To take a job with the DWP even though I will lose friends

Yes, I know, but she’s been for a work capability assessment and they still haven’t acknowledged her problems. I have known her since she was born and I know they are quite significant, yet her work capability assessment report was contradictory. The only people who have acknowledged her problems are independent people at a PIP tribunal. She now gets PIP on account of her learning difficulties, the same ones that don’t exist when it comes to jobs 🤣

These pretence fake friends are not your friends, they do not pay your rent or bills, they do not pay your child care food, nothing if they have an opinion on your job. Walk away, leave. No proper decent friend would stop you from progressing in your life no matter what job you do. I have three friends that work for child tax credits, I'm pleased for them, they are now in work from being on the dole. Don't stand there and doubt yourself and take it, you do not have to take that from anyone. Walk away

People who work in job centres aren't the ones who do work capability assessments

And people who work at job centres who aren’t sufficiently qualified to really know peoples capabilities as they don’t know them well enough would know this how?

A friend of mine’s daughter has complex learning difficulties and has been let go by various companies as her difficulties mean she has significant trouble with working memory and initiative etc, yet DWP will not accept her capabilities are severely limited and keep trying to force her into any old crappy job only for her to get let go within weeks as she can’t keep up with the demands, and round the cycle goes. They refuse to give her limited capability benefits.

I think when people aren’t affected they don’t think of the potential flaws and inhumanity of it all, they need to employ people with adequate knowledge of illness, disability and mental health issues before judging anyone’s circumstances, but they don’t.

Totally agree!

Totally agree

TAKE THE JOB! I am unsure why your 'friends' feel you shouldn't take it. Seems strange to me. What's the problem with working for the DWP? It is a government
organisation with roles and responsibilities affecting us all.
Best of luck in your future role that offers much better prospects all round!

@TweetypiePez , it is equally possible that a large number of the people being encouraged into jobs by the DWP are actually perfectly capable of full time work.

Take the job. Better salary and pension. Your friends can’t be true friends if they judge you for where you work

They are not your friends then. Why do they hate DWP so much? They must have something to hide?

Take the job. Its better for you and your children. Any "friends" you lose were never friends to start with. A true friend would be pleased for you.

Good luck x

Good grief. One of my best friends works for the DWP. She is a work coach for those on UC and is one of the most compassionate people I know. The DWP is vast. It’s not just about UC sanctions. And even if that is your job role, OP, still take it. Your friend is not your friend.

I’m a bit confused by people who think it’s ok to tell someone else what to do - even more perplexed they would tell you not to take a job that you obviously want.
My first response would have been well done and congratulations - I agree this person does not seem to actually be a friend but is happy to pass judgement.

Typo omission circle *

@Sunsnet
Put it this way if this real life senerio situation was a reverse they or a couple of them in your friendship who are in your situation would be tempted financially to take up your job offer,

As i have found in life some people are very hypocritical to say the least at times.

Unless
they have no right to say in your life how you provide the bacon for your family when you are up against financially

As they don't pay your bills ,

There opinions don't mean nothing...!

OP i hope some of the positive posts have actually helped you come to a decision about the job offer and who your friends are or rather who your friends are not …please update us

I could never tell someone not to take a job.

I can only say what I would do, in my unique circumstance. Personally, I would never apply for a job with the DWP & I am considered poor. I have had dealings with them personally that led to my mental health worsening & I have witnessed disabled people being unable to eat or heat their homes because of the DWP’s actions & processes.

Employees of the DWP don’t make the rules, that’s true, but they’re willing to carry them out for a salary. “Just following orders” doesn’t sit right with me, particularly when those orders have resulted in vulnerable people dying in their own homes with no food in the cupboards. A quick Google search will reveal these very real cases. I think the problem is many people haven’t actually seen the impact the DWP can have on vulnerable people, in the flesh. It’s easy to be detached about it, until you’ve seen or experienced it yourself.

The UN & more Judges & Coroners than I could list here have repeatedly condemned the DWP’s practices over the past decade & as recently as last week. The DWP has been criticised repeatedly by anti-poverty & disability charities for the way they treat vulnerable people.

I can’t write it all down here but there is a wealth of information online about the DWP’s. Perhaps do some research before you commit? Research around their targets will highlight they are not interested in truly helping people. One of the biggest sticking points for me is the DWP’s refusal to accept medical evidence from doctors, including specialists such as consultants, psychiatrists etc. The DWP genuinely think they know better. That’s dangerous & has left people suffering terribly.

Another important factor is workplace culture. I’ve learned the hard way that the working environment for employees is so important. There is a lot to suggest that working for the DWP is hard, stressful & mentally exhausting. That doesn’t surprise me one bit, particularly when you consider the way they treat claimants. You will be dealing with some of the most vulnerable in society who have been denied what they are entitled to. The DWP’s targets mean valid application have to be rejected. At least the first time round. Can you imagine being on the receiving end of that as a claimant with nowhere to turn? I’ve seen the consequences of this. It’s worth bearing in mind that the DWP waste ungodly sums of tax payers money fighting vulnerable claimants in court. For the record, over three quarters are overturned by Judges & panels who have nothing good to say about the DWP.

A lot of people have been badly let down by the DWP and their feelings are valid. I wouldn’t tell anyone they couldn’t take a certain job. But I have to admit, it would change my perception of them if they told me they were going to work for an organisation linked to so much distress, cruelty & ultimately death. I don’t know how it couldn’t given all I’ve seen & experienced.

I think you should do what is best for you in your circumstances. Security and finance is important.
I will add that I turned down a job working for DWP quite a few years ago but I had two job offers and chose the other. One of my reasons was that they were sanctioning people left right and centre who has missed appointments and a girl I knew of who couldn't leave her hospital bed at the time was sanctioned in this way.
I just thought no way can I do that to people. They are disgusting but they are just carrying out directives from the government at the end of the day but I didn't and don't want to be part of that.
I think if I hadn't had another job offer I may have had to take it though. So people shouldn't judge the staff, it's the government who will be given a big judgement very soon, hopefully. I will stay up all night and watch the sad faces of the self serving tw@ts as they lose their seats one by one.

You're not selling out. You're a taking a job to support your family. A normal friend would support you and congratulate you on a new job. I would question this friendship honestly

Take the job! I'm a retired civil servant and people have all sorts of weird views about them and the work they do which are completely wrong. Take the job and enjoy it. Oh and tell your friends what they can do with themselves.

Jasmin ! This actually shows a lot about your character , how can you judge a FRIEND for where they work? yes there are limitations and restrictions to what they can do, but that’s not their fault , FRIENDS are there to SUPPORT their FRIENDS not tear them down because of where they work , if you were in that position I can bet my last penny you would take the job , single mum , good heart , just trying to do better for her family .. and the fact that she’s even thinking twice about it shows how genuine she is .

take the job babe , you’ll make new friends , the ones that have said they won’t speak to you are not your friends & it’s very clear they don’t want you to do well . Nasty behaviour from adults

It's not an immoral job, you're just like any other civil servant. You're friend is probably jealous

Take the job. What an odd "friend". And you don't need to justify it to anyone, including yourself. Good luck!

Take the job.. that person is not a freind and needs to experience the real world before their views have any credibility

Take the job.

Your friend isn't a friend they're just opinionated and think they can tell you what to do through control. It's their loss if they unfriend you... wtf.