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I feel like my daughters dance school is inappropriate

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grossedouteurgh · 05/04/2024 23:48

Got back this evening from my daughter's dance school performance at the local arts center and was horrified.

Prefacing this by saying I have had a few issues in the past with what I feel is money grabbing (introduced a charge of £20 recently to drop kids off in the car park. Their studio is on an industrial estate - why?!! This only serves to put safety at risks/makes money).

Also feel they have such a feeling of superiority and favouritism at the school which I don't think is healthy to foster in teens and pre teens.

Anyway, got home this evening from the Easter dance show and literally feel sick. I've seen more clothes on moulin rouge dancers and the way they had them gyrating over the stage is just gross. I filmed some of it because it genuinely felt like a strip club, and if that was my daughter I'd be horrified (she's still in a class below).

I obviously won't share but we're talking flash dance style, suspenders, gyrating... from 15/16/17 y olds.

It made me feel so awful.

I guess the parents in this situation are brainwashed by the school and it's a step to the next thing?

What can I do? I don't want to let this lie.

OP posts:
grossedouteurgh · 06/04/2024 07:59

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 06/04/2024 02:52

You thought they were inappropriately dressed and dancing and yet filmed it?
Weird

You aren't supposed to record in dance school shows for Safeguarding as it is!

Let alone because the girls are too "sexy"

The dance school filmed it themselves last night for a dvd to sell (which is something else that makes me feel uncomfortable!)

That said, when I was a kid I was active in dance - nothing like this, it was skilled, not titillating and we wore proper clothes! - the man who ran the videography business that would record it got done for having indecent child images on his computer:

OP posts:
LolaSmiles · 06/04/2024 07:59

I understand why you feel uncomfortable.

It's possible for teen students to learn how to dance in heels without performing overly sexualised routines.

FawnFrenchieMum · 06/04/2024 07:57

To be honest if it’s a genuinely high standard dance school then a good number of the 15/16 year old girls will be going to dance college in September. They will be expected to be able to dance in heels and be able to dance in all styles including musicals and dance video content. What you’re saying isn’t unusual. I assume the parents had all seen (and paid for) the costume before the show. You can remove your DD but leave it to the other parents to parent their children.

Viviennemary · 06/04/2024 07:57

Just leave if you are not happy. Not worth the angst of complaining.

Lurkingandlearning · 06/04/2024 07:56

If they do GCSEs will they be regulated by Ofsted? That might be the place to report it to

Pointey · 06/04/2024 07:55

Whether this is true or not, for anyone looking for a dance school that is strict about modesty and appropriateness for children, IME Cecchetti ballet teaching does this.

I’d also look for a school that rarely does competitions, and look at it a social media to see if only the same few feature or if lots of children of various body shapes are shown.

Kta7 · 06/04/2024 07:54

VestibuleVirgin · 06/04/2024 06:58

Centre
Sorry, bad day; just very sick of creeping Americanisation of this country, including incprrect spelling of English words!

Could I suggest taking a deep breath and letting the spelling observations slide 😉

LuciferRising · 06/04/2024 07:52

We simply changed dance schools. Easy enough.

DD does dance and martial arts. Brilliant combination.

ASighMadeOfStone · 06/04/2024 07:52

VestibuleVirgin · 06/04/2024 06:58

Centre
Sorry, bad day; just very sick of creeping Americanisation of this country, including incprrect spelling of English words!

"The late Middle English word center came before the Old French centre (pronounced “saunt” in French). It began to refer to “the middle of something” in the 16th century, and center was Shakespeare’s preferred spelling as well, as it turned up ten times in his plays (centre appears only once). However, the French-inspired centre became the British spelling convention in the 17th and 18th centuries, especially after British writer Samuel Johnson included centre in his 1755 Dictionary of the English Language."

Education is a wonderful thing. "Centre" is the one that "crept in". American English is generally truer to the etymological origins.

Good to see Muphry got you though.

CrikeyMajikey · 06/04/2024 07:52

Presumably the parents of the girls doing Chicago were well aware of the costumes?

I agree some dances are way over the top and sexualised for young girls and it makes uncomfortable watching.

The charge for drop of is appalling, I’d approach the owners of the industrial estate.

ASighMadeOfStone · 06/04/2024 07:50

surreygirl1987 · 06/04/2024 07:48

I don't feel like it's enough to pull my daughter out though

You've literally used the word 'grooming'.

"She"'s also said further on she is definitely pulling the daughter out. That was quick...

StinkyWizzleteets · 06/04/2024 07:49

When do the schools go back? These threads are tedious.

surreygirl1987 · 06/04/2024 07:48

I don't feel like it's enough to pull my daughter out though

You've literally used the word 'grooming'.

ASighMadeOfStone · 06/04/2024 07:47

Mumdiva99 · 06/04/2024 07:03

I've reported a few. It's still the Easter Holidays.....drunk adults or kids messing around.

It's pervs when teenage girls and skimpy clothes are mentioned.

fashionqueen1183 · 06/04/2024 07:46

grossedouteurgh · 06/04/2024 00:13

Quite: they put up cones on the road to force parents to pay

But surely they don’t own a public road on the estate?
I can’t believe they would actually have staff manning cones. I’ve never heard anything like it.
What if someone warns to access the estate who works there? You could surely report this to the council. Or just drive through and say no. They’re not the police. Who would pay an extra £20 per lesson!

Otherstories2002 · 06/04/2024 07:45

LanaL · 06/04/2024 07:41

If you don’t like it , then don’t send your daughter there - but the fact is that the parents of the girls actually dancing this dance and wearing these outfits are clearly ok with it so you can’t really do anything about it and I don’t think you should either . You’re going to try and stop girls doing something they enjoy , which they have permission for , as well as probably affect the dance teachers career just because YOU don’t agree with it?!

Burlesque is actually about empowering women . It’s not the same as pole dancing or stripping ( though I would just like to say I have no issues with those either - although wouldn’t agree with a child doing it ) . Nothing is being removed . Dancing in heels is an art form , a skill , and fantastic for fitness . My stepdaughter does this with her dance class , she does other styles of dancing too but does this - and yes when I first saw I was like “ wow - wtf “ but then when I really watched and I saw the amazing skill of her dancing , the way she changed as a person in terms of her confidence , the way it helped with all issues she had had in her life with school, mental health etc and just made everything else in her life positive I realised that it’s that what should be focused on not the fact that every time a female shows a bit of skin it gets sexualised !

Dancing is an art form . They’re not getting these girls to strip off and have money slipped in their suspender belt ! Suspenders belts themselves were there to make women more comfortable and stop their stockings falling down but once again - sexualised ! 😡

Im sure people will disagree with me , and quite frankly I don’t really care , but in my personal opinion OP you need to open your mind a bit and step back too .. not your children , not your business . Calm down .

Also - they’re not going to let random men just buy tickets for the show 🙄

Totally agree with you.

Otherstories2002 · 06/04/2024 07:44

grossedouteurgh · 06/04/2024 00:12

@BettyShagter i would like to know if there's something i can do to protect other young girls from this, if there's a place to report. Because we know how to report straight up abuse but how can we flag dance school grooming?

They aren’t grooming them. It’s a show. Give over.

Livelovebehappy · 06/04/2024 07:43

i would guess the only place you can escalate this to is the Dance School owners. They’re clearly not breaking any laws or it would have come to the attention of the police and authorities. And it’s doubtful the owners are going to change what they do, and it will only ostracise you and your daughter. Your options as far as I can see are to either complain then pull your daughter from the dance class, or allow her to continue as you say she loves it there.

LanaL · 06/04/2024 07:41

If you don’t like it , then don’t send your daughter there - but the fact is that the parents of the girls actually dancing this dance and wearing these outfits are clearly ok with it so you can’t really do anything about it and I don’t think you should either . You’re going to try and stop girls doing something they enjoy , which they have permission for , as well as probably affect the dance teachers career just because YOU don’t agree with it?!

Burlesque is actually about empowering women . It’s not the same as pole dancing or stripping ( though I would just like to say I have no issues with those either - although wouldn’t agree with a child doing it ) . Nothing is being removed . Dancing in heels is an art form , a skill , and fantastic for fitness . My stepdaughter does this with her dance class , she does other styles of dancing too but does this - and yes when I first saw I was like “ wow - wtf “ but then when I really watched and I saw the amazing skill of her dancing , the way she changed as a person in terms of her confidence , the way it helped with all issues she had had in her life with school, mental health etc and just made everything else in her life positive I realised that it’s that what should be focused on not the fact that every time a female shows a bit of skin it gets sexualised !

Dancing is an art form . They’re not getting these girls to strip off and have money slipped in their suspender belt ! Suspenders belts themselves were there to make women more comfortable and stop their stockings falling down but once again - sexualised ! 😡

Im sure people will disagree with me , and quite frankly I don’t really care , but in my personal opinion OP you need to open your mind a bit and step back too .. not your children , not your business . Calm down .

Also - they’re not going to let random men just buy tickets for the show 🙄

ThreeLocusts · 06/04/2024 07:39

OP I'd try to talk to your daughter's friends' parents, see if there's a couple who are also interested in changing school. So your dd doesn't lose the whole network by changing dance school.

And indeed, what's with the trolls? Ignore BettyShagter, she's off her rocker. Hope it all works out.

RedHelenB · 06/04/2024 07:36

grossedouteurgh · 06/04/2024 00:28

@BettyShagter are you ok? I will obviously be pulling my daughter out, but I would like to know how I can protect others by way of reporting

There's no obvious about it from reading your posts. Chicago is a popular musical, I personally don't think it's that big a deal at ages 15 -16 and don't know what it is that you'd be reporting.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 06/04/2024 07:25

I picked my kids dance school to avoid this sort of thing. Sadly many are like this.

You need to find somewhere else.

ButterCrackers · 06/04/2024 07:21

Time to find another dance school. I’d be horrified as well. My kids do sport and this is good for team work and they all have fun. Perhaps change to sport but otherwise find another dance school.

Londonrach1 · 06/04/2024 07:20

Yes. All dance schools near us like this. Dd has left now as said not fair the same children are chosen. Parents also not allowed to wait in the cafe in the building but outside in the rain.

Baystar · 06/04/2024 07:19

@grossedouteurgh if it was a ticketed performance, your local authority have probably licensed the show, via a BOPA or individual performance licences. Flag it with them if you have concerns, just search child entertainment and employment in whichever LA you're in and you should be able to find an email, contact number.