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PepsiMaxx0 · 04/04/2024 10:15

I have a clean driving license. Driving for over 40 years with no incidents. Like many others I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....
I was travelling back from Manchester airport on the m62 during the early hours of this morning. Almost empty motorway. Doing about 80mph average I would say. Occasionally crept to 85. I noticed a camera flash on the gantry. No limits were lit up. I assumed it was from the other side and carried on. Several miles later it did it again and yes for a 3rd time which is when I thought this is too much of a coincidence it must be me! I've just woken and have that sick feeling. The only defence I can offer is motorway was empty, it was between 4 - 5 am this happened and I do not think I was driving dangerously. I just wanted to get home to bed after a late night flight. What will be the penalty for this?

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Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 11:47

I assume you lot go on other threads about legal matters and just post random made up guesses there too.

You have just described most threads on MN

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 11:46

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 11:22

I haven't said anything about hitting a child in a 20 or 30. Maybe you're reading too fast.

So you were posting about the chances of a child dying after being hit on a motorway?

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 11:22

Jovacknockowitch · 04/04/2024 22:19

You were being reductive. This thread is about breaking the national speed limit on a motorway so discussions about hitting a child in a 20 or 30 limit don’t have any relevance.

I haven't said anything about hitting a child in a 20 or 30. Maybe you're reading too fast.

GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 11:08

Iwasafool · 05/04/2024 11:04

I'm so glad you've passed that on. I'm going to cancel the direct debits now and go on a shipping spree.

Happy to help, it's important information like this is shared with the masses.

ChesterDrawz · 05/04/2024 11:08

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 05/04/2024 10:50

What you said re "three times."
I've posted before and felt 9 or 12 points but no ban.
However, once speeding same hour, foolishness or lack of awareness, 2nd time, total disregard of your surrounding, 3r time could potentially be careless driving by some magistrates,

3 times, same night, same road. When driving you are supposed to be driving with 'due care and attention' - the magistrates will consider that but also how important the driving is to OP in their day to day living - ie is it essential etc

Loving the "I'm guessing" and "felt" with regard to points applicable. It doesn't work via alignment of stars, tarot cards or a lottery. Someone posted up thread a table of exactly what's applicable.

And then there's this: "could potentially be careless driving by some magistrates"

That is so far from factual that it's bizarre.

  1. Magistrates don't decide what the offence is.
  2. 3 x minor excess speeding offences - via fixed camera, no less, so not witnessed poor driving - would never, ever be classified as anything but 'minor speeding' offences by the people who do decide what the offence is.
  3. OP won't be going anywhere near a court of any type.

I assume you lot go on other threads about legal matters and just post random made up guesses there too.

Iwasafool · 05/04/2024 11:04

GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 11:01

But someone on an internet forum told me that it's not mandatory to pay bills and you get a free allowance of tolerance on meter readings meaning £100 is instantly written off by providers. Are you telling me this isn't true?

I'm so glad you've passed that on. I'm going to cancel the direct debits now and go on a shipping spree.

GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 11:01

GasPanic · 05/04/2024 11:00

You can do that anytime you want.

Just be prepared for the consequences.

But someone on an internet forum told me that it's not mandatory to pay bills and you get a free allowance of tolerance on meter readings meaning £100 is instantly written off by providers. Are you telling me this isn't true?

GasPanic · 05/04/2024 11:00

GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 10:55

I'd quite like to ignore the law that means I have to pay my bills please.

You can do that anytime you want.

Just be prepared for the consequences.

GoingJacobsandRitz · 05/04/2024 10:55

LakieLady · 05/04/2024 10:07

I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....

This is an interesting approach. What other laws do you disregard after giving them due consideration?

I'd quite like to ignore the law that means I have to pay my bills please.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 05/04/2024 10:50

CanaryMary · 05/04/2024 07:27

Three times!!!! The first should have made you slow and think!!
I am guessing 9 points and a fine however they don’t all have film in so you may get lucky but you need to realise that speed control is constant no matter the time of day or whether you are the only car or not!

What you said re "three times."
I've posted before and felt 9 or 12 points but no ban.
However, once speeding same hour, foolishness or lack of awareness, 2nd time, total disregard of your surrounding, 3r time could potentially be careless driving by some magistrates,

3 times, same night, same road. When driving you are supposed to be driving with 'due care and attention' - the magistrates will consider that but also how important the driving is to OP in their day to day living - ie is it essential etc

BobnLen · 05/04/2024 10:37

A lot of people seem to disregard facts on a speeding thread

GasPanic · 05/04/2024 10:34

LakieLady · 05/04/2024 10:07

I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....

This is an interesting approach. What other laws do you disregard after giving them due consideration?

Lots of people disregard laws if they don't agree with them.

In fact it is one of the ways governments get feedback that what they have done is unpopular and needs further thought.

Plenty of people disregarded the poll tax for example.

LakieLady · 05/04/2024 10:07

I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....

This is an interesting approach. What other laws do you disregard after giving them due consideration?

Shade17 · 05/04/2024 09:54

You're not really 'cruising' at 150mph are you. It's very, very fast and you'd have to be hyper-aware of everything going on around you. Hardly a relaxing driving experience.

’Cruising’ as in sat at a constant speed rather than chilling out with one elbow hanging out the window. Absolute concentration and hyper vigilance required.

Willyoujustbequiet · 05/04/2024 09:26

SoupDragon · 04/04/2024 22:02

But not illegal.

Given that it's twice the German advisory limit its not just selfish it's beyond ignorant.

JeysusH · 05/04/2024 09:18

Shade17 · 05/04/2024 09:06

Of course they mean 160mph! It’s always amusing when you’re cruising at 150mph and someone comes up behind you, first time that ever happened to me I was like WTF!? I have managed the magical double-ton in Germany though (and I mean mph)

You're not really 'cruising' at 150mph are you. It's very, very fast and you'd have to be hyper-aware of everything going on around you. Hardly a relaxing driving experience.

These threads always attract posters that seem to think they are extremely cool and the best fucking drivers ever.

They actually, sound like a bunch of teens bragging about taking drugs.

Not cool. At all.

Shade17 · 05/04/2024 09:06

BusyMummy001 · 04/04/2024 22:19

Could they have muddled km with miles? 160km/h (Germany uses km not miles) = @ 100m/hr?

Of course they mean 160mph! It’s always amusing when you’re cruising at 150mph and someone comes up behind you, first time that ever happened to me I was like WTF!? I have managed the magical double-ton in Germany though (and I mean mph)

Calamitousness · 05/04/2024 08:14

Exactly @teaandtoastwithmarmite they legally have to write within 14 days. The fact you didn’t receive/ignored previous correspondence is neither here nor there. It’s automated and will have been sent. They hold you accountable for checking your mail. If you genuinely didn’t receive the letter then you could have gone to court and defended and not received points etc. but you would have needed to have some evidence along the lines of postal disarray from po to support your claims. If they are the only mail you didn’t receive then it’s more likely your fault and you mislaid/didn’t open the mail.

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 08:09

ConsuelaHammock · 04/04/2024 22:56

Not in a 30mph zone! The areas where children are more likely to run out. So the outskirts of towns and cities etc.

This thread is about driving on a motorway.

SofiaSoFar · 05/04/2024 08:08

goldenretrievermum5 · 04/04/2024 17:05

I know, I’m purposefully ignoring it - I’m glad that both the barrister and you believe that you’re above the law. 1mph over is still 1mph over. His job doesn’t mean that he’s not a speeding tosser as well.

Assume you were pissed when you wrote this (hopefully not driving, if so).

Where does anything I've written say I think I'm above the law??? I have never even mentioned personally breaking the speed limit.

And as for the barrister - calling him "a speeding tosser"??? How do you know he even drives?!

How incredibly arrogant.

BobnLen · 05/04/2024 07:32

OP has a clean licence so first offence is likely to be a course if it falls within the criteria.

CanaryMary · 05/04/2024 07:27

Three times!!!! The first should have made you slow and think!!
I am guessing 9 points and a fine however they don’t all have film in so you may get lucky but you need to realise that speed control is constant no matter the time of day or whether you are the only car or not!

BobnLen · 05/04/2024 07:23

Someone did a FOI about the speed cameras and many of the old fixed ones are not working as it costs too much to upgrade them, they still stand there though, probably as a deterrent, all 8 were inactive in our county, its quite easy to find online. So they don't all work now.

MigGirl · 04/04/2024 23:46

PepsiMaxx0 · 04/04/2024 10:32

I think there was speed limit restrictions on the other carriageway the first time (set to 50) so I assumed it was a reflection. I didn't know cameras worked on smart motorways unless they were actively lit up with a lowered limit on.....

The cameras work all the time. I do occasionally do 80mph on the motorway (but most cars speedos are set high and I know my car is only doing about 76mph at that point, each car is different so you would have to work out your own cars set point). I don't however ever speed on a road with cameras, no matter what the cameras are. It used to be that sometimes they weren't on (or originally had film in). Now however they are all digital and can be set remotely, so speeding wherever there are cameras is just asking for a fine.

Idideridest · 04/04/2024 23:36

goldenretrievermum5 · 04/04/2024 22:19

Inflation exists, yes but so does the year on year rise on the amount of claims being processed

Yes, COVID and a war in Eastern Europe are mere trifles compared to a couple of fender benders in Tesco car park.