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To take a job with the DWP even though I will lose friends

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Sunsnet · 05/04/2024 17:50

I currently work a minimum wage job in retail. It's long hours, exhausting and for really shitty money. Sometimes I earn less than minimum wage as I'm salaried and not entitled to overtime.

I've just been offered a job with the DWP. I'll earn 50% more, have a WAY better pension plus more benefits. I'll even be able to work fewer hours so I can spend more time with my family and STILL be better off than now. BUT, I have friends who think the DWP is immoral and by working for them I will be implicit in that immorality.

I agree that the way the DWP works at the moment is immoral, but surely we need good people to work there to ensure that people who need the help and are entitled to it actually get it. Or am I just clutching at straws to justify my position?

I have one friend in particular who says they will never speak to me again if I take the job. This friend is independently wealthy and never needs to work again, I am not. I do not own property, have a family to support, I'm a single parent and I have no qualifications so have no hope of a better job.

Would I really be that awful a person to sell out and take this job?

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ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 05/04/2024 19:24

Congratulations.

Absolutely take the job. 50% wage incredibly, standard hours, stability and pension.

Your friend won't pay your bills, feed and house you or provide a pension.

You can make new friends with colleagues who have had shitty friends ditch them too.

People who make statements like your friend's are really lacking in decency & intelligence and often the first to make questionable choices themselves. Fuck them, that's not real friendship.

Ted27 · 05/04/2024 19:23

It's interesting the assumptions that have been made about what the job actually is @Jasmin1971

Maybe she will be ensuring that your granny gets her state pension and cold weather payments?

DrJoanAllenby · 05/04/2024 19:23

What is your main responsibility in your life?

Taking care of your family.

Take the job and if anyone is nasty about it then it's their loss not yours.

mondaytosunday · 05/04/2024 19:21

I once took a freelance job with a blood sport magazine. The editor even asked me what my feelings were about hunting. I said 'I can be bought'. I needed the job.

category12 · 05/04/2024 19:21

Take the job.

Once you're in the Civil Service, you may be able to transfer into a different department if you find your work with the DWP troubling. Easier once you've got established there.

Friends might not agree with the choice, but you'd be silly to turn down the opportunity.

DahliaMacNamara · 05/04/2024 19:21

Either:
Don't tell them; or
Tell them not to be so bloody silly.
You literally can't afford to turn down a better-paying job. As for the moral police, who would be making sure people got benefits and pensions if the DWP no longer existed?
I've plenty of beef with government policy. Civil servants, not so much.

annoyingboyfriend · 05/04/2024 19:18

My friend started off at DWP and has had a great career in the civil service

TheBestEverMouse · 05/04/2024 19:13

*jay55

Take the job.
Your friends are not putting food on your table.*

I love this. You're absolutely right.

TheBestEverMouse · 05/04/2024 19:11

The DWP is hardly a tobacco or arms company! They're trying to implement poorly thought through policy in a bureaucratically difficult way. The people there aren't bad people doing bad things. You should take the job and better your situation and hopefully have better people trying to do better things at the DWP.

Startingagainandagain · 05/04/2024 19:11

Take the job. You need to put yourself first.

Also remember that the DWP will soon be under the leadership of a Labour government and could be a completely different/less hostile environment then...

littlegrebe · 05/04/2024 19:08

The DWP isn't going to get any better if good people are told they will automatically be arseholes if they go to work there. It is possible to be a DWP employee who treats people with kindness and fairness, but if we pretend that's not true you'll end up with an organisation entirely staffed by the sort of people who impose sanctions for a laugh.

BobnLen · 05/04/2024 19:05

Of course take the job, but whether you do or not, ditch the 'friend' anyway

Cramlington567 · 05/04/2024 19:02

If this is real,

take.the.job.

Or repent in financial hardship at your leisure

Notinthemood12 · 05/04/2024 18:57

I get their point in the way dwp treat people is disgraceful. And there are some awful staff. But as long as you go in with the value of treating everyone kindly and as fairly as you can, using discretion where you can, then go for it

Rosesanddaisies1 · 05/04/2024 18:56

Definitely take the job. Your friends are being stupid

Rosesanddaisies1 · 05/04/2024 18:55

Jasmin1971 · 05/04/2024 17:57

The real question is "could you actually live with yourself if you did? "
I am sorry, but you would need a heart of stone to do what those people do to a lot of vulnerable people. I certainly couldn't maintain a friendship with anyone who chose to work for them.

OP won’t be setting the policies of DWP. Direct your anger at politicians

jay55 · 05/04/2024 18:54

Take the job.
Your friends are not putting food on your table.

I did a summer job with the employment service a million years ago now, there were many dickhead jobsworths but a lot of lovely people too.

clairelouwho · 05/04/2024 18:54

It's very easy to get on your moral high horse when you're independently wealthy.

Take the job. Ditch the friends. No one in their right mind would make a friend, knowing how much better off you will be, make that kind of choice. Especially not if they value the friendship.

Ultimately, this job is going to give you more money, more flexibility and time to spend with your family, better progression opportunities, better pension and I am going to guess better holiday entitlement.

It'd be foolish to turn it down because someone who doesn't have your best interests at heart gave you a ridiculous ultimatum.

oui · 05/04/2024 18:51

Your friends sound pathetic. Go for the bloody job! It's a no brainer. Anyone who thinks the DWP is 'immoral' is a bit thick and not worth being friends with anyway.

Danascully2 · 05/04/2024 18:49

This sounds like people I know who live in cities with all resources nearby, good public transport, cycle paths etc and tell me nobody needs to drive. Completely different when you live somewhere with very limited public transport, 6 miles to the nearest supermarket, 12 miles to nearest cinema.

(And then I have local people thinking I'm mad for walking from one end of our small town to the other but that's another story...).

colourfulcrochet · 05/04/2024 18:43

Take the job and don't worry about it. They aren't the ones responsible for feeding your family.

Bax765 · 05/04/2024 18:40

I would accept the new job without a second thought!

If your friend no longer talks to you because of something so petty, they weren't a friend worth having to begin with. It's not like you're making a move into the slave trade or something..!

LifeIsJustOneBigWTAF · 05/04/2024 18:37

Easy for your 'friends' to talk, judgemental arseholes. Unless they have a better idea, take the job and tell them to fuck off.

Runnerinthenight · 05/04/2024 18:37

There are parts of my job that wouldn't win me any popularity contest let's just say but I think I can make a difference by being compassionate, kind and fair. I am sure you will be able to do the same.

Caravaggiouch · 05/04/2024 18:36

Your friends are idiots. Take the job.