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To think they should still replace it...

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YorkshireRose80 · 04/04/2024 10:47

TLDR:
Friend borrowed expensive item six years ago, lost it and not replaced it despite frequent requests asking for it to be replaced.

Long version:
Six years ago, I bought a £300 fancy BBQ in a sale for £150, I didn't have a suitable garden for it at the time, but it was a bargain so I bought it and stored it away.

Six months later, my friend was asking around to see if anyone had a BBQ she could borrow for her mum's birthday party which friend was hosting. Mine wasn't being used, so I happily lent it to her. She used it and thanked me and said she'd drop it back at some point. As I still didn't have a suitable garden, I said there was no immediate rush.

The following summer, I had a suitable garden and wanted to have a BBQ, but recalled my mate hadn't returned it. I asked her to return it and she apologised for not doing so sooner, but later messaged to say that she's really sorry, she's looked and not been able to find it. Said she must have lost it!

Not quite sure how you can lose a fucking BBQ. I lent it to her unopened, in its box, it weighed a lot and was big and bulky.

I was quite upset, as I'd never even got to use it, but I didn't go off at her as she was pregnant with her first child and she'd had a couple of scares. So, I asked if she could have another look for it and get back to me.

Anyway, long story short, she couldn't find it. I awaited her message to say she'd replace it, but it never came. Her DD was then born and I let it go for a while as she was on mat leave and money was tight. But when she was back working, I asked her outright to replace it and she said she would, but it never materialised.

So, every spring for the past five years I have asked her again if she could please replace my BBQ. She says she will, but doesn't.

I know it's only a BBQ, but it's not something I'd usually be able to afford for the original price and I've held off buying a cheap one, hoping friend will come through with replacement.

Clocks have now gone forward and it's almost time for my annual request for my BBQ! 😅 My mum said I should let it go, but my DH agrees with me and said I should persist for a replacement.

If I lost something I borrowed, expensive or not, I'd replace it straight away.

My friend is doing well for herself and recently got a brand new car, her DD and DS have lovely clothes and lots of tech, so money doesn't seem to be the reason. And if it was, I'd be open to her paying for it in installments.

Soooo....

YABU - Suck it up buttercup, it's gone, get over it.
YANBU - She needs to replace it, regardless of how much time as passed. It's the principle of the matter.

OP posts:
Jeannie88 · 06/04/2024 19:37

Unfortunate lesson learnt, don't lend to friends who aren't your best trustworthy friends. X

Londonrach1 · 06/04/2024 19:36

She either returns the BBQ or £150..

Theroadnottravelled · 06/04/2024 19:35

I feel for you OP. You’re not confrontational. But this woman is not your friend. I borrowed an expensive ski jacket from my neighbour (and friend) and had it dry cleaned and returned within a week. That’s normal behaviour. You’ll have to write this off and learn from it. She won’t be guilt tripped after so long. Can you afford to replace it? I hope so. People can be awful but try to hold your head high, put her in the bin and concentrate on your good friends.

BirthdayRainbow · 06/04/2024 19:24

Jumpers4goalposts · 06/04/2024 18:41

Invite her around yours for a BBQ, and once accepted tell her your provide the food and she can replace the BBQ, send her one direct link to the one that you want that is worth the £150 you paid and highlight it can be delivered directly to yours if easier.

This wouldn't work.

JintyMcG1422 · 06/04/2024 19:15

Why don’t you just ask her outright if she has any intention of replacing it. Then you will know exactly where you stand, although after all this time I think it’s obvious she’s not going to. I agree it’s poor behaviour but you’ve let her get away with it for too long tbh.

rwalker · 06/04/2024 19:06

After 6 years and numerous attempts you would of had it or a replacement back by now so your never going to get anything

so suck it up and decide if it’s worth ending the friendship over

Maia77 · 06/04/2024 18:49

It's been years now, I don't know why you're still hoping it'll happen. She's obviously not going to do it, probably because she doesn't really care, doesn't respect you and she can get away with it. Why are you still friends with her?

Popcorn42 · 06/04/2024 18:47

Sorry but she's treating you like an absolute mug....thinking you believe that she lost a BBQ!!
Id go round and put her right on the spot..none of these messages as messages are easy to ignore or wriggle out of!

Go round and say listen I need this BBQ I'm in no position to buy another one.... So do u want to transfer me the money as I'm on my way out now so I'll buy one if you just transfer the money..I've waited long enough.

She will have no choice but to just do it or tell you outright no....In which case youll know your never getting reimbursed and I'd tell her exactly what I thought of her how disgusting it is to treat a friend that way & you consider your friendship over....not because of the BBQ because of the way she's treated you& took you for a fool!

Middleagedspreadisreal · 06/04/2024 18:43

Why is she still your friend?

Jumpers4goalposts · 06/04/2024 18:41

Invite her around yours for a BBQ, and once accepted tell her your provide the food and she can replace the BBQ, send her one direct link to the one that you want that is worth the £150 you paid and highlight it can be delivered directly to yours if easier.

WimbyAce · 06/04/2024 18:36

I would struggle to still be friends with her tbh.

lemming40 · 06/04/2024 18:35

Write it off. Don't lend her anything again.

dreadisabaddog · 06/04/2024 18:35

I can’t vote. You’re right to be pissed off still and I understand why you didn’t over challenge at the time but I think you need to accept she’s lent it to someone else/ sold it now and it’s up to you to decide whether you can forgive this and keep your friendship or not. And never lend anything you would be upset not to get back because not all people are good

TweedleDeeTweedleDumbledore · 06/04/2024 18:27

You know she sold it. I would give her one last chance with a hard deadline: "I'm having family over on _ and we are planning to grill. Please return or replace my grill by _ (prior weekend date). Alternatively, if you just want to pay me _ (the money you spent on it which will now get you a much cheaper grill) that is fine. I really can not wait any longer. Thanks in advance." Give her a month. If she doesn't come up with a grill YET AGAIN then you know she has no intention of replacing it ... SO. It will then be up to you to 1) forgive & forget & buy a new grill (and dump her as a friend forever), or 2) take her to court (and dump her as a friend forever). No one would blame you either way - it's more about what you can live with. Either way, with her buying new cars and clothing etc while you and a neighbor trundle a different grill around is absurd.

btw - you state above that you like this lady, but I would watch your back. This lady is NOT a nice person - she's a user.

Milliemoo6 · 06/04/2024 18:22

I'd arrange to meet up with her and once you're together say can we please buy this bloody bbq now? I'd be really pissed off too, and find it hard to let it go. We've got family who always borrow stuff and return it either broken or with parts missing and it's just plain rude.

ScholesPanda · 06/04/2024 18:20

YANBU. But I bet she never replaces it.

Livelovebehappy · 06/04/2024 18:08

Tbh I think you made a mistake lending it to her saying you were in no rush for it back, and as time went on she used it many times, probably all crapped up, and kind of assumed it was now hers as you hadnt followed up for a few months. If you lend something for an event, always ask for it’s return immediately after. I did this with a book (a lot smaller and inexpensive I know) I hadn’t read it myself yet but loaned it to a family member when they were recuperating from an op. A year down the line when going on holiday, I asked for it back. She then claimed she hadnt borrowed it from me and that she’d actually bought it herself, but would loan it me if I wanted! Probably with time she did actually think she had bought it. ! Obviously the book only cost a few pounds so I just let it go, but it still bugs me sometimes when I visit and it’s there on the bookcase…..

CatA27 · 06/04/2024 18:05

You aren't being unreasonable but I think its time to let it go and cut her off, 5 years is a long time to go without a bbq 😞

Sj07 · 06/04/2024 17:54

I think you just need to really lay it out..

Hi friend. I've already asked this a couple of times, and despite your assurances that you'll replace it you haven't. So can you just transfer me the money for that bbq I leant you. I've tried to be patient and reasonable, I didn't make a big deal of it when you were on mat leave with a young baby but it would seem your back at work and doing pretty well so I think replacing the item you borrowed from me and then lost is well overdue. My details are....

Mumoftwins78 · 06/04/2024 17:53

pictoosh · 04/04/2024 10:56

Your imagination is running free there. Bit random.

OP I'm not sure. I'd want to ask again.

Why don't you buy a new one and bill her £100 towards it?

The BBQ was £300 worth on sale for £150 so definitely wouldn't be happy with £100

Redcarsontv · 06/04/2024 17:41

I haven’t voted. IMO you are not BU but you’ve got to let it go (and possibly with the friendship too).

azlazee1 · 06/04/2024 17:33

She's never going to replace it - let it go. Also let her go because this woman is not your friend.

brocollilover · 06/04/2024 17:25

WildBear · 06/04/2024 12:57

Is she on SM? Put up a post for EVERYONE to see late at night when she's probably gone to bed and so can't remove it straight away ...

I lent you a BBQ 6 years ago. It was £150, brand new and still it's box. You've never returned it and every summer you fob me off when I ask you to replace it because you say you cant find it. You need to now give me the cash and I'll go and sort it's replacement.

Maybe send that to her first and put on SM if she doesn't send the money within a week

@WildBear do you honestly think that SM is the way to go?!

Engagebrain · 06/04/2024 17:24

I'd be furious! Tell her you want it replacing asap and if she doesn't I would cut her off.

brocollilover · 06/04/2024 17:20

WildBear · 06/04/2024 12:57

Is she on SM? Put up a post for EVERYONE to see late at night when she's probably gone to bed and so can't remove it straight away ...

I lent you a BBQ 6 years ago. It was £150, brand new and still it's box. You've never returned it and every summer you fob me off when I ask you to replace it because you say you cant find it. You need to now give me the cash and I'll go and sort it's replacement.

Maybe send that to her first and put on SM if she doesn't send the money within a week

if someone posted this, i would have to read and then reread to make sure i had read that this person was posting about something 6 YEARS ago!! and then id probably chuckle to myself at the bizarre post