kept his mouth shut OP would’ve been none the wiser

I can't wait until we have those brilliant unisex loos everywhere. The ones that are just individual cubicles/rooms with the loo, sink and dryer.

No more of this who's in the loo nonsense.

It's one of those situations where there is no one right answer, until family / unisex bathrooms (alongside single sex bathrooms) become common.

What if it had been a 10yo girl he had followed in there (in addition to his DD)? Is that still OK?

Hrs normalising men in womans toilets to his child, and making her vulnerable in the future

I get that. But the running commentary is not necessary. My DH was a very hands on dad but would never have taken our dds into a women’s loo. It would be the disabled toilets or in an emergency when they were tiny, a male cubicle. When they were older he would have sent them in to the ladies on their own but stand outside shouting to them to ask if they were alright!

If in a cubicle I think he was fine. Fine to do a wee too. Not fine to be discussing you.

Why would it matter if it was busy with men using the urinals? Or is this another thread were posters know men who lift their children up and encourage them to look around a mans shoulders, rather than just walk behind them.