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To take a job with the DWP even though I will lose friends

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Sunsnet · 05/04/2024 17:50

I currently work a minimum wage job in retail. It's long hours, exhausting and for really shitty money. Sometimes I earn less than minimum wage as I'm salaried and not entitled to overtime.

I've just been offered a job with the DWP. I'll earn 50% more, have a WAY better pension plus more benefits. I'll even be able to work fewer hours so I can spend more time with my family and STILL be better off than now. BUT, I have friends who think the DWP is immoral and by working for them I will be implicit in that immorality.

I agree that the way the DWP works at the moment is immoral, but surely we need good people to work there to ensure that people who need the help and are entitled to it actually get it. Or am I just clutching at straws to justify my position?

I have one friend in particular who says they will never speak to me again if I take the job. This friend is independently wealthy and never needs to work again, I am not. I do not own property, have a family to support, I'm a single parent and I have no qualifications so have no hope of a better job.

Would I really be that awful a person to sell out and take this job?

OP posts:
Alwaysmoremonththanwages · 06/04/2024 19:04

Take the job and congratulations on getting through the selection process OP 💐

queenMab99 · 06/04/2024 19:00

So they would rather you worked for a capitalist retail company, who are profiting from the high cost of living, than work for the government that was elected by the majority? They must have the reasoning power of a gnat. It is much better if sensible people work in these jobs, than it is left to power hungry jobsworths. If a decent government gets voted in, circumstances may improve for all.

Ilovecleaning · 06/04/2024 18:57

PS - I have just re-read your post. This is ONE friend?? Why are you even listening to them? They are clearly jealous. Ignore, start your new job and good luck.

Ilovecleaning · 06/04/2024 18:54

If any one of these so-called were offered a job with the DWP they would snap it up. I take it these friends are either unemployed or in low paid jobs?

NippySweetie16 · 06/04/2024 18:52

Take the job and be a good person - along with many others - who tries their best to make the system work for people who need it.
The policy makers are the ones that carry the responsibility for how DWP works - who knows, maybe your friend needs to vote differently in the next election. Good luck!

ThistleTits · 06/04/2024 18:50

If you are not in it, you can't change it. Don't let it change you.

XenoBitch · 06/04/2024 18:47

You need the job, it will give you a future you could not have slogging in retail, and a better work/life balance.

Fuck what your friend says. She is not paying your bills. Regardless of her thoughts on the DWP, it needs to exist and it needs employees to run.

Nicetobenice67 · 06/04/2024 18:47

It’s a great opportunity for you …think of yourself and your child ..congratulations girl go for it

Middleagedspreadisreal · 06/04/2024 18:46

Immoral how??
Take the job!

Popcornready · 06/04/2024 18:44

Take the job, your family comes first, friends will come and go over time and none of them will pay your wages. Congratulations and enjoy ☺️

Havinganamechange · 06/04/2024 18:42

I’m sorry OP but those aren’t friends. Also I would never allow the opinion of a friend weigh in at all in a career choice. The DWP job sounds like it is the best move for you so go for it.

Julimia · 06/04/2024 18:36

Everybody thinks something is immoral! If the pros outweigh the cons for YOU then go for it. End of. Nothing immoral there.

Girlssjustwanttohavefun · 06/04/2024 18:34

WalkingonWheels · 06/04/2024 18:31

Did you miss the number of times I've specifically mentioned the PIP department?

Did you miss where I said that's what I do and how upsetting it is to spend your life taking abuse of claimants you're putting yourself in harms way?

You're clearly happy vilifying other people without willing to educate yourself or listen so crack on. I believe you've experienced arseholes, but we aren't all like that and it's limited to think otherwise

Nicetobenice67 · 06/04/2024 18:34

Take the job my darling ..these are not real friends I promise you that ….there may even be a little bit of jealousy because you are bettering your self ..you will make new friends in life but friends like this you really don’t mind DWP do a great job good luck

raffika · 06/04/2024 18:32

Take the job, you don’t have to do it forever, but it may open the door to other areas of the public sector. This person is not your friend - if they were, they’d be delighted that you have this brilliant opportunity to improve your prospects and make a career. Tell them you’re taking the job, and they can take their threats and swivel.

WalkingonWheels · 06/04/2024 18:31

Girlssjustwanttohavefun · 06/04/2024 16:32

Do you think every single dwp does that or something?

Did you miss the number of times I've specifically mentioned the PIP department?

usernother · 06/04/2024 18:30

Why do they think the DWP are immoral? I honestly can't think of why they would?

ap1999 · 06/04/2024 18:29

I have worked I. The DWP for 32 years.. it was called the DHSS back then ..

I work at the sharp end .. fraud ::

I am a Socialist

I Absolutely believe in the welfare state:
We should be there to help the
Sick
Disabled
Carers
Unemployed

What we need to police are people scamming it

Anyone saying you are wrong for taking this job are benefit scammers scarred you will call their shitty behaviour out

AlexiaH · 06/04/2024 18:29

Sunsnet · 05/04/2024 17:50

I currently work a minimum wage job in retail. It's long hours, exhausting and for really shitty money. Sometimes I earn less than minimum wage as I'm salaried and not entitled to overtime.

I've just been offered a job with the DWP. I'll earn 50% more, have a WAY better pension plus more benefits. I'll even be able to work fewer hours so I can spend more time with my family and STILL be better off than now. BUT, I have friends who think the DWP is immoral and by working for them I will be implicit in that immorality.

I agree that the way the DWP works at the moment is immoral, but surely we need good people to work there to ensure that people who need the help and are entitled to it actually get it. Or am I just clutching at straws to justify my position?

I have one friend in particular who says they will never speak to me again if I take the job. This friend is independently wealthy and never needs to work again, I am not. I do not own property, have a family to support, I'm a single parent and I have no qualifications so have no hope of a better job.

Would I really be that awful a person to sell out and take this job?

I know exactly how you feel! I took a job in the Public sector last May after after years of working various admin roles in the private sector and the wages, pension and WFH flexibility has made an enormous difference to my quality of life. I say 100% you should take the job! Do what is best for you Xx it’s not immoral at all. And that “person” is not your friend! No friend discourages you let alone refuses to speak to you! She needs taking down a peg or two! She sounds jealous and tone deaf to the outside world. Wealthy people and their ivory towers, things can change in the blink of an eye, what if her circumstances were to change and then she needed help, support or to claim from the DWP. She has a horrible snotty entitled attitude and you are better off without her! You are not an awful person nor are you selling out! I hope you take the job X

letitlego · 06/04/2024 18:26

Take the job

ditch the deadbeat friends

Milliemoo6 · 06/04/2024 18:26

FFS the DWP are not collectively immoral. Yes there are flaws in the system but thats the fault of our corruption govt, most people in organisations like DWP are genuinely trying to make a difference to people's lives. You're better off without 'friends' who think their political views are more important than you earning a decent living from a decent job.

Deepf60 · 06/04/2024 18:25

Jasmin1971 · 05/04/2024 17:57

The real question is "could you actually live with yourself if you did? "
I am sorry, but you would need a heart of stone to do what those people do to a lot of vulnerable people. I certainly couldn't maintain a friendship with anyone who chose to work for them.

What a ridiculous thing to say. Op has said she's a single mum, the chance of a better standard of living for them....of course she should take the job 100%. The people that work there are not monsters. Also the people threatening to stop being her friend are not friends at all! No true friend blackmails another one like that.

GeorgeBeckett · 06/04/2024 18:23

Take the job. Your friends are being awful and I’d be inclined to challenge them on it, but if you don’t want to get into this then just say you’ve taken a job with the civil service.

Jenkibubble · 06/04/2024 18:17

Sunsnet · 05/04/2024 17:50

I currently work a minimum wage job in retail. It's long hours, exhausting and for really shitty money. Sometimes I earn less than minimum wage as I'm salaried and not entitled to overtime.

I've just been offered a job with the DWP. I'll earn 50% more, have a WAY better pension plus more benefits. I'll even be able to work fewer hours so I can spend more time with my family and STILL be better off than now. BUT, I have friends who think the DWP is immoral and by working for them I will be implicit in that immorality.

I agree that the way the DWP works at the moment is immoral, but surely we need good people to work there to ensure that people who need the help and are entitled to it actually get it. Or am I just clutching at straws to justify my position?

I have one friend in particular who says they will never speak to me again if I take the job. This friend is independently wealthy and never needs to work again, I am not. I do not own property, have a family to support, I'm a single parent and I have no qualifications so have no hope of a better job.

Would I really be that awful a person to sell out and take this job?

I don’t understand what is immoral about working for the DWP ?

WorkCleanRepeat · 06/04/2024 18:11

Take the job and get new friends!