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Man in ladies’ loo

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Suburbanrunner · 06/04/2024 13:47

I was out running earlier today and stopped to go to the loo in a local park. A man came in at the same time with his young daughter and went into the cubicle next to me. As she went to the loo the father and daughter talked through all the steps they were taking and also commented on me ie is that lady also doing a wee, is she wiping her bum etc. I felt a bit uncomfortable and thought I’d wait for them to leave. However the father then proceeded to say that as they were there he was going to have a wee too. At this point I couldn’t take any more and said could you not do that, please can you go in the men’s. He got pretty aggressive saying what else was he meant to do as he had his young daughter with him. I felt so uncomfortable at this stage that I left (without going to the loo!)
Now I’m questioning myself - aibu to be annoyed he was in the loos? Or was he perfectly within his rights to bring his daughter into the women’s loos and also use them himself?
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anothernamitynamenamechange · 08/06/2024 19:44

I think it would be less annoying if he was sort of apologetic and embarrassed about being there. Not embarrassed exactly but generally signalling that he knew it was awkward but didn't have any choice. Rather than "chat chat chat, yes that lady is wiping her bum, chat chat Ill have a wee too"

Ohdearydeary · 08/06/2024 19:38

Overthebow · 08/06/2024 19:03

That’s the same if there’s another disabled person occupying the toilet, or if it’s a child. In lots of places there’s the baby change in the disabled loo so it doubles as a family change space. Disabled toilets don’t mean there’s no wait. Sometimes the regular toilets have a shorter wait then the disabled one if there’s a baby change in it.

No it isn’t the same. If you have to wait for another disabled person then that’s life- they need and have a right to be there.

Random people who think it’s okay to take that facility away from the people who need it are just selfish and entitled.

Overthebow · 08/06/2024 19:03

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That’s the same if there’s another disabled person occupying the toilet, or if it’s a child. In lots of places there’s the baby change in the disabled loo so it doubles as a family change space. Disabled toilets don’t mean there’s no wait. Sometimes the regular toilets have a shorter wait then the disabled one if there’s a baby change in it.

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ButWhatAboutTheBees · 08/04/2024 13:57

Gravelgraze · 08/04/2024 09:50

Here’s another point to consider. Some disabled toilets are within the main toilet block, just a wider accessible cubicle.

If it’s a female carer accompanying a male who requires toilet assistance should they use the accessible cubicle in the male toilet or female toilet area?

I’ve found myself in that situation several times while out and about with an adult male relative with a learning disability who required full assistance in toilet. I’ve tried both options and been met with tuts and disapproval in both the male and female toilets 🤷‍♀️

For the dignity of the person who needs care then I'd say you would use THEIR toilet.
I know a gentleman who used to have to do this with his wife

Which is why we would ideally have all toilets accessible and single cubicle

Gravelgraze · 08/04/2024 10:43

Apologies. Like a previous poster now my post has appeared in triplicate 😳

Gravelgraze · 08/04/2024 10:32

Cazpar · 08/04/2024 09:53

In my personal opinion, I would say do what you think is best in that circumstance and ignore the tutting. I personally would not begrudge you using the accessible cubicle of the women's loos in that case.

It's not your fault that proper toilet provision isn't commonplace.

It can be a tricky situation but my preference if faced with it is to take him in the accessible cubicle in the female toilet . Simply because from experience it’s likely to be cleaner. If I have to take him in the male toilet area I announce my arrival “excuse us but we need to use the disabled cubicle” But of course by the time we exit the cubicle there could be someone mid stream at the urinals.

Despite keeping my back turned on urinal area I’ve had the occasional FFS comment. I’ve also had similar disapproval in the female toilet area but overall people are very understanding.

Gravelgraze · 08/04/2024 10:32

Cazpar · 08/04/2024 09:53

In my personal opinion, I would say do what you think is best in that circumstance and ignore the tutting. I personally would not begrudge you using the accessible cubicle of the women's loos in that case.

It's not your fault that proper toilet provision isn't commonplace.

It can be a tricky situation but my preference if faced with it is to take him in the accessible cubicle in the female toilet . Simply because from experience it’s likely to be cleaner. If I have to take him in the male toilet area I announce my arrival “excuse us but we need to use the disabled cubicle” But of course by the time we exit the cubicle there could be someone mid stream at the urinals.

Despite keeping my back turned on urinal area I’ve had the occasional FFS comment. I’ve also had similar disapproval in the female toilet area but overall people are very understanding.

Gravelgraze · 08/04/2024 10:32

Cazpar · 08/04/2024 09:53

In my personal opinion, I would say do what you think is best in that circumstance and ignore the tutting. I personally would not begrudge you using the accessible cubicle of the women's loos in that case.

It's not your fault that proper toilet provision isn't commonplace.

It can be a tricky situation but my preference if faced with it is to take him in the accessible cubicle in the female toilet . Simply because from experience it’s likely to be cleaner. If I have to take him in the male toilet area I announce my arrival “excuse us but we need to use the disabled cubicle” But of course by the time we exit the cubicle there could be someone mid stream at the urinals.

Despite keeping my back turned on urinal area I’ve had the occasional FFS comment. I’ve also had similar disapproval in the female toilet area but overall people are very understanding.

funinthesun19 · 08/04/2024 09:54

Oops. Internet signal is shite today. Didn’t mean to post that three times!

Cazpar · 08/04/2024 09:53

Gravelgraze · 08/04/2024 09:50

Here’s another point to consider. Some disabled toilets are within the main toilet block, just a wider accessible cubicle.

If it’s a female carer accompanying a male who requires toilet assistance should they use the accessible cubicle in the male toilet or female toilet area?

I’ve found myself in that situation several times while out and about with an adult male relative with a learning disability who required full assistance in toilet. I’ve tried both options and been met with tuts and disapproval in both the male and female toilets 🤷‍♀️

In my personal opinion, I would say do what you think is best in that circumstance and ignore the tutting. I personally would not begrudge you using the accessible cubicle of the women's loos in that case.

It's not your fault that proper toilet provision isn't commonplace.

funinthesun19 · 08/04/2024 09:53

GreyCarpet · 07/04/2024 15:23

I used to take my son for a wee behind a tree tbh. That seems to be what most parents do with sons.

And then you’ll see a thread on here from some whingebag complaining because they spotted a mum letting her son have a wee outdoors. 🤦🏼‍♀️

funinthesun19 · 08/04/2024 09:53

GreyCarpet · 07/04/2024 15:23

I used to take my son for a wee behind a tree tbh. That seems to be what most parents do with sons.

And then you’ll see a thread on here from some whingebag complaining because they spotted a mum letting her son have a wee outdoors. 🤦🏼‍♀️

funinthesun19 · 08/04/2024 09:53

GreyCarpet · 07/04/2024 15:23

I used to take my son for a wee behind a tree tbh. That seems to be what most parents do with sons.

And then you’ll see a thread on here from some whingebag complaining because they spotted a mum letting her son have a wee outdoors. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Gravelgraze · 08/04/2024 09:50

Here’s another point to consider. Some disabled toilets are within the main toilet block, just a wider accessible cubicle.

If it’s a female carer accompanying a male who requires toilet assistance should they use the accessible cubicle in the male toilet or female toilet area?

I’ve found myself in that situation several times while out and about with an adult male relative with a learning disability who required full assistance in toilet. I’ve tried both options and been met with tuts and disapproval in both the male and female toilets 🤷‍♀️

Notamum12345577 · 07/04/2024 23:07

Overthebow · 06/04/2024 23:28

Often the disabled also has the unisex baby change facilities so we use them a lot with our DC. We don’t if there’s no baby change in them.

That’s a fair point

RufustheFactualReindeer · 07/04/2024 21:21

And no one is cheering anything for goodness sake

RufustheFactualReindeer · 07/04/2024 21:21

Males of any age weeing in public is not ok

very small children of both either sex may (rarely ) need to wee behind a tree or bush

deragod · 07/04/2024 21:13

Oh, now we are cheering on marking the public space. entitlement to do how a man pleases at its finest.
But funny how men at urinals are not a sight for little girls however males of all ages peeing in public are okey.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 07/04/2024 21:02

underthinker

😀

Underthinker · 07/04/2024 20:43

"What did my exh used to do with our son?" But then I realised that it was always a tree.

Was it a yew-rinal?

gettingbackonit23 · 07/04/2024 19:54

And surely it would be bad for a male child to see an exposed penis if it was the case that blokes in the men’s toilets run round with their cocks out?

Maelil01 · 07/04/2024 19:23

“due to the exposed urinals(?!?!) and strangers penises.
How is a urinal alarming?

As for strangers’ penises that’s just ridiculous. A man’s penis is enclosed by the surround of the urinal and not visible unless you stick your face around the side of the urinal. Presumably a child accompanied by their father would not do that.

gettingbackonit23 · 07/04/2024 18:07

Nowayhayday · 07/04/2024 15:20

So should a dad also talk a small boy into the women's toilets, since he would be as likely to dislike the smell and be shocked by all the men?

Exactly

gettingbackonit23 · 07/04/2024 18:05

Clarabell77 · 07/04/2024 11:31

Do rapists and sex offenders normally indulge in their crimes with children in tow?

Some do. Read about Colin Pitchfork.