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What to say to sexist salesman asking for my 'husband' to be present for quote? Should i say something?

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Sailawaygirl · 04/04/2024 11:52

So man selling windows (well known company) came to door saying he had done some work on a house up street and they have a good deal atm ect ect. It just so happens I do need new windows and getting quotes is on my todo list so for once door knock could be helpful. ( i will obviously contact more than just his company but its a start)

my AIBU is --- in door step conversation he asks if we own house ( obviously important). he then asks if I have a husband, I say yes ( we arent married but I know what he means and he is probably asking for finance reasons ect)
He then says he wants to come back ' when my husband is around' so he can talk to us both!!!!! i say DP is working today but window man can come back to give me a full quote latter in day. He then insists on coming when 'husband' is back from work or at a weekend so husband can have quote!!! I tell sales person that i deal with quotes and DIY stuff and to just deal with me. Its a loose quote im not going to sign on dotted line today! He says it so i can choose what colour handles on doors ect!!!! I tell him im more interested in energy efficiency and cost and that i dont want him to come when DP is back from work as this impacts family time.
Then when he takes my details and asks for my title - i say ms , he says mrs and then miss and i correct no ms.

How can a salesman be so out of tune with the times? he wasn't an older sales person either!!!!

He said someone would phone me for feedback after, AIBU to bring up that i felt he had a sexist attitude? how do i phrase it constructively

OP posts:
Topee · 04/04/2024 14:22

It’s a sales tactic so they can lure you with a ‘huge’ discount if you commit straight away. It happened to my husband too.

GasPanic · 04/04/2024 14:21

He just wants to get both (potential) decision makers together, make sure he is addressing both peoples requirements and present the quote and maybe even offer an on the spot signing discount.

It's more usual if you are in a couple that you make large spending decisions together.

He could have gone about it somewhat differently though and not given you such a negative impression.

I would be more worried about whether the windows were any good, the price and whether I thought they were going to do a good job. So many cowboys around these days.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 04/04/2024 14:21

willWillSmithsmith · 04/04/2024 14:18

It depends on whether he would have said to your husband that he’d only talk with you present as well. If it’s Anglia windows run for the hills, they will never stop pestering you for the rest of eternity.

Agreed! We used them for our windows and they kept phoning for years. I ignored them after a while, but they then used my local code to make it look like they were someone else. When I told them data protection laws and the Telephone Preference Service applied to them as well I was told I was being rude and "most" people liked them being helpful. Arsehole.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 04/04/2024 14:19

Well, it might be because he wants to talk to both home owners as he has to ensure that both are in agreement about the work. Maybe there have been instances of one half of a couple claiming they won't pay for the work as they did not personally agree to it initially

This is always the excuse.

The reality is that they are highly unlikely to ask a man when his wife will be home.

It's sexist. Lets not make excuses for these people.

willWillSmithsmith · 04/04/2024 14:18

It depends on whether he would have said to your husband that he’d only talk with you present as well. If it’s Anglia windows run for the hills, they will never stop pestering you for the rest of eternity.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 04/04/2024 14:17

They all do and there is a good reason
Too many easy-minded people sign up and then want to back out because their OH
was not consulted.

This is an elementary sales banter.

I can't see the offence from any angel whatsoever.

Case closed.

oakleaffy · 04/04/2024 14:17

Shinyeyes · 04/04/2024 11:53

"I don't do business with misogynists. Goodbye"

This!

Somepeoplearesnippy · 04/04/2024 14:14

Lots of sales people won't bother to if the 'decision making unit' (normally meaning both partners in a couple) isn't present. It's not sexist. It's part of high pressure selling.

Recently I was negotiating with a tradesman about some fairly expensive work on the house. We'd agreed terms and a start date when he hesitated and said 'don't you want to run this past your husband?' I laughed out loud and said 'He is far too busy and important for me to bother his pretty little head with household matters!'

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 04/04/2024 14:13

The 'both be there' is a thing, it seems!https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/s59haz/window_company_asking_for_both_man_and_woman_to/?rdt=60273

fiorentina · 04/04/2024 14:12

I had this previously, I understand if it was more ‘are there any others who’d be involved in the decision making process’ but saying they won’t speak to the ‘wife’ alone is embarrassing for them.
I told him I had a partner but owned the house myself and he still wasn’t happy. Needless to say I didn’t go with them..

someonethatyoulovetoomuch · 04/04/2024 14:11

I called a company for a quote for new windows, they said they would arrange to send someone out when me & my husband were both home. I said it was fine to just see him because he works from home and I don’t, but they were quite insistent on coming when both of us were there. It’s obviously a sales tactic, a really fucking annoying one because I don’t want to take half a day off to get a quote for windows that my husband is perfectly capable of getting without me.

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 04/04/2024 14:08

Could have written some of these replies. We are trying to buy new glazing at the moment, grief, not impressed and four suppliers and counting!

RaraRachael · 04/04/2024 14:08

I had similar with Wren kitchens. I own the house and have done since before OH moved in. I pay for everything to do with it and was buying a new kitchen with money from when my mother died. OH couldn't care less what the kitchen looked like tnh

So we get to the Wren showroom and they guy looked at the paperwork "Oh, Rachael X" Then turns to OH and says "We'll have to get your name on this too" When I asked why I was incapable of ordering a kitchen without a man, he sort of mumbled awkwardly and sent another salesperson to deal with us.

After that, I had no intention of buying anything from them.

SwordToFlamethrower · 04/04/2024 14:05

He is preempting husband being a gatekeeper, so he wants to sell to you both so that can't be a rejection. The colours bit is sexist but most women would actually only care about the colours and trims so he is actually doing what works, the majority of the time.

I used to work in sales and unfortunately, men and women often have these differing priorities!

I say that as a woman who usually handles the stuff a man would be expected to.

wombat15 · 04/04/2024 14:03

I think they prefer both home owners to be there as they want to pressure you to sign on the dotted line rather than just give you a quote that you can think about and compare with others. I hate this kind of sales tactic though and would just tell them to give you a quote or you will go elsewhere.

CleverLemonCat · 04/04/2024 14:02

I am constantly hassled by door to door salesmen and wouldn't touch any of the companies with a bargepole. Need to get my windows replaced, so are there any mumsnetters on here with a recommendation for local firms in north east /North lincs area?

Doris86 · 04/04/2024 14:01

It’s nothing to do with sexism. It’s just part of their hard sell tactics. Making sure both decision makers are there, so you can’t use the ‘I need to check with my other half first’ before signing on the dotted line excuse.

If your husband had made the appointment, then they would have asked him to make sure you were there.

Best not to do business with these kind of companies anyway. Find a decent local company who’ll give you an honest quote and leave you go think about it, rather than one the big companies who over inflate prices, give you a big ‘discount’ if you sign up today, and still end up charging you double what you should be paying.

Mairzydotes · 04/04/2024 14:00

Often cold calling window companies will be selling a finance plan/ credit agreement. It's not the product they are flogging, it's the repayment plan. They are less keen for people to buy windows outright(people who are doing that usually get their windows elsewhere)

Both adults in the household are responsible for repayment. That is why they need both members present to sign the contract.

inabubble3 · 04/04/2024 13:52

Yup it’s because they want you to sign there and then….

this also speaks volumes about the company in itself doesn’t it?

CactusMactus · 04/04/2024 13:48

Where are you? I can recommend a great window company who did all my windows and were polite and respectful, in London.

Lifebeganat50 · 04/04/2024 13:45

For me the words “fuck off” would be the only ones I’d use
I oversaw an entire house reno, doors/windows/boiler, the lot, and not one person even asked if I had a husband. I can’t be doing with that

I’ve previously walked out of a car showroom when a salesman kept speaking anti my husband despite dh saying “speak to my wife, the car’s for her”

LouisePlease · 04/04/2024 13:45

I've had this both with windows and when buying my car.

I was buying my current car. First time I've bought a new car outright. I knew what I wanted. The guy asked me if I needed to run it past my husband. I said no, and let it slide. Went through the details, he double checked with the actual words "sure you don't want to run it by "hubby"". He didn't get the sale. He also didn't get why. I don't even have a fucking hubby. Bizarre. But definitely sexist.

Crazymadchickenlady · 04/04/2024 13:42

We had this with Dunraven. Thought I was going to have to call the police to get him out of the house in the end. Never again!! We go with a local reputable company who is in and out in 10 mins and doesn't care who is there. He leaves a quote and then says to ring if we want to order them.

DPotter · 04/04/2024 13:35

name that law!

Funnily enough we've had windows and doors done in the past (and a kitchen too). Local companies and only one of use present, ie me!

onemoremile · 04/04/2024 13:34

PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:27

It’s not sexist. It’s the law for both home owners to be present for windows, solar panels, etc.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course it isn't 'the law'.

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