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To take a job with the DWP even though I will lose friends

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Sunsnet · 05/04/2024 17:50

I currently work a minimum wage job in retail. It's long hours, exhausting and for really shitty money. Sometimes I earn less than minimum wage as I'm salaried and not entitled to overtime.

I've just been offered a job with the DWP. I'll earn 50% more, have a WAY better pension plus more benefits. I'll even be able to work fewer hours so I can spend more time with my family and STILL be better off than now. BUT, I have friends who think the DWP is immoral and by working for them I will be implicit in that immorality.

I agree that the way the DWP works at the moment is immoral, but surely we need good people to work there to ensure that people who need the help and are entitled to it actually get it. Or am I just clutching at straws to justify my position?

I have one friend in particular who says they will never speak to me again if I take the job. This friend is independently wealthy and never needs to work again, I am not. I do not own property, have a family to support, I'm a single parent and I have no qualifications so have no hope of a better job.

Would I really be that awful a person to sell out and take this job?

OP posts:
mrlistersgelfbride · 06/04/2024 00:04

Congratulations!
Take the job.
Dump your dickhead friend.
Hope it goes well for you! 😊

TheSquareMile · 06/04/2024 00:03

You must accept the job with the DWP. Don't hesitate.

herbygarden · 05/04/2024 23:58

Take the job, 100%

floppybit · 05/04/2024 23:57

Redglitter · 05/04/2024 17:52

Losing friends like those should be an added incentive to take the job

I agree with this

Blueink · 05/04/2024 23:57

Some people who work at DWP are relatable and supportive. They need more people like this not less as it can be a difficult experience having to engage due to unforeseen circumstances that happen in life eg related to work or health. Some of these peoples are heroes IMO.

Your ‘friend’ is a privileged twat.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/04/2024 23:55

Winter2020 · 05/04/2024 23:38

Someone needs to administrate benefits otherwise no one would be able to claim them - unless your friends propose the benefit budget is just airdropped from the sky like confetti.

This! There may be problems with DWP, but it’s much better than having no one administering benefits. What a ridiculous view your friend takes.

Definitely take the job OP

Thebabychick · 05/04/2024 23:53

hotwheelshell · 05/04/2024 17:57

Take the job! Christ I can't believe people have such strong opinions on where their friends work! Wow

This!

What strange friends you have! Never heard of anything like this before. Of course you take the job! I wonder if your "friend" is claiming benefits fraudulently and is worried she'd get found out 🤔... I can't think of any other reason for this weird behaviour!

gunsnrosacea · 05/04/2024 23:52

Jasmin1971 · 05/04/2024 17:57

The real question is "could you actually live with yourself if you did? "
I am sorry, but you would need a heart of stone to do what those people do to a lot of vulnerable people. I certainly couldn't maintain a friendship with anyone who chose to work for them.

It’s a good job ‘those people’ work for the DWP otherwise there’d be no-one to process the claims and pay the benefits. Could you live with that?

Andthereyougo · 05/04/2024 23:49

It was a lovely lady at DWP who examined my State Pension forecast and saw I’d been under-assessed. Saved me nearly £4k I thought I’d have to pay to increase it.

Another employee helped me sort out paperwork and procedures ( complicated ) when I was widowed.

Take the job. Your “ friends” don’t sound like real friends. They’d want the best for you if they were.

Dotcomma · 05/04/2024 23:48

Your friend, if a true friend, wouldn't put their own personal views onto you and expect you to make a decision on 'your life' based on what they've said. Any advice a friend gives should end in 'it's what works best for you and what you think that matters'.

It might not be as good as it looks or sounds on paper but you'll only find that out once you're in the job. If you're unhappy with your job now, a change will show you what else is out there.

crumbledog · 05/04/2024 23:47

Depends on what the job is surely, its a big area. There's some areas I wouldn't want to work in, but I guess once you're in you can move around.

Chillyboots · 05/04/2024 23:46

Take the job. Judging a friend by their job is immoral!

Jeschara · 05/04/2024 23:43

What grade is the job you are taking and are you working in a jobcentre, or at a head office.

KomodoOhno · 05/04/2024 23:40

If you lose friends they were not real friends. The job will help you and your family. Take it.

Howdidtheydothat · 05/04/2024 23:40

😂
Take take take the Job! Government jobs are slightly bonkers with the pathways required to process or change anything but comparatively a good place to work with generous flexibility (comparatively) very good pension(comparatively) and very possible to progress to higher positions.
I really wouldn’t count your friends as friends. They are not. If they were , they would see that you will have better home-work balance and improved income. They sound ignorant. Do what is best for you and your family.

JudgeJ · 05/04/2024 23:38

Hollyhock4 · 05/04/2024 17:58

How is the DWP immoral? The staff working there don't make the rules - they just carry them out.They are made by politicians. It's very easy for someone of independent means to tell you what to do. I would say consider your own position and what you need carefully. It seems a strange thing for "friends" to say. You can, if necessary find new friends.

It's the same as when people moan about what goes on in schools when in reality it's government policy that's being introduced. I got so fed up with one parent in particular who seemed to hold me personally responsible for changes to the curriculum that I eventually snapped at her Do you seriously think we enjoy having to do all the extra work that this crap needs knowing that in a couple of years we'll have to do it all over again? She looked quite shocked!

Winter2020 · 05/04/2024 23:38

Someone needs to administrate benefits otherwise no one would be able to claim them - unless your friends propose the benefit budget is just airdropped from the sky like confetti.

Tryingtogetonwithit · 05/04/2024 23:36

Unless said friend is going to make up the difference in wages and pensions TAKE THE JOB!
The people who work in jobs like this are just people who work in the job, the fault for its problems are much, much higher up the food chain.

ACynicalDad · 05/04/2024 23:35

There’s an election coming, take the job and use the cover and maybe try to move departments in a year or two.

Yalta · 05/04/2024 23:34

Unless this friend is offering the uplift in your salary from her own pocket each month until you retire then she can keep her nose out of it

Propertyhuntingsucks · 05/04/2024 23:33

CanaryCanary · 05/04/2024 17:52

Definitely take the job. Tell your friend that if he prefers he can just pay you the salary you could earn at DWP and you’ll be available for him to pontificate and lecture at.

I’ve not rtft but not seen anything suggesting the friend is male. Happy to be proved wrong

JudgeJ · 05/04/2024 23:32

I have one friend in particular who says they will never speak to me again if I take the job.

Will the wealthy friend be offering to make up your potential extra income lost if you don't take the job?

chasegirl · 05/04/2024 23:28

Jasmin1971 · 05/04/2024 17:57

The real question is "could you actually live with yourself if you did? "
I am sorry, but you would need a heart of stone to do what those people do to a lot of vulnerable people. I certainly couldn't maintain a friendship with anyone who chose to work for them.

I work for DWP and my colleagues and I try to help people as much as we can within the system set up by the Government. If we can't help or offer solutions we signpost to organisations that can. We try to help people navigate the complexities of the benefits system. We do not set out to make people suffer or descend further into poverty

Our customers have very challenging circumstances and issues that we do not have the authority or budgets to solve

Abitofalark · 05/04/2024 23:27

Congratulations on getting the job offer. It is a great step up for you and your children and I hope you will ignore silly people who call themselves your friends but haven't one ounce of compassion or concern for you. Be happy to wave them goodbye for trying to burden you with their fake morality.

There is nothing immoral about administering government policy and I hope you will seize the opportunity with both hands and enjoy an easier and better life with your children. Onwards and upwards.

StripeyDeckchair · 05/04/2024 23:27

Take the job
If anyone asks say you work in admin for local government.

Your family, wellbeing & long term future are worth doing it for.