Katie Price is a mess and seems beyond help?

Understood. But these are clearly simply nonsense justifications.

This isn't what I believe - it's what a magazine/online article says - not me!

I don't think the same either way, but you never know, she could have 'daddy issues'.

I remember reading that the stories about Kieran’s ‘sex addiction’ and shagging numerous nannies were fake (she apparently owed thousands in unpaid wages to one?) but were put out so she could get coverage.

Can you imagine the mentality of dining out on the press coverage talking about your children’s nanny (who she said the younger two were close to) shagging your husband in their bedrooms and making comments on her being ‘smelly’ if they were just for clicks and interviews.

I mean that is seriously fucked up.

One of the "but she's such a great mum" posters earlier commented on her kids appearing well-brought-up.
Leaving Harvey aside for obvious reasons, the fact that Junior and Princess come across as polite, humble and well-behaved is almost entirely due to them having lived full-time with Peter for many years and, before that, the amount of time and effort he put in with them. Katie is on record as saying that she likes her kids "to be feral."
The younger two, I won't comment on but I would suggest there are serious issues there, manifesting in different ways. The sooner they are back with their father, the better for both of them, in my opinion.

And, finally, I have no time for women who use their “sexuality” as a cover for nefarious activities. I would include Amber Heard, Meghan Markle, the Kardashian woman who-sold-her-sex-tape-to-be-famous and Katie price in that category. When they play the victim card and LYING on top, it is of course especially gross.

People are having a laugh saying she’s a great mum. The stream of men she’s introduced into her DCs lives, exposing her DC to the public, drug addiction, drunk driving, filthy house, financial mess all played out in the media. I imagine there’s much more gone on in private

^ this.

I have said this numerous times on this thread. Women are believed but when you have numerous different accounts straight from the horses mouth that change over the years over and over and over again it puts doubt in people's mind. If you were sat on a jury for the SA 'rape' could you honestly beyond a reasonable doubt say it happened? When there have been 4 or 5 different accounts from the victim, tv cameras there recording the aftermath, witnesses who were part of the robbery saying it didn't happen, the TV production company who will have viewed all of the unedited footage saying it didn't happen would you convict? Honestly? It gets more and more gruesome every time she tells the story. And this is in her own books and spoken interviews so you can't say the press lied or misinterpreted it. This is straight from her mouth.

Take today for example, I have just looked at her Insta. She says she is at the gym with the latest boyfriend. Next thing she is having more lip fillers in Essex, and her lip filler woman has a video on her Insta that says she is driving to KPs house to top up her lip filler. Which is the truth? Gym, Essex or home? All straight from her social media. She is a lying, cheating, abusive woman.

Yes I read the Dwight Yorke paid her mum to be Harvey’s carer. I assume that money stopped when he turned 18 (did he have another paid carer after her mum got ill?) hence why he went into residential care. There’s no way Price could have been his 24-7 carer, like most parents of disabled DC are, anyway as she was always off on holidays or with her new men. Yorke also wanted to have contact with Harvey when he was little but she made it impossible apparently (quite believable from the way she behaves). Not defending him but I don’t think that was all it seemed. Didn’t she also stop Peter Andre from seeing Harvey again after they split after he’d been in his life for many years and called him ‘Dad’.

Having a DS with disabilities on a lesser scale to Harvey’s, I’ve always been disgusted how she has used him as a project to keep the stories coming. The SM bullying wouldn’t have been able to happen if she hadn’t put him in the public eye, he was not protected at all and did not have the capacity to consent, and she completely threw him to the wolves just to make money for herself. She’s absolutely despicable IMO. Now he’s getting older, I hope someone steps in to legally restrain her from using him in this way. Should have been done when he was much younger. The nightclub thing was horrendous. If she really wanted to introduce him to a nightclub, she could have done it when she herself wasn’t being paid for a PA. I can’t imagine a young man with his disabilities would have asked to go, knowing what that entailed, especially with how distressed he gets.

People are having a laugh saying she’s a great mum. The stream of men she’s introduced into her DCs lives, exposing her DC to the public, drug addiction, drunk driving, filthy house, financial mess all played out in the media. I imagine there’s much more gone on in private.

As somebody who’s suffered significant childhood and adult trauma similar to what she says she has, without the massive cushion of the enormous wealth and family support she had, I find it disgustingly insulting to use that as an excuse for the way she is.

Absolutely no doubt that she is desperate to stay in the public eye and will do whatever it takes to do so. She needs a complete media blackout for the sake of her DC and the younger two taken off her for good. I can’t imagine what they are being exposed to.

”…. her dad running out on her mum and Katie at age 4 …”

What’s that got to do with the price of fish? I am sure there are many women who have uninvolved fathers who do not behave like KP! Sex revenge tapes, killing their pets including dogs and horses, drunk driving, part of the sex industry, constant lies, etc etc.

I don’t feel any specific hatred towards KP, she’s just an another low rent Kardashian type celebrity - but equally find the fawning love-in fans on this thread completely bizarre.

PS I once saw her sister on TV and she did seem completely normal by comparison. However… maybe it is the case of “follow the money !” Her mother got money for looking after her grandson, according to a pp. Maybe also her sister was part of the gravy train. So they may question “her choices”, but not too closely- ultimately are not going to upset the apple cart ?

How do you know this? Obviously I don't know her in real life but she always comes across as worried about Kate. I do stand by that Kate's family cannot help her if she doesn't want the help. It's the same for any addiction/mental health issues. Every time she had surgery, people like Pete would be telling her not to have it done but she went ahead any way. As for the sexual assaults, what happened to women being believed? She seems to suppress her feelings alot maybe she has blocked alot of the details (self preservation).

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That's interesting re KP's mum and her mum and Harvey and Dwight Yorke.

I do think Katie seems interesting, if not annoying but her kids must be (well I would be) so embarrassed by some of her antics, there's a well known sex tape of her shagging Dane Bowers and she never seems to stop re selling her stories to the papers, she must have some sort of contract with them.

I think she's really lost sight of who she is and what she is and believes her own hype. Anything she's tried to make a go of that she's good at (the horsey stuff) has flopped, so she has go to back on the band wagon of boyfriends, trying to get pregnant, cosmetic procedures and staying relevant. There must be some people who've paid to see her in panto, doing live interviews though but to be honest she just looks silly a lot now. Even the DM etc articles, you can tell (as with every other Z list) what it's going to be next for her, she's lost her allure and appeal to everyone but the real thickos of the general public.

"Her mum seems absolutely lovely"

Trust me, Amy Price is absolutely NOT lovely!

She has had massive trauma, recent events in the last few years has triggered her to have a breakdown and re visit those traumas

The sexual assaults are disputed and other than that she's inviting chaos into her own life.

Regarding South Africa: imagine the huge news story that a high profile British celebrity had been raped at gunpoint during a carjacking in South Africa. Whenever a British person is murdered abroad (remember Anni Dewani, killed on honeymoon in SA) it’s big news.

Yes, the carjacking happened, but she has since embellished it to include a shocking detail that involves her children.

She’s either got serious mental health issues that need addressing or she has no sense of right and wrong and will do anything for a bit of attention.

Her mum isn't 'dying" anymore than any of us are. She had a lung transplant some 16 months ago. Since then KP has stopped with the my mums dying and it's her last Xmas stories etc..... as she can't use that for press attention anymore.

Her Mum and Sister have enabled her behaviour for years and years to keep the gravy train afloat. Her Mum basically brought up Harvey on a decent wage paid by Dwight Yorke.

How any family can stand by and let her tell these lies in front of the children and neglect the children every time a new man comes on the scene is obscene. They should hang their heads in shame.

Regarding South Africa:

if she had been raped at gunpoint she would’ve immediately been admitted to hospital for a battery of tests for STIs (don’t forget HIV is rife in SA) and for evidence (DNA)
she would’ve been utterly traumatised and then flown home asap, not cage diving with sharks the next day & enjoying the rest of the trip.
Not only that, I saw a clip from her YouTube channel when she and her two youngest were watching Rupaul’s Drag Race UK. One of the queens was impersonating her, and made a joke about ‘my implants being held up by gunpoint in south africa’
KP was laughing along with the kids at this. If I’d been raped and it was being used as joke fodder on TV, I certainty wouldn’t be laughing.

She is t speaking to her mum I believe, so she can’t be that bothered.

I love how people judge when they aren't in their shoes. Her mum seems absolutely lovely, as does her sister. Kate has been in rehab, she also sees a therapist. Her mum actively tells her she doesn't agree with her choices. Kate is a a grown adult though, and she will do what she wants to do. She has had massive trauma, recent events in the last few years has triggered her to have a breakdown and re visit those traumas. What we are seeing is the aftermath of where she has hidden and buried it. On top of that her mum is dying, I am surprised she is still here if I'm honest. It's alot for someone to process.

Actually I think with Katie, she does lie as do a lot of the Z list celebs similar to her, because if their lives were boring as just popped to Sainsburys, picked up kids from school, did a photoshoot, no one would find it interesting would they? Then, if you were interested in her, either you believe her lies or you

Whereas if their lives are portrayed as glamourous (no Katie, you're not glamourous!) and with lots of drama, eg having another baby then everyone finds this interesting.

I googled her earlier today and saw pics of her when she was with someone and pregnant at her real dad, Ray Infield's wedding. She actually looked like a normal person trying to get to know her extended family through his side although a few of the wedding party were giving side eyes as to the paparazzi being there, but honestly, you'd just think she was any normal woman, going to her dad's wedding. Apparently her dad running out on her mum and Katie at age 4 and behaving badly ever since (her dad) has had the effect it has on Katie, to make her unstable. I'd believe that more than some embroidered sex case story when she was older - I heard she was sexually assaulted when she was a young teenager, not 7.

She reminds me of Britney, both went off the rails after being fucked over by a significant ex, Kerry Katona too. I don't think social media has been a net gain for humanity.

Would you rent your son a house around the corner with an unqualified teenage babysitter and an aggressive guard dog that had killed and harmed other pets because your boyfriend didn’t want him around ? Katie Price did because her boyfriend didn’t want Harvey staying at his house. Instead of staying with Harvey, she moved in with Carl and left Harvey with a carer. Does that really sound like someone who cares about her disabled son?
This information was from an interview she did with the sun, so straight from her mouth. She’s an appalling mum.

Why, because posters are redressing some of the misconceptions that Katie has allowed to stand over the years? Keeping quiet allows her to continue - not that a Mumsnet thread would stop her driving whilst disqualified. The courts can't seem able to so...

It's a useful trope to hide behind - that "the papers lie/print rubbish." Katie uses it all the time.
Sure, they get some details wrong, and I've seen that in articles about her, but she uses it to dismiss the whole thing.

More importantly nobody knows what really goes on behind closed doors. A lot of the media reports are utter rubbish yet people appear to believe everything written. It would be interesting to hear how her close family & friends feel about this vilified woman.

People do know as she's always on social media. We also know about her court cases. Someone with as many convictions as she has deserves to be vilified.

There's a thread on MN today from someone who is worried about losing her licence for speeding. When I read it earlier there wasn't one ounce of sympathy for her unlike KP. And before I'm jumped on, I'm not necessarily saying there should be, just comparing it to the sympathy KP from some on here.