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To think they should still replace it...

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YorkshireRose80 · 04/04/2024 10:47

TLDR:
Friend borrowed expensive item six years ago, lost it and not replaced it despite frequent requests asking for it to be replaced.

Long version:
Six years ago, I bought a £300 fancy BBQ in a sale for £150, I didn't have a suitable garden for it at the time, but it was a bargain so I bought it and stored it away.

Six months later, my friend was asking around to see if anyone had a BBQ she could borrow for her mum's birthday party which friend was hosting. Mine wasn't being used, so I happily lent it to her. She used it and thanked me and said she'd drop it back at some point. As I still didn't have a suitable garden, I said there was no immediate rush.

The following summer, I had a suitable garden and wanted to have a BBQ, but recalled my mate hadn't returned it. I asked her to return it and she apologised for not doing so sooner, but later messaged to say that she's really sorry, she's looked and not been able to find it. Said she must have lost it!

Not quite sure how you can lose a fucking BBQ. I lent it to her unopened, in its box, it weighed a lot and was big and bulky.

I was quite upset, as I'd never even got to use it, but I didn't go off at her as she was pregnant with her first child and she'd had a couple of scares. So, I asked if she could have another look for it and get back to me.

Anyway, long story short, she couldn't find it. I awaited her message to say she'd replace it, but it never came. Her DD was then born and I let it go for a while as she was on mat leave and money was tight. But when she was back working, I asked her outright to replace it and she said she would, but it never materialised.

So, every spring for the past five years I have asked her again if she could please replace my BBQ. She says she will, but doesn't.

I know it's only a BBQ, but it's not something I'd usually be able to afford for the original price and I've held off buying a cheap one, hoping friend will come through with replacement.

Clocks have now gone forward and it's almost time for my annual request for my BBQ! 😅 My mum said I should let it go, but my DH agrees with me and said I should persist for a replacement.

If I lost something I borrowed, expensive or not, I'd replace it straight away.

My friend is doing well for herself and recently got a brand new car, her DD and DS have lovely clothes and lots of tech, so money doesn't seem to be the reason. And if it was, I'd be open to her paying for it in installments.

Soooo....

YABU - Suck it up buttercup, it's gone, get over it.
YANBU - She needs to replace it, regardless of how much time as passed. It's the principle of the matter.

OP posts:
idontlikealdi · 06/04/2024 12:55

How the fuck do you lose a bbq?!

dayswithaY · 06/04/2024 12:39

I agree with other posters in that she is not your friend. Therefore, you can afford to go nuclear on her and demand she reimburses you right now, as effectively this friendship is over.

If she stole £150 cash from your house how would you feel? This is the same thing.

Next time, demand the barbecue back the very next day. Personally, I wouldn’t have lent a brand new still in the box barbecue to anyone, but that’s just me.

MorningSunshineSparkles · 06/04/2024 11:05

It’s been 5 years, it’s gone and she’s no intention of replacing it. I’d let it go, get yourself a new one and ditch her as a friend. Theft is theft regardless of if you like the person that stole from you.

Blondebrunette1 · 06/04/2024 11:00

You're not unreasonable for asking. I'd message her and say I hate messaging and chasing over this but I let you borrow my brand new (in its box) BBQ in good faith and I don't want to have to fork out £300 replacing it ideally. Do you have any intention of actually replacing it, as we are having a BBQ in two weeks time and I need to make arrangements if not. If she claims poverty, point out you picking up a £300 bill so she can afford her flash new car is not on but you know now where you stand.

Your mistake was telling her there was no rush and being happy for her to store it for you, she shouldn't have lost it but lesson learnt for future. I'd never lend her anything again whatever the outcome.

BusyMum47 · 06/04/2024 10:52

Wow. What a cheeky fucker she is - I'd be raging mad in your position!

I don't think she's the sort of 'friend' you need to be bothered about potentially losing so I'd go round in person & be brutally honest - something along the lines of...

"Right. This BBQ debacle has gone on long enough. You can't possibly 'lose' a huge BBQ so something has obviously happened to it - I don't even care anymore what that is but I'm sick & tired of you messing me around. I want a 'like for like' BBQ or a refund of the £150 I paid for it. I'll be reasonable & give you a week to sort it."

SabreIsMyFave · 06/04/2024 10:43

5foot5 · 04/04/2024 11:04

Can you find the same model and send her a link. Say "Just a reminder that you still owe me one if these. Now the weather is improving I would like it before the next Bank Holiday weekend at the vet least"

If she doesn't respond to that then she is no friend and I am afraid you are unlikely to see it again.

But I think it is worth trying to shame her with to one last try. Frankly by now I would only accept a new replacement because if the original did magically turn up the chances are it has Benn sitting somewhere neglected or been used multiple times or has been ruined

This. ^ One last ditch attempt and that would be it for me. I would try to get her to replace it - just one more time - and then would give up. And I'm afraid I would ghost her after that (if she didn't replace it, which she won't!)

Sorry @YorkshireRose80 but this woman is not a good friend to you. She is taking the piss. She has very likely sold the BBQ. How can you LOSE a fucking BBQ? How silly. Does she think you're an idiot? Confused

I have lent people stuff before, and not got it back. Despite asking multiple times. I never ever lent that person anything else again.

Lesson learned OP!

AmytheDancingBrick · 06/04/2024 10:12

I’d just tell her you are planning a family BBQ on X date and to either transfer £350 (accounts for price increases) by Y date, or arrange delivery of a specified BBQ by Z date.

brocollilover · 06/04/2024 10:00

ChampagneLassie · 06/04/2024 09:53

Probably because in most friendships neither party would behave like this! Ie borrower would buy new BBQ or send money immediately if she actually valued the friendship, and if you like you’re friend why can’t you have a chat instead of asking a load of strangers 🤷‍♀️

exactly

obviously the op has a very very different view on what a “friendship” is compared with us!

brocollilover · 06/04/2024 09:58

Jane1978xx · 06/04/2024 09:57

or she's borrowed it out to another friend or neighbour

or it’s been unused since the day she borrowed and it rusted and unusable in the garage!

Jane1978xx · 06/04/2024 09:57

whywonttheyeattheirfood · 04/04/2024 11:10

She'll have sold it and used the money on herself.

or she's borrowed it out to another friend or neighbour

ChampagneLassie · 06/04/2024 09:55

And as to what to do, either write it off or ask her to transfer the money but be prepared that she won’t and whether that will affect your relationship and how you feel about that. She doesn’t sound like a decent friend to me

ChampagneLassie · 06/04/2024 09:53

YorkshireRose80 · 04/04/2024 10:53

How have you arrived at that conclusion? I wouldn't lend something to someone I didn't like. Nor would I be mindful of their situation before asking for it back if I disliked them.

Probably because in most friendships neither party would behave like this! Ie borrower would buy new BBQ or send money immediately if she actually valued the friendship, and if you like you’re friend why can’t you have a chat instead of asking a load of strangers 🤷‍♀️

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 06/04/2024 09:51

She really should replace it, however it sounds like she has decided that isn't going to happen.
You may well have to 'write it off', unless you want to go down the small claims route, never lend her anything again, and also consider the fact that she isn't really a friend or she would have returned/replaced/gave you the money to replace.

MrsRaspberry · 06/04/2024 09:50

She's not lost it she's sold it or kept it a £300 BBQ isn't small enough to lose unless it was left out and someone stole it

Mumofoneandone · 06/04/2024 09:48

Small claims court...........

brocollilover · 06/04/2024 09:39

user1492757084 · 06/04/2024 00:56

Try something different.
Look up shops that stock the similar BBQ with the same brand.
Take down addresses and prices and visit the BBQ Thief.

Sit down and show her where you both will be going to replace the BBQ. Plan a shopping trip in your car with her on a date that suits, within the next two weeks.

Go shopping. Buy her a coffee but watch her buy you a BBQ, or at least two thirds of one.

Next time you lend a BBQ, ask for it to be returned, cleaned, the following day.

seriously?

Walkaround · 06/04/2024 09:32

Just ask for your money back, with or without interest and give her a deadline. Obviously, it’s seriously bad behaviour to have “lost” your bbq, but it was silly to have expected her to store your bbq for you until you needed it back, you should have got it back straight away. It’s also silly to expect her to pay full price for an equivalent bbq that you got in a sale. And it’s silly to ask her to buy you a new bbq, rather than give you the cash to get on and buy one yourself. As for letting this go on for 5 years, that’s a ridiculously long time for this to be going on for. You need to decide whether she is a selfish, self-centred friend, or no friend at all.

brocollilover · 06/04/2024 09:30

Goldensunnydays81 · 05/04/2024 19:33

I would invite her and her family over for dinner and then just present them with some raw sausages and burgers in a bun saying that you were doing a bbq for them but as there was nothing for you to cook it on this is what they were having.
Not to be petty or anything 🤣🤣

and then you get suggestions like this 🙄

brocollilover · 06/04/2024 09:29

HowToSaveAWife · 05/04/2024 19:48

She "lost" your BBQ SIX years ago, you've sent annual fruitless texts for a replacement but you're still "friends"?!

How very fucking odd.

yep

and add in fact that for last 6 years the op has been asking her neighbour to trundle along her bbq to the OP’s!

saveforthat · 06/04/2024 09:26

SevenSeasOfRhye · 04/04/2024 11:05

I think the ship has sailed, OP. You should have pursued it when she first said she'd lost it.

This. Never mind she was pregnant, short of money etc. There is no way you can lose a BBQ. She has probably sold it/given it away. Your mistake was letting this farce go on so long.

WayTooBigForYourBoots · 06/04/2024 09:24

You need to let it go. She tried to give it you back right away but you told her not to. Put it down to experience and next time you lend something out then accept it back when it’s being returned to you.

McrWife · 06/04/2024 09:20

Can’t you just ask for the £150 back that’s a lot easier , no faffing around with links just a bank transfer from her

CleaningAngel · 06/04/2024 09:07

Speak to her husband sbout it, explain the situation, I'd hazard a guess he knows none of the back story!!
But I wouldn't let it go either, just on principle and the cheek of her.
To me it wouldn't be about the barb b q as such, it would be the blatant lie that she 'lost it' htaf do u lose a bar b q ?
Did a huge sink hole in the garden take it away? I think she broke it and skipped it

Domesticatedstillalittleferral · 06/04/2024 09:01

YorkshireRose80 · 04/04/2024 19:25

I haven't sent one message a year, I've sent many. Sometimes she'd reply with some links to some crappy small BBQs for two people, asking if any suited. I replied saying not really, I need a like for like replacement, one that would cook more than two sausages. She says she'll look for more and then go quiet again.

I'd message her again, she's reply saying she'd got distracted with baby and would look when she got a moment.

I did said some links of my own and was told she'd take a look and speak to her partner as he'd have to collect it. Then go quiet again.

It's just when the the clocks go forward, it always reminds me to ask her again. 😅🙈

I saw her face to face a couple of weeks ago , bumped into her on a night out, but she was shit faced and wouldn't have remembered anything we discussed, so I left it.

This would have been the chance to actually find out what happened to it. If she was that drunk she would have probably let slip. I reckon she still has it and uses it every summer.

LAMPS1 · 06/04/2024 08:37

I really am intrigued about your active friendship with her, with this hanging over you. How does that work.

It must be embarrassing to have to keep asking - and for her to keep hoping you will drop it, whilst at the same time, still being friends and still doing friends stuff together.

It’s become like an annual game to her. You ask. She says yes I will. She conveniently forgets. So you conveniently forget. The clocks go forward. You ask again. And round and round you go for six years ! No wonder she doesn’t take your request seriously, it’s a farce.

I think you can’t expect an actual like for like bbq replacement now. It’s too late. They probably don’t make them like that any more.
But you can expect the £150 cash instead.

So this time OP, if you are still really determined to right this wrong done to you, you need to make it the final time of asking.
Message her with your bank details and TELL her you expect £150 in your account by the end of the week, …..no more going round in circles and being fobbed off, do it right now please, no excuses, then we can get on with enjoying our very solid friendship without this embarrassment hanging over us.