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What to say to sexist salesman asking for my 'husband' to be present for quote? Should i say something?

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Sailawaygirl · 04/04/2024 11:52

So man selling windows (well known company) came to door saying he had done some work on a house up street and they have a good deal atm ect ect. It just so happens I do need new windows and getting quotes is on my todo list so for once door knock could be helpful. ( i will obviously contact more than just his company but its a start)

my AIBU is --- in door step conversation he asks if we own house ( obviously important). he then asks if I have a husband, I say yes ( we arent married but I know what he means and he is probably asking for finance reasons ect)
He then says he wants to come back ' when my husband is around' so he can talk to us both!!!!! i say DP is working today but window man can come back to give me a full quote latter in day. He then insists on coming when 'husband' is back from work or at a weekend so husband can have quote!!! I tell sales person that i deal with quotes and DIY stuff and to just deal with me. Its a loose quote im not going to sign on dotted line today! He says it so i can choose what colour handles on doors ect!!!! I tell him im more interested in energy efficiency and cost and that i dont want him to come when DP is back from work as this impacts family time.
Then when he takes my details and asks for my title - i say ms , he says mrs and then miss and i correct no ms.

How can a salesman be so out of tune with the times? he wasn't an older sales person either!!!!

He said someone would phone me for feedback after, AIBU to bring up that i felt he had a sexist attitude? how do i phrase it constructively

OP posts:
canyouletthedogoutplease · 04/04/2024 12:45

They're often working commission only. They are trained to not leave the appointment unless they've closed the sale and have the paperwork signed, which is why people find themselves trapped in their own front room with them refusing to leave and repeating their increasingly desperate spiel for hours.

They want to eliminate any obvious reasons for not signing before they make the appointment, they are judged on their conversion rate.

Don't touch them with a bargepole.

Secondaryappealhelp · 04/04/2024 12:44

Sailawaygirl · 04/04/2024 12:42

it was the one beginning with A if anyone is wondering. I have only heard bad things about E too

Yup ours was A

dimllaishebiaith · 04/04/2024 12:43

I absolutely refuse to use any company that tries to insist on this

I get my windows sorted by a local independent company who are quite willing to come out and give me a quote by myself, and think its normal that I might want time to consider an expensive purchase rather than make a decision on the spot under pressure.

When making expensive purchases its quite normal, and sensible to get multiple quotes before deciding, so the whole suggestion from one poster upthread that the man needs to be there because the silly woman will just dither is just offensive.

Sailawaygirl · 04/04/2024 12:42

it was the one beginning with A if anyone is wondering. I have only heard bad things about E too

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JaffavsCookie · 04/04/2024 12:38

PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:27

It’s not sexist. It’s the law for both home owners to be present for windows, solar panels, etc.

Utter bollocks @PotatoPudding , my husband has organised and had fitted new windows without me present, and i have organised new ones without him.

anyway OP don’t go with a doorstepper, or any of the nationals, one beginning with E has long held form for going bankrupt then reopening with a marginally changed name, meaning all guarantees are invalid. As a pp said, give your general area and ask MNs for recommendations.

Sailawaygirl · 04/04/2024 12:36

If its a sales tactic surely 'Mr manly husband ' is much more likely to say no and be firm about it? than poor 'mrs sailaway who might get flustered and think she has to sign her life away without thinking about it or getting other quotes?'

OP posts:
PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:35

HellonHeels · 04/04/2024 12:33

Are you feeling quite well?

I have already stated that I stand corrected. A solar company told my husband this.

You’re one of those delightful MN examples of someone who loves to snipe.

Magnastorm · 04/04/2024 12:34

It doesn't necessarily make it ok, but it's a common sales tactics of these companies to want to pressurise homeowners into these things in one meeting. If both partners aren't present, then it becomes harder to push for agreement there and then.

Likely if your DH had opened the door they would be insisting any female partner would be present.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 04/04/2024 12:34

Can one joint owner of a property agree major works without the consent of the other?

HellonHeels · 04/04/2024 12:33

PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:27

It’s not sexist. It’s the law for both home owners to be present for windows, solar panels, etc.

Are you feeling quite well?

NeedToChangeName · 04/04/2024 12:33

PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:27

It’s not sexist. It’s the law for both home owners to be present for windows, solar panels, etc.

No need for both home owners to be present, but sensible eg window company enters into contract with PotatoPudding, they can only pursue you for the money. If they enter into contract with both owners, then they can pursue either or both of them

BatshitCrazyWoman · 04/04/2024 12:32

PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:27

It’s not sexist. It’s the law for both home owners to be present for windows, solar panels, etc.

That's rubbish! I did it all the time when I was married.

PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:32

Meadowfinch · 04/04/2024 12:30

@PotatoPudding It is not the law at all. Don't talk nonsense. Who spun you that line?

I stand corrected. It was what a solar panel company told my husband when he wanted someone to quote. A quick Google has just told me it’s a sales tactic to have both people present so you can’t say you’ll talk it over with your partner when they get home.

TheaBrandt · 04/04/2024 12:32

Not defending it but if you work with the public year after year you can’t help but spot patterns and then you avoid what is likely to waste your time.

Sailawaygirl · 04/04/2024 12:30

PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:27

It’s not sexist. It’s the law for both home owners to be present for windows, solar panels, etc.

really? i have a quote from my boiler man - to me no 'husband present' and i am also going to get quotes for other heating systems inc solar and heat pump, which is why i need new windows if i go down that route. Will 'husband' have to be present for all of those appts?

I think i am going to make him to a reveres and contact another big brand and see if they want 'wife' present?

OP posts:
Anameisaname · 04/04/2024 12:30

YANBU and you should bring it up. Just say that younfelt the salesperson was making inappropriate assumptions about your domestic arrangements and that he should not have pushed back when you clarified that you were the person to deal with and that this came across as sexist

BatshitCrazyWoman · 04/04/2024 12:30

I can't believe companies are still doing this! Decades ago, when I was married, I was getting quotes for work. Anglian wanted only to come out when my then-husband was home. I said that's not necessary, you will be looking at the job and then giving me a quote. I am perfectly able to facilitate that, without my husband being there. We have other companies quoting. Once we have the quotes we will discuss and decide. But no, they just wouldn't accept this, no matter how many times I told them that nothing would be decided or signed. For some reason, we did make an appointment. They cancelled an hour before. Then did that again. Then when I said I not longer wanted them to quote, they said it was my fault they had cancelled. Hassled me by phone for several weeks afterwards, until I said I would call the police if they didn't stop calling.

Went with a small local company in the end, who quoted after just meeting me, and who was not required to come and "explain it all over again" to my husband!

Tossers. Don't fall for it OP. Find a better company, by recommendation if possible.

Meadowfinch · 04/04/2024 12:30

@PotatoPudding It is not the law at all. Don't talk nonsense. Who spun you that line?

mumda · 04/04/2024 12:29

It's poor sales tactics.

People should be able to quote and accept that people want time to go away and get alternative quotes and make considered decisions.

Poor companies don't do that.

TimeandMotion · 04/04/2024 12:28

PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:27

It’s not sexist. It’s the law for both home owners to be present for windows, solar panels, etc.

Ha ha no it’s not “the law”!

(I’m a lawyer)

Horsewhisperers · 04/04/2024 12:27

I had similar with a kitchen salesman who was both ageist and sexist. I was a single woman. It was one of the major companies.

PotatoPudding · 04/04/2024 12:27

It’s not sexist. It’s the law for both home owners to be present for windows, solar panels, etc.

Meadowfinch · 04/04/2024 12:24

Don't do business with any of the larger providers who adopt those sorts of tactics. It's the beginning of a pressure selling spiel.

Find yourself a good reputable independent supplier who will do a better job for half the price and none of the nastiness.

If you say which town you are near, I'm sure someone on Mumsnet will give you a recommendation of a decent local company.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 04/04/2024 12:24

My life rule number two:

Never ever buy anything from someone knocking at your door.

curlycurlymoo · 04/04/2024 12:22

I think you might live on my street!!!! The exact same thing happened to me yesterday!

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