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PepsiMaxx0 · 04/04/2024 10:15

I have a clean driving license. Driving for over 40 years with no incidents. Like many others I sometimes go over the limit on motorways if I consider it safe to do so....
I was travelling back from Manchester airport on the m62 during the early hours of this morning. Almost empty motorway. Doing about 80mph average I would say. Occasionally crept to 85. I noticed a camera flash on the gantry. No limits were lit up. I assumed it was from the other side and carried on. Several miles later it did it again and yes for a 3rd time which is when I thought this is too much of a coincidence it must be me! I've just woken and have that sick feeling. The only defence I can offer is motorway was empty, it was between 4 - 5 am this happened and I do not think I was driving dangerously. I just wanted to get home to bed after a late night flight. What will be the penalty for this?

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SevenSeasOfRhye · 04/04/2024 11:58

squashyhat · 04/04/2024 10:21

Why didn't you slow down the first time you got flashed?

This - your behaviour is baffling, what did you expect would happen?

CagneyAndLazy · 04/04/2024 11:57

ACynicalDad · 04/04/2024 11:50

I very much hope that there was a fourth camera you didn't spot and you get 12 points and a ban; failing that 9 points on your license for the next three years might teach you to keep within the speed limit. They are there for a reason, I hope the fines are large too.

Wow, what a shitty post. You should change your name to "APuritanicalDad".

The fines will not be large because they're minor fixed penalties at those speeds.

It's spelled "licenCe".

JosieJones1987 · 04/04/2024 11:56

CagneyAndLazy · 04/04/2024 11:50

OP, your mistake is posting anything about speeding on MN.

There will be thousands of parents on here who are very distracted by having children in their cars, some sneaking a look at WhatsApp, some who only god knows how they ever passed their test.

But yet you're more dangerous than Putin because you exceeded the speed limit.

I'd give posting any further on this thread a hard swerve (pun intended).

Because speeding isn't big and it isn't clever. It's a selfish choice.

Tessisme · 04/04/2024 11:55

Maybe it's just me, but ramping up to 80mph isn't going to save a huge amount of time. A few minutes over a distance of 100 miles. And whether anyone thinks 70mph isn't fast enough for them is neither here nor there. It's the motorway speed limit in this country and 80-85mph is a deliberate breach as opposed to drifting over a bit. We don't live in France or Germany. If we start looking at whether other countries' laws are 'better' than ours, then maybe we can decide to own a gun - 'cos, ya know, Americans have them.

Mrsttcno1 · 04/04/2024 11:54

CagneyAndLazy · 04/04/2024 11:50

OP, your mistake is posting anything about speeding on MN.

There will be thousands of parents on here who are very distracted by having children in their cars, some sneaking a look at WhatsApp, some who only god knows how they ever passed their test.

But yet you're more dangerous than Putin because you exceeded the speed limit.

I'd give posting any further on this thread a hard swerve (pun intended).

Eee yes because speeding is SO cool !! The law is optional ! Driving 15mph OVER the legal speed limit and continuing to do so even when you think you’ve been caught by one speed camera because you are just truly that brilliant you believe you’re above the law is so safe ! And anyone who thinks abiding by the law is such a fun sucker x you’re so right

PickledPurplePickle · 04/04/2024 11:52

No excuse

ACynicalDad · 04/04/2024 11:50

I very much hope that there was a fourth camera you didn't spot and you get 12 points and a ban; failing that 9 points on your license for the next three years might teach you to keep within the speed limit. They are there for a reason, I hope the fines are large too.

CagneyAndLazy · 04/04/2024 11:50

OP, your mistake is posting anything about speeding on MN.

There will be thousands of parents on here who are very distracted by having children in their cars, some sneaking a look at WhatsApp, some who only god knows how they ever passed their test.

But yet you're more dangerous than Putin because you exceeded the speed limit.

I'd give posting any further on this thread a hard swerve (pun intended).

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:48

whyismysoupcold · 04/04/2024 11:46

I'd take someone driving sensibly at 85mph over somebody hogging the middle lane at 58mph any day of the week. Those are the dangerous drivers.

Hear hear. 👏

JosieJones1987 · 04/04/2024 11:47

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:38

Me at 85 on an empty motorway is a lot safer than the twats going 35-40 on a NSL dual carriageway bypass near me.

Neither of them are safe.

whyismysoupcold · 04/04/2024 11:46

I'd take someone driving sensibly at 85mph over somebody hogging the middle lane at 58mph any day of the week. Those are the dangerous drivers.

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:42

ManchesterLu · 04/04/2024 11:40

It's not up to YOU to decide what's safe. You probably won't lose your license, but fuck me, people like you shouldn't be on the roads.

I’ll take my chances. Ta.

(I’m on the road when very few others are. Risk couldn’t be lower.)

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:41

Seeline · 04/04/2024 11:38

So you should be well aware of the consequences of selfish idiots driving at high speeds.

The self-entitlement of some never ceases to amaze me.

They generally make mistakes. Speed isn’t dangerous on its own. It’s inappropriate speed that is. I don’t drive at inappropriate speeds. 85 on an empty, dry motorway when there is nobody else on it isn’t inappropriate.

I also have a race licence and excellent hand, eye, foot coordination. Some of us are just better drivers, I guess.

ManchesterLu · 04/04/2024 11:40

It's not up to YOU to decide what's safe. You probably won't lose your license, but fuck me, people like you shouldn't be on the roads.

Seeline · 04/04/2024 11:38

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:37

Meh. Odds are in my favour. Advanced driver quals (drove blue lights for a number of years), high awareness when driving. Have driven probably half a million miles in the UK without any incident ever.

So you should be well aware of the consequences of selfish idiots driving at high speeds.

The self-entitlement of some never ceases to amaze me.

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:38

Me at 85 on an empty motorway is a lot safer than the twats going 35-40 on a NSL dual carriageway bypass near me.

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:37

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 04/04/2024 11:30

@Itsaloadofbollocksbut not killed anyone.... yet. Until you do.

People like you ought to be banned from the roads. Gloating about speeding, wow what a decent human being. 🙄

Meh. Odds are in my favour. Advanced driver quals (drove blue lights for a number of years), high awareness when driving. Have driven probably half a million miles in the UK without any incident ever.

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:35

1offnamechange · 04/04/2024 11:29

I won't repeat what others have said
Tbh i will also admit to sometimes driving above the speed limit particularly on motorways in conditions like you've described.

But that's usually at something like 75 - 85mph is quite a bit over. Obviously still "wrong" though and if I got caught I'd just have to hold my hands up. I am a bit surprised that it took 3 flashes for you to even consider it might be you, despute the quietness of the road, which does tend to suggest perhaps you weren't driving at full concentration? Usually just seeing a camera or police car is enough to give me a "ooh watch out!" and slow down for the rest of the journey - which is the presumed intention as much as actually catching people?

I always try to remind myself of the comparatively little difference speeding makes to the overall time of the journey - i.e. if you were driving at 80mph for 60 miles you'd only actually get there 6 minutes earlier than if you were driving at 70 (45mins vs 51). Put like that, as keen as you were to get home, is it worth the danger/fine?

I drive a lot further than that. I can save an hour on a 300 mile trip.

Samlewis96 · 04/04/2024 11:34

JosieJones1987 · 04/04/2024 10:51

Hopefully you get banned. You knew what you were doing. You purposely did it.

Why would she get banned? The law won't ban her as the speeds not high enough and was a max of 3 times ( on same Rd) she was flashed. Get over your holier than thou shit. ( From someone with a clean license before you start)

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 04/04/2024 11:30

@Itsaloadofbollocksbut not killed anyone.... yet. Until you do.

People like you ought to be banned from the roads. Gloating about speeding, wow what a decent human being. 🙄

1offnamechange · 04/04/2024 11:29

I won't repeat what others have said
Tbh i will also admit to sometimes driving above the speed limit particularly on motorways in conditions like you've described.

But that's usually at something like 75 - 85mph is quite a bit over. Obviously still "wrong" though and if I got caught I'd just have to hold my hands up. I am a bit surprised that it took 3 flashes for you to even consider it might be you, despute the quietness of the road, which does tend to suggest perhaps you weren't driving at full concentration? Usually just seeing a camera or police car is enough to give me a "ooh watch out!" and slow down for the rest of the journey - which is the presumed intention as much as actually catching people?

I always try to remind myself of the comparatively little difference speeding makes to the overall time of the journey - i.e. if you were driving at 80mph for 60 miles you'd only actually get there 6 minutes earlier than if you were driving at 70 (45mins vs 51). Put like that, as keen as you were to get home, is it worth the danger/fine?

Willyoujustbequiet · 04/04/2024 11:28

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:20

Bollocks. I probably average 80+ on motorways and in 30 years have never had points, an accident or killed anyone.

I generally drive late at night when there is no other fucker on the road. Average 25000 miles a year.

Well hopefully they'll catch up with you soon.

Scalby · 04/04/2024 11:27

If you were consistently speeding, how on earth did you think you wouldn't be caught speeding? My car shows you where the cameras are with 600yds notice. The motorways are full of them. If your car has a limiter, it's a good idea you use it.

GasPanic · 04/04/2024 11:26

ShowOfHands · 04/04/2024 11:01

I have a rule never to go through those motorway gantry cameras more than 10 mph over the limit (either the full limit or what is displayed). So far I have never been fined

How many people are just making up their own rules? And apparently to satisfy their own need to avoid punishment rather than giving even a tiny shit about other people on the road, the law or the potential ramifications of their nonsense risk assessment.

I have a very nearly 17yr old and have told her repeatedly that the biggest challenge on the roads is the number of twats doing what the fuck they like.

Yep I pretty much made up this rule and am happy with my appraisal of what is safe and what isn't, and accept the fact that part of being a member of society means occasionally my opinion and the governments will differ and I may end up paying the consequences of that. I'll quite happily drive on a motorway at 80, but I won't ever drive round housing estates at 30 because I consider it to be too dangerous.

Governments make up rules too. In France the limit is 80 mph. in Germany in some places the speed you can travel at is unlimited. Speed limits vary the world over because conditions change and different countries have different ideas of risk and punishments they want to impose. I don't believe the UK government has any better motivations for setting speed limits at 70 than the German one has at setting them unlimited.

My judgement is that the most dangerous activity on motorways is driving too fast in conditions of poor visibility followed closely by driving too close to the car in front. Neither of those issues are fully addressed by the concept of an invariant speed limit, which just mitigates the outcome in the event an accident takes place. The concept that "I must be safe because I am traveling under the speed limit" to me is as invalid as the concept that "I must be unsafe because I am traveling over the speed limit". What is required to be safe is to actually always be thinking and learning from your driving experiences, understand what is dangerous and what isn't and take steps to mitigate that. Not blind adherence to rules.

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 04/04/2024 11:20

oprahwindsock · 04/04/2024 10:18

Hopefully you'll get points and a fine, maybe even a ban. Speeding kills.

Bollocks. I probably average 80+ on motorways and in 30 years have never had points, an accident or killed anyone.

I generally drive late at night when there is no other fucker on the road. Average 25000 miles a year.