Man in ladies’ loo

So more men in the ladies then...

I find it ironic that womens loos can be covered in piss too particularly when women squat to avoid the pee of the previous user, thus perpetuating the women's pee on toilet seats vicious circle

The running commentary is weird - especially commenting about another person. It would be OK if he was saying to his daughter things like 'don't forget, we flush the toilet before leaving' or 'remember, it's important to wash our hands after using the toilet' but commenting on others is weird and unnecessary.

I think he should have taken the girl in the men's with him, assuming she was quite young and couldn't be left. My brother used to do this when his daughter was very young.

I used to take my son into the ladies with me when he was too young to go alone/be left. He is 10 now so can go to the men's and I would wait outside. I am very particular about which public toilets we use though!

I've yet to come across a women's toilet where your shoe soles stick to the floor because of encrusted urine.

When my OH took our 2 girls out on his own they always used the men’s loos until they were of a age to go in the women’s in their own,I would expect the same of a woman taking her sons out too, you would never normally see a woman going into a man’s toilet with her son so why would it be acceptable the other way round? I caveat this as being a uk thing as I’ve been to some unisex loos abroad where they still have urinals as well as cubicles despite it being unisex.

Wouldn’t have allowed any of my children at that age to go to the toilet on their own, not because of a random man with a toddler, but because if a perv wants to perv they will do it regardless, so it’s always a risk.

In fact, the random man with a toddler might be a good deterrent for a perv.

If this really happened, then I think you were
Completely right to be annoyed and the father had no right at all to be in the ladies, toilets. However, why didn't you say something to him if he went into the toilets at the same time as you? I agree with other posters that he could have used the disabled toilet, if there was one, but If the child was able to manage in the cubicle without her father being in with her, then why could he not have waited by the door outside, where he could still have called out to her.

Why should the OP have been made to feel uncomfortable with the dad announcing he was gonna do a big piss whilst wondering if she was wiping her privates??

No fucking way until they're all equipped with splashback paint covering seats and floor and big signs put up mandating sitting-down use only.

I had this the other day too, in Tesco, but I was on way in and man and young daughter were leaving. NO WAY is this ok! Men take daughters into men’s loo with them, until they are old enough to go alone. I am appalled anyone thinks otherwise. Well done for calling him out.

I’m not being silly, but thanks for the charming comment. Oddly, I’m not used to going into men’s loos, aren’t some just urinals sometimes?

Oh have we moved on from the “safe spaces” stuff now onto “poor hygiene and smelly wee”.

Exactly

Don't be silly. Even men aren't defecating out in the open.

So people are perfectly happy with 8, 9 10yo girls, going to the toilet alone, being followed in there by a random man who just happens to have a toddler?

Seems sensible, but there will be posters who won't apply common sense if they see a threat to biological women's spaces.

It was a cubicle not a communal area.

😂😂 And why do you think it’s in the news? 🤔

I agree, I'd have been incredibly uncomfortable as a young girl being brought into a men's bathroom especially with men's genitalia out in use. Why should a young girl be put in that position.

Not very nice for the girl having to see men pissing in the urinals though.

Yes you are being unreasonable. No one was doing anything they shouldn’t be in there and what’s the difference between a man’s piss running into the toilet in a private cubicle a womans. Get a grip.

@RawBloomers I understand what you're saying and the element of privilege, but men's and womens toilets usually have a different set up with men's toilets containing communal urinals. For that reason i do think it is very different.

When my dad took us to the swimming pool he always changed all three of us girls in the mens until we were 8 or so.

He should have brought her in the mens, if he's not man enough to protect her while going in there then that is his problem.

Noooo because this never happens and is not constantly in the news. We're all going crazy and just imagining it!

Who do people think the men's toilets are unsafe for a child with her father? Presumably no one is going to do anything with him there?
And my (male) DC confirm that you don't see penises when you're in there. Unless you're at the urinal and you actually look, which no one does.
Hygiene could be an issue in there to be fair, but men still have no place in the women's.

As for gender neutral, floor to ceiling etc. No thanks. I went in one recently after a teenage lad. There was piss on the toilet seat and the floor. Fucking grim.