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To take a job with the DWP even though I will lose friends

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Sunsnet · 05/04/2024 17:50

I currently work a minimum wage job in retail. It's long hours, exhausting and for really shitty money. Sometimes I earn less than minimum wage as I'm salaried and not entitled to overtime.

I've just been offered a job with the DWP. I'll earn 50% more, have a WAY better pension plus more benefits. I'll even be able to work fewer hours so I can spend more time with my family and STILL be better off than now. BUT, I have friends who think the DWP is immoral and by working for them I will be implicit in that immorality.

I agree that the way the DWP works at the moment is immoral, but surely we need good people to work there to ensure that people who need the help and are entitled to it actually get it. Or am I just clutching at straws to justify my position?

I have one friend in particular who says they will never speak to me again if I take the job. This friend is independently wealthy and never needs to work again, I am not. I do not own property, have a family to support, I'm a single parent and I have no qualifications so have no hope of a better job.

Would I really be that awful a person to sell out and take this job?

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AuntieMaggie · 05/04/2024 18:17

Take it, you can get new friends. There are lots of lovely people working for the DWP and you can transfer between Civil Service departments in the future if you wish. Congratulations - enjoy it!

Heatwavenotify · 05/04/2024 18:17

Problem solved, @Jasmin1971 is going to pay all your bills!

Tell them to bore off. Celebrate your new job! DWP can always do with empathetic people.

BellaBobbins · 05/04/2024 18:14

Jasmin1971 · 05/04/2024 17:57

The real question is "could you actually live with yourself if you did? "
I am sorry, but you would need a heart of stone to do what those people do to a lot of vulnerable people. I certainly couldn't maintain a friendship with anyone who chose to work for them.

It isn't the fault of the people who work for the DWP.

"Those People" are doing what policy tells them to do; policy which is designed not by them, but by the Whitehall civil servants and politicians.

AngryLikeHades · 05/04/2024 18:14

I hate the DWP with a passion, but someone has to do the job.
I am partially projecting here, and I don't want to seem rude, but please don't be guided within it to harden your heart.
As another poster has added, they have been horrendous to her disabled son, and I have had that experience too. I understand it is your job to filter people out, but just remember there are many needy people.
You might be a really lovely person and that might well not apply to you, but don't let your new job make you believe that everyone is out there to rinse the system.
Sorry if that is harsh.
Go after the job xx

Neverpostagain · 05/04/2024 18:14

Jasmin1971 · 05/04/2024 17:57

The real question is "could you actually live with yourself if you did? "
I am sorry, but you would need a heart of stone to do what those people do to a lot of vulnerable people. I certainly couldn't maintain a friendship with anyone who chose to work for them.

Jasmin you sound incredibly privileged. Lucky you.

Anameisaname · 05/04/2024 18:12

Your friend is being ridiculous. Sure there are things that the DWP gets wrong. Bit it also administers benefits for a whole bunch of deserving people. If no one worked for them then how would those folks access the help they need? Use your vote to change policies!

Redglitter · 05/04/2024 18:11

Jasmin1971 · 05/04/2024 17:57

The real question is "could you actually live with yourself if you did? "
I am sorry, but you would need a heart of stone to do what those people do to a lot of vulnerable people. I certainly couldn't maintain a friendship with anyone who chose to work for them.

With a ridiculous outlook like that you'd be no loss.

nadine90 · 05/04/2024 18:11

Take the job. Your family comes first. You might end up disliking the job but it’s a stepping stone out of retail and would open doors for you to progress.
I don’t agree with a lot of how DWP operates myself, but the staff are not the ones making the rules. You also have a choice in that role how you treat people. I was so worried about going to the JC a few years ago when I was made redundant. My job coach was absolutely lovely and did everything he could to help me. I’ve heard some horror stories about other job coaches but you can choose to be empathetic and helpful.
Besides, someone has to do these jobs. If there was a shortage it would result in more problems for people x

Snippit · 05/04/2024 18:10

Take the job, you deserve it. Bugger what people say, they’re not real friends if they say things like this, it’s totally unfair for them to do this.

You have to look to the future, there’ll be chances for promotion, possibly flexi time, really good pension, sick pay etc.

I’m unable to work due to having M.S and I’ve dealt with the DWP and had lovely people to speak to. Obviously there will be some bad eggs, same as anywhere. You can be one of the GOOD eggs, like the ones that have helped me. In fact is was my coach at the job centre that encouraged me to claim certain benefits due to my illness. I’m so grateful for her help, it’s made what was a really stressful time that little bit more bearable.

Wishing you all the best and success 🤗

Aquagirl123 · 05/04/2024 18:10

Definitely take the job, no question. You will be much happier, better work life balance and make lots of new friends.

Scarletttulips · 05/04/2024 18:10

Don’t tell them you work there - Admin or Civil Service - they won’t ask again.

Clearly you need better friends.

Aquagirl123 · 05/04/2024 18:08

Take the job. You will be so much better off and they are nice normal people. I worked there for several years and made many good friends.

betterangels · 05/04/2024 18:07

Until your friends pay your bills, their opinions on this shouldn't really matter. Working that kind of job is not a crime.

Kalevala · 05/04/2024 18:07

Oh, and be willing to look things up or refer to someone higher up if not sure. I've had workers tell me things I know are incorrect when I was on tax credits and had to look it up and ask them to please check. A more vulnerable person than me (and I'm neurodiverse myself) might have accepted the first answer and been underpaid.

Purplebunnie · 05/04/2024 18:07

Take the job, you may be the person who makes a difference

MariaVT65 · 05/04/2024 18:04

Also, i love making new friends at new jobs 😁

BreadandButterDinners · 05/04/2024 18:04

I've just been offered a job with the DWP. I'll earn 50% more, have a WAY better pension plus more benefits. I'll even be able to work fewer hours so I can spend more time with my family and STILL be better off than now.
That's your answer Op, take the job you'd be mad not to. If anyone asks what you work at say Admin, in my experience that seems to stop people asking any more questions because they really aren't bothered knowing any more than that!

Nw22 · 05/04/2024 18:04

How is dwp immoral?

siameselife · 05/04/2024 18:03

Congratulations OP.
Any friends who don't understand that this job is better for you and your family isn't a true friend, let them go.

Anewuser · 05/04/2024 18:03

Of course you have to take the job. You clearly need the money and if the person was really your friend, they’d want what is best for you.

Unfortunately having a disabled son means I’ve had to deal with the DWP for 20 years so know how awful they can be. However, someone needs to work for them and the more kind/caring empathetic people who do, the kinder the authority may become.

LondonPleaseButJustForOneDay · 05/04/2024 18:03

Take the job, lose the "friends"

Good luck x

NCForQuestions · 05/04/2024 18:03

Jasmin1971 · 05/04/2024 17:57

The real question is "could you actually live with yourself if you did? "
I am sorry, but you would need a heart of stone to do what those people do to a lot of vulnerable people. I certainly couldn't maintain a friendship with anyone who chose to work for them.

Rubbish.

Might as well refuse to work for supermarkets because of racketeering, any civil service or public sector role because of the Tories or any energy / oil company because of climate change.

People need jobs. People need to do their jobs properly. Properly done jobs means people don't get screwed over.

Validforitems · 05/04/2024 18:03

Take the job, please. You and your kids come before any “friends” who say they’ll stop speaking to you.

And anyone who stops speaking to you because you’ve taken the job isn’t your friend, so no massive loss.

MariaVT65 · 05/04/2024 18:03

Fuck your friends.

OhmygodDont · 05/04/2024 18:03

I mean unless they are going to top up your wages who gives a shit.