To think the UK has gone to hell in a handcart?

@Superlambaanana (oh!) but big companies and their ceos can do whatever the fuck they want, their only accountability is to big money. It's not like they have anything to fear from the public.

You've never been on a protest march? Maybe join in one, maybe be part of a campaign, that's what I did.
Then stand for office, or campaign for somebody you support.
You can be part of change, but you have to be proactive.

No I don't agree. I think the majority of people in this country don't know they're born. As the daughter of a refugee it really fucks me off.

Yes there are some corrupt, dickhead politicians but at the end of the day we live in a democracy and you can vote them out.

There are multiple other issues but it doesn't mean this is a shit country to live in.

And let us not even get into the elephant in the room about us looking like a third world country. All thats working out really well too in my opinion. ..ffs

Exactly. No accountability of anyone at the top.

You or I can be jailed for lying about who was driving a speeding car. We’re still waiting for Tony Blair to be jailed for his massive lie.

As for Johnson: where do we even begin? He should be jailed for lying under oath to the privileges committee.

This is not what this country use to be about and it’s perfectly normal to mourn what was once a relatively good place to live. I use to feel proud in my younger days of this country and even though I have never been a Tory voter, I never felt as I do now about this government and th big companies behaving so underhand and corrupt.

I used to think our political system had standards and some ethics but I think that’s gone now.

I go further and many national institutions like police forces and Post office have lost their standards as people seem to have no shame any more.

I was eye rolling very hard at all the MP giving the MP a pass for sharing explicit pictures and then giving into blackmail rather than taking a deep breath and contacting the police - as if this was in any way acceptable behavior. My 17 knows not to send explicit pictures so why the fuck doesn't a grown ass man in a position of considerable authority.

Has the UK ever been a place where rich people were called to account?

Or are we just more def up than ever with the blatant corruption, elitism and the rich so very obviously protecting the rich.

In fairness, several of those may be the subject of legal action at some point.

A related scandal is the way the courts service and the CPS has been pared down to levels where justice is either poorly served, not available or very costly to many - research the so-called Innocence Tax if you're interested. It's explored very thoughtfully in The Secret Barrister. Unfortunately it's not a cause that features highly with most voters.

The most recent example ..the MP who flashed his bits on Grinder and gave out MPs phone numbers..ffs Wheres the sense? He could have put so many people in danger but OH no he is a poor victim.His apology was BRAVE and couragous. I mean really are we all supposed to swallow that? He should have stayed the private wanker he was but Parliament have full confidence in him..Glad they do cos I dont . Ultimate tosser in my view and probably everyone else who saw his videos!!!

What would you like to do?
Emigrate? Stand for office? Set up a charity?
Campaign in some way?

I agree OP the level of incompetence + brazen profiteering is totally insane. And it's move on, nothing to see here. Plugging of holes with chewing gum and distracting with non-issues. No long term thoughts, everyone just sitting at the through pigging out, from top to bottom.
In politics, here are no leaders, no long view, nothing.

I travel quite a lot and it's shocking to come back to the UK and compare what we are getting for our taxes, it's a complete joke. Feels like the country is being asset stripped. The col is just carte blanche to seemingly sink the economy and really screw people?

Totally agree with your examples, OP. I would add that captain Tom’s daughter to your list.

I’d love to see a similar list of people in the public eye who have genuinely done good stuff, or even policies and politicians that have benefited people in this country. But I can’t think of any examples right now!

Maybe so but this is the one we live in and it's not a race to the bottom.

You’re not wrong OP it’s the lack of consequences/accountability I struggle with.

the line from the great gatsby resonates with me about all this “They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made” they have smashed everything up and then fucked off with their wealth leaving other ppl to try and sort it out

I feel I’ve been screaming about this for years and years.

I too am ashamed of this country now. I look at the state of it and it makes me angry and hopeless in equal measures. I think the UK is all but finished as we ever knew it and not for the good.This is Britain someone took the Great bit out of it and it wont come back.