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PepsiMaxx0 · 04/04/2024 10:15

I have a clean driving license. Driving for over 40 years with no incidents. Like many others I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....
I was travelling back from Manchester airport on the m62 during the early hours of this morning. Almost empty motorway. Doing about 80mph average I would say. Occasionally crept to 85. I noticed a camera flash on the gantry. No limits were lit up. I assumed it was from the other side and carried on. Several miles later it did it again and yes for a 3rd time which is when I thought this is too much of a coincidence it must be me! I've just woken and have that sick feeling. The only defence I can offer is motorway was empty, it was between 4 - 5 am this happened and I do not think I was driving dangerously. I just wanted to get home to bed after a late night flight. What will be the penalty for this?

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SoupDragon · 05/04/2024 22:46

Chrissyjr · 05/04/2024 22:26

Sometimes it just takes a picture to show how busy the motorway is. Doesn’t mean it was flashing you because you were going too fast.

There are other traffic cameras to monitor traffic. They don't flash.

Chrissyjr · 05/04/2024 22:26

Sometimes it just takes a picture to show how busy the motorway is. Doesn’t mean it was flashing you because you were going too fast.

BrendaSmall · 05/04/2024 22:17

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 04/04/2024 10:30

Maximum is 9 points, however if you were caught 3 times you could get a big fine and they could consider taking your licence.

Speeding kills, it doesn't matter if you wanted to get back to bed. One mistake and you could of killed someone. Selfish selfish selfish!

Exactly!
it’s a shame that it’s only a fine and lose their license, should be imprisonment as well
obv didn’t learn from the first camera, instead continued to drive over the speed limit and putting other lives at risk

AnnieSnap · 05/04/2024 22:10

You’ll be fine. It will either be points on your licence, or if it’s your first offence in 2 years, maybe a speed awareness course. As for the poster who said “speed kills”, 85mph doesn’t on an almost empty motorway in the early hours of the morning 🙄

toni6994 · 05/04/2024 21:51

I know exactly what stretch of road you’re talking about, they’re definitely speed cameras. You learn exactly where they are when you live in Manchester because there’s loads in a few mile stretch 😂

Your excuse is poor and is never going to stand up in any legal capacity, your speeding was hardly going to get you home much faster was it. You’re up shit creek without a paddle if you’ve been caught doing 85 in a 50 zone

Suck it up and be grateful you’ve got away with 40 years of speeding thus far 🤷🏼‍♀️

To be terrified I'll lose my license
Teapot1980 · 05/04/2024 21:45

Here is my advice OP:

  1. Be more careful in the future. It is what it is, so take the points/fine. It seems unlikely you will lose your licence.
  2. If you do anything else in the future that evens hints of a mistake or wrong-doing, DO NOT post it on MN, where a bunch of self-righteous pricks are lying in wait to shoot you down in flames. They have clearly NEVER once broken the speed limit, or made any other thoughtless mistake in their whole lives! They hope you lose your licence; I hope people judge them as harshly as they judge others.
UnicornMamma · 05/04/2024 21:25

At the end of it you were doing 15mph OVER the limit and that's not okay.

As someone who has been smacked into by a speeding driver, no excuse is acceptable

D14N3 · 05/04/2024 21:24

You will more than likely be offered a speed awareness course, this is the best option. You won't receive a fine or points, but if you get caught speeding again you will instantly be given a fine and points. The course is about 2½ - 3 hours long.

Mummytotheboy · 05/04/2024 21:19

It's the m62 not the autobahn. It worries me that in over 40 years of driving you do not know the maximum speed limit on uk motorways. Its 70mph BTW. It doesn't increase because the road is quiet, it's still 70mph. If you've been clocked doing 85 I wouldn't think you'd get banned they might just deal with it by fpn but I don't think you will get the option of paying for the course instead of the points. Please stick to the speed limits and remember its a limit not a target

Moanyoldmoan · 05/04/2024 21:08

I really wouldn’t tell the judge it was deliberate. I had 13 points and had to go to court, long story short I had never had a speeding ticket, had a mental breakdown and got 5 in a year. The judge took into account rural living, children, needing a licence for my job and getting medical help. He gave me a fine. I’ve not had one since and I’m clear now

DonnaBanana · 05/04/2024 19:19

LakieLady · 05/04/2024 10:07

I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....

This is an interesting approach. What other laws do you disregard after giving them due consideration?

Giving a friend some left over migraine pills I was prescribed, crossing on a red if there’s no traffic, I even used a VPN to watch iplayer from Spain once. People break laws all the time after consideration. You take the risk too of course, if you can’t do the time then don’t come at the crime.

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 18:50

BrokenWing · 05/04/2024 16:27

So you are being flippant, know the answer but minimising and dismissing it instead.

Speeding is a significant aggravating factor which kills people. All drivers (including professional) are not capable of fully mitigating the impact of speeding in the event of an accident. It might not be speeding that causes the accident, but it is speeding that means the tyre blowout cannot be controlled, losing concentration for a second means you cannot react in time, the accident that would injure someone instead kills, the safety measures in your car aren't effective due to the excessive forces, the safety barriers don't prevent your car from crossing the carriageway to oncoming traffic, emergency services have to deal with your decapitated body.

It is still offensive to be pedantic to try make a minor and trifling point when a short message that is clear to all is most effective. Speeding does kill.

Thanks for your input.

Mama2many73 · 05/04/2024 18:46

DappledThings · 04/04/2024 10:37

You thought speed cameras only work on motorways if there is a temporary speed limit bellow the normal 70? But if it's NSL as usual there are no cameras in use? Really?

Yeah!? What?! Couldn't quite grasp that people think this!

SoupDragon · 05/04/2024 18:41

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 17:05

How fast is a buttered otter? Grin

Hopefully less than 70mph on a motorway.

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 17:06

ChesterDrawz · 05/04/2024 15:28

You could have just clicked the 'thanks' icon at the bottom of their diatribe.

Diatribe? Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not as bitter or excitable as you seem to have inferred.

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 17:05

FasterthanaButteredOtter · 05/04/2024 12:51

Can I just give @ShowOfHands a massive round of applause for her post at 12.25 yesterday!!

So true. The "I'm so good at driving , I'm special" idiots piss me off no end.

How fast is a buttered otter? Grin

BrokenWing · 05/04/2024 16:27

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 16:10

Speeding isn't always the cause, or the sole cause. Most crashes are caused by crap driving, sometimes along with inappropriate speed. If speeding alone caused crashes the Police wouldn't be allowed to speed. I realise it may seem a nitpicking point, but it is valid.

So you are being flippant, know the answer but minimising and dismissing it instead.

Speeding is a significant aggravating factor which kills people. All drivers (including professional) are not capable of fully mitigating the impact of speeding in the event of an accident. It might not be speeding that causes the accident, but it is speeding that means the tyre blowout cannot be controlled, losing concentration for a second means you cannot react in time, the accident that would injure someone instead kills, the safety measures in your car aren't effective due to the excessive forces, the safety barriers don't prevent your car from crossing the carriageway to oncoming traffic, emergency services have to deal with your decapitated body.

It is still offensive to be pedantic to try make a minor and trifling point when a short message that is clear to all is most effective. Speeding does kill.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 05/04/2024 16:21

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I've never said that to anyone before but I felt it all along. First time, then the second, then the third and all along they were worried by the first flash

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 05/04/2024 16:19

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 11:46

So you were posting about the chances of a child dying after being hit on a motorway?

Sadly, children do die on motorways due to excessive and inappropriate speeding during poor weather

ZetuianRose · 05/04/2024 16:11

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Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 16:10

BrokenWing · 05/04/2024 16:00

Very simply if you do not know the answer to that you shouldn't be on the road.

If you do know the answer and are being flippant it is offensive to anyone who has lost of loved one or had live changing injuries in accidents where speeding was involved.

Perhaps go on a speed awareness course to educate yourself.

Speeding isn't always the cause, or the sole cause. Most crashes are caused by crap driving, sometimes along with inappropriate speed. If speeding alone caused crashes the Police wouldn't be allowed to speed. I realise it may seem a nitpicking point, but it is valid.

BrokenWing · 05/04/2024 16:00

Jovacknockowitch · 04/04/2024 16:49

How does speed cause these accidents exactly?

Very simply if you do not know the answer to that you shouldn't be on the road.

If you do know the answer and are being flippant it is offensive to anyone who has lost of loved one or had live changing injuries in accidents where speeding was involved.

Perhaps go on a speed awareness course to educate yourself.

ChesterDrawz · 05/04/2024 15:28

FasterthanaButteredOtter · 05/04/2024 12:51

Can I just give @ShowOfHands a massive round of applause for her post at 12.25 yesterday!!

So true. The "I'm so good at driving , I'm special" idiots piss me off no end.

You could have just clicked the 'thanks' icon at the bottom of their diatribe.

FasterthanaButteredOtter · 05/04/2024 12:51

Can I just give @ShowOfHands a massive round of applause for her post at 12.25 yesterday!!

So true. The "I'm so good at driving , I'm special" idiots piss me off no end.

ShowOfHands · 05/04/2024 11:56

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 11:46

So you were posting about the chances of a child dying after being hit on a motorway?

Nope. Still haven't posted anything about children being hit.